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Green ‘drivel’ exposed. The godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria
Toronto Sun ^ | 6/23/2012 | Lorrie Goldstein

Posted on 06/23/2012 11:37:38 AM PDT by OnAMission

Two months ago, James Lovelock, the godfather of global warming, gave a startling interview to msnbc.com in which he acknowledged he had been unduly “alarmist” about climate change.

The implications were extraordinary.

Lovelock is a world-renowned scientist and environmentalist whose Gaia theory — that the Earth operates as a single, living organism — has had a profound impact on the development of global warming theory.

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1 posted on 06/23/2012 11:37:48 AM PDT by OnAMission
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To: OnAMission

There is a lot of money in the Global Warming business and powerful political interests supporting the theory. The man is taking a courageous stand going against that.


2 posted on 06/23/2012 11:46:24 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: OnAMission

This IDIOT doesn’t understand thermodynamics, nor the ebb & flow of solar cycles, and the ebb and flow of all the other cycles. The Earth cannot maintain its energy level on this planet without the warm nurishment from the Sun to keep us warm.

God has decided that our planet is worthy of cycles that keep us safe and warm, so that we can grow our own food, enjoy fresh water, and breathe the air that is washed by rain.


3 posted on 06/23/2012 11:50:56 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: OnAMission

The man decries environmentalism as a religion, but doesn’t realize that he carved its idol.


4 posted on 06/23/2012 12:02:02 PM PDT by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: OnAMission
Gaia theory — that the Earth operates as a single, living organism

If so, then humanity is part of that organism and anything we do is, by definition, "natural."

It drives me crazy that deep enviros claim that man is on the one hand just another animal, of no greater value than any other; and on the other an alien and evil presence on the planet, the enemy of the ecosystem and all other living things. The beliefs are not compatible, though of course this does not stop them from holding both at the same time.

I wish somebody would explain to me exactly why a beaver dam is "natural" and Hoover Dam is not.

5 posted on 06/23/2012 12:13:08 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Two books of”fiction’ that answer this perfectly are State of Fear by Michael Chrichton and Rainbow 6 by Tom Clancy.

Both were based on the core philosiphies of Deep Ecology and have proven to be pretty accurate (so far) as the greens grow more desperate.


6 posted on 06/23/2012 12:19:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: OnAMission
A New Age

Bless Ya All from Rio!

Jesus Goes Green for Rio summit

7 posted on 06/23/2012 12:19:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The Matrix, with humanity as a disease. According to Agent Smith, anyway.

For those who think this way, how should they deal with a disease?


8 posted on 06/23/2012 12:24:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“They” are environmentally correct wise and knowing. “We” are “A cancer on the face of the earth”.

I have had greens tell me to my face that ‘we’ should just die and then ‘they’ would be able to fix the earth and live in harmony with it.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 12:27:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: OnAMission

(This is a duplicate of another thread.)

Those who are Californians should be extremely concerned at the total reorientation of land, water, transportation, fish and wildlife, health and other laws around climate change and agenda 21.

Climate Plan SB375
SB 375 (the Sustainable Communities and Climate Protection Act of 2008)
http://www.pcl.org/projects/2011symposium/proceedings/GeneralPlans3.pdf

Transform’s SB375 Fact Sheet
http://www.pcl.org/projects/2011symposium/proceedings/GeneralPlans4.pdf

SCAG California’s Sustainable Communities and Climate
Protection Act (SB 375) Fact sheet
http://www.scag.ca.gov/sb375/pdfs/FS/gen-sb375-factsheet.pdf

AB 32 (the California Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006).
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/05-06/bill/asm/ab_0001-0050/ab_32_bill_20060927_chaptered.pdf

AB 857 ;
http://www.calcog.org/Meeting%2520Materials/ab%2520857.pdf

Analysis;
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/sgc/Land_Use_Planning.htm

The Opportunity of the Environmental Goals and Policy Report and AB 857: A State Vision of Sustainabile Development
http://calregions.urbaninsight.com/projects/enewsvIVi4.html

SB 391
http://www.scribd.com/doc/47142131/Untitled

(Analysis)
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/tpp/californiainterregionalblueprint/Documents/workshop_docs/SB_391.pdf

SB 732 Strategic Growth Council http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_0701-0750/sb_732_bill_20080930_chaptered.pdf

SGC
http://www.sgc.ca.gov/

CA Health in All Policies Task Force
http://www.sgc.ca.gov/hiap/

Water Plan Framework for Integrated Water Management and Sustainability
http://www.waterplan.water.ca.gov/docs/cwpu2013/cwpu2013-brochure-lettersize.pdf

California Department of Water Resources
Integrated Regional Water Management (IRWM)
Climate Change Document Clearinghouse
http://www.water.ca.gov/climatechange/docs/IRWM-ClimateChangeClearinghouse.pdf

DFG California Essential Habitat Connectivity Project: A Strategy for Conserving a Connected California
http://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=18366

CALTrans “Regional Blueprints” 2010
http://dot.ca.gov/hq/tpp/offices/orip/Collaborative%2520Planning/Files/CARegionalProgress_2-1-2011.pdf

Climate Change, Land Use, And Infrastructure Web Portal
http://www.climatechange.ca.gov/action/cclu/

CARB directed the Metropolitan Planning Organization [urban areas primarily http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Planning_Organization] for each region to develop a “Sustainable Communities Strategy” (SCS) that integrates transportation, land-use and housing policies to plan for achievement of the emissions target for their region.
http://www.sustainability2030.com/sustainabilityclips/2009/10/20/california-sb-375-sustainable-communities-strategy.html

California Dept. of Conservation California Sustainable Communities - Emerald Cities Pilot Projects;
http://www.consrv.ca.gov/index/Documents/Sustainable_Communities_FactSheet.pdf

The growth of state bureaucracy, unelected regional councils and choking regulation is the result of adhering to a global agenda “implemented locally.” The expense of all this is astounding in a time of budget austerity. Further, it restricts commerce and destroys property rights which affects tax revenue. In turn, the state looks increasingly to the victimized business or property owner to pay for the increased costs of beauraucracy - driving small businesses to the ground.


10 posted on 06/23/2012 12:57:42 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: OnAMission
Key quote from article:
... He responds to attacks on his revised views by noting that, unlike many climate scientists who fear a loss of government funding if they admit error, as a freelance scientist, he’s never been afraid to revise his theories in the face of new evidence. Indeed, that’s how science advances. ...

11 posted on 06/23/2012 1:21:52 PM PDT by Salman
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To: NormsRevenge

Talk about sacrilegious.


12 posted on 06/23/2012 2:11:52 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Global Warming has gone beyond the interest of profit into the realm of religion, or at least a substitute for religion in the minds of the secular, and some professed religious as well. In God’s eyes, morality and repentance of the commandments as given in the Bible is more important, especially when human civilization as a whole could only end with his permission and will behind it.


13 posted on 06/23/2012 2:13:06 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: OnAMission
Lovelock was hammerlock pressured into towing the IPCC line. Believe it. At the time I wrote, the IPCC contradicted Lovelock's life work, for how can it be that gaia (lower-case g) suddenly (post-Industrial Age) can't take care of 'herself'? Millions of years gaia worked it out, and now she can't handle +2F (at most)?

So glad he's recanted. The dude has some interesting ideas.

14 posted on 06/23/2012 2:19:12 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: OnAMission
Lovelock was hammerlock pressured into towing the IPCC line. Believe it. At the time I wrote, the IPCC contradicted Lovelock's life work, for how can it be that gaia (lower-case g) suddenly (post-Industrial Age) can't take care of 'herself'? Millions of years gaia worked it out, and now she can't handle +2F (at most)?

So glad he's recanted. The dude has some interesting ideas.

15 posted on 06/23/2012 2:19:37 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: OnAMission

So....do we get our money back?

Interesting poll at the site: “Do you think global warming is a real threat?”

5%
Yes

92%
No

3%
It won’t be my problem


16 posted on 06/23/2012 2:29:35 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Sherman Logan
I wish somebody would explain to me exactly why a beaver dam is "natural" and Hoover Dam is not.

Because they hate humans. Actually, they hate themselves and project that hate onto all humans.

What is important here is to note that he admits that published scientist in the Climate Change field cannot now admit they were wrong, since they could lose government funding. So basically, government funding has turned science into a religion. The only true science now is self funded.

17 posted on 06/23/2012 2:47:26 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: HighWheeler
This IDIOT doesn’t understand thermodynamics, nor the ebb & flow of solar cycles,

Why do you resort to name-calling? This guy understands those principles perfectly well. But for you to apparently deny that carbon dioxide molecules trap heat is really anti-scientific.

The argument boils down to how much effect increased CO2 will have. I happen to think (hope?) that it won't have much because of natural stabilizing influences (clouds, oceans, etc..) I agree with you, too, that the Sun has a huge effect that many dismiss.

I wouldn't call him an idiot, though. He clearly is not. We need many more sane voices like him.

18 posted on 06/23/2012 3:02:08 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: marsh2

I think I’m going to puke.

I’ve said California is doomed. This proves it.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 4:23:17 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Redcloak
Atheists say Man is an accident but then how do they explain the Earth?
As if the earth was forever here and will always exist.
20 posted on 06/23/2012 6:47:27 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: MaxMax

The Enivros are not atheists. They have a god and that deity’s name is Gaia.


21 posted on 06/23/2012 10:06:23 PM PDT by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: Sherman Logan

They think that the earth - Gaia - is a living creature, and that humans are a plague upon the earth. They point out that illnesses and plagues can exist for a long time, before reaching a mass and breaking out and doing a lot of damage. That is what we, humans, are doing.

Yes, it IS an odd theory.


22 posted on 06/23/2012 11:24:11 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
They point out that illnesses and plagues can exist for a long time, before reaching a mass and breaking out and doing a lot of damage. That is what we, humans, are doing.

Pas few days Drudge had a link to a story about obesity destroying the earth. Homosexuals like their partners lean.

23 posted on 06/24/2012 12:56:47 AM PDT by itsahoot (About that Coup d'état we had in 08, anyone worried yet?)
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To: OnAMission

Enviromentalism a nearly 100% white cult for snobs who can pretend to some esoteric higher principle. It is politically aligned with the Democratic party which is at least half comprised of people who cannot spell “enviroment” much less care about the enviroment. But then again noticing this much less commenting upon these facts is verbotten by the gatekeepers of “respectable” conservatism.


24 posted on 06/24/2012 5:13:30 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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