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Reason's Nick Gillespie Schools Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher on Fast and Furious
News ^ | June 23, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 06/23/2012 11:53:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

One of the finest examples of how liberal media members really don't know what they're talking about occurred on HBO's Real Time Friday when Reason's Nick Gillespie gave a much-needed education to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and host Bill Maher on the issue of Fast and Furious.

In the end, Maddow and Maher embarrassed themselves in a fashion that should have both of their respective networks seriously concerned about their qualifications to disseminate information to the public (video follows with transcript and commentary):

Reason's Nick Gillespie Schools Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher on Fast and Furious

RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: I think it is, you know, if you believe that Shirley Sherrod was a horrible reverse racist at the Department of Agriculture...

BILL MAHER, HOST: [Laughs] Yes.

MADDOW: ...and if you believe a guy in a pimp suit exposed Planned Parenthood as sex slavers, then yeah, this is the kind of thing that the mainstream media ought to be following Fox too as well. It is based on a crazy conspiracy theory that the Bush, the Obama administration is fomenting gun violence in Mexico in order to make Americans anti-gun…


MADDOW: …so that they can rescind the second amendment.

BILL MAHER, HOST: Right. It’s kind of the, it's the Right's... GILLESPIE: No, wait, wait, wait, wait. The scandal is that the ATF, which, you know, their high watermark before this was the Waco standoff, where instead of being disbanded they got to be in charge of explosives as well as alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. They were running an organization, an operation where they were not even telling the Mexican government as in past things where this kind of operation...

MAHER: Started under Bush, right?

GILLESPIE: That was a different operation.

MADDOW: Same ideas.

GILLESPIE: Yeah, but they were also in cahoots with the actual Mexican authorities, whoever those might be. But, so you have Eric Holder saying, “No, this wasn’t going on.” Then it’s, “Oh yes, it is going on.” This is, this is a massive screw up, and there is something worth checking out here. It’s not about whether or not Obama’s going to take away the second amendment or anything like that. Eric Holder doesn’t know what’s going on in the organizations that he runs, just like he says, “We’re not waging war on medical marijuana dispensaries in California,” where they’ve made more raids in three years than Bush managed to do in eight or Clinton managed to do.

MAHER: Should he be held in contempt though? Is it…

GILLESPIE: Yeah, well…

MAHER: Really?

GILLESPIE: If he’s not playing by the rules of Congress, and this is not a straight executive power thing because the ATF is a, is a joint Congress and executive branch thing.


It's quite clear Maddow, knowing the show, the host, and the audience, believed she was going to be able to just speak Democrat talking points and Maher would back her up.

Unfortunately for the two of them - but quite beneficial for viewers at home! - Gillespie was there to counter the propaganda.

In so doing, Gillespie exposed Maher as a total nincompoop without any understanding of what he's talking about.

NewsBusters readers know full well I've been exposing that for years.

But far more important, Gillespie showed Maddow to also be a shameless shill lacking the facts on this matter but willing to present the administration's side regardless of the truth.

As Maher is just a comedian with a television show on HBO, him being outed as an idiot is really just sauce for the goose. I demonstrate Maher's deplorably low intellectual capacity so often it's become a sport.

Maddow on the other hand is an unjustifiably well-respected anchor on a so-called cable news network.

That she could be so easily exposed as devoid of the facts in a friendly environment with a supportive host and an adoring audience should seriously concern folks at NBC and MSNBC about the woman they've propped up as the brightest in their organization.

If Maddow really is the best NBC News has to offer, there's no wonder it's "struggling," "slipping," and "adrift" in the ratings war.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alteredsource; banglist; billmaher; fastandfurious; hbo; lesbianwitch; maddow; maher; maherthestupid; nbc; rachelmaddow; radicalmadcow
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who thinks maher has a shred of intelligence or comedic talent ought to check out his filmography.

21 posted on 06/23/2012 1:48:59 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: Kaslin
Maddow is just working for her pimp Obama.
22 posted on 06/23/2012 2:39:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Kaslin

That is excellent! Did you do that? Saved to print out. Good job.

23 posted on 06/23/2012 3:17:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin

HOORAY Nick Gillespie! I wouldn’t watch or listen to either of them (or view the clip in this thread) but, HOORAY Nick Gillespie!

24 posted on 06/23/2012 3:24:24 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin
Wide Receiver, point #2: I have a hard time with that. "To find out who they were."

You gotta be kidding me. With all the intel power we have at our disposal, we don't have enough on them already, without the gun angle? I don't get that. There has to be more to it.

25 posted on 06/23/2012 4:32:31 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: mylife


26 posted on 06/23/2012 4:37:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: Travis McGee

Barack Milhouse Obama has some splainin’ to do.
Wheres Woodward and Bernstein when we need them?

27 posted on 06/23/2012 5:19:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: True Republican Patriot

I am beginning to think like you do. I don’t think that Obama/Holder/Napolitano really believed that increased Mexican and border violence because of lax US gun laws, even if proven, would be enough to convince the American public to throw out the 2nd amendment. It is too much of a stretch, the chance of it working that way is not sure enough to justify the risk of such an operation. It is more likely something worse than the current narrative from our side.

28 posted on 06/23/2012 11:48:25 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: Sicvee; Jim Robinson

Learned awhile ago that Reality is can always be far worse than anything one can dream up as Fiction!!!!!!!
Looks like America has been attacked from the Worst and Most dangerous of It’s Enemies. and they conned themselves right into Our Most Honored, most Powerful and Protective Office of Our United States! The President ruling from Our Oval Office is a Proven Terrorist far Worse than Osama Bin Ladin ever dreamed he could be!
May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from The Muslim Brotherhood and It’s PLants and Operatives! and It’s Prophet from Allah, Barsck Hussein Obama, aka: Barry Soetoro and only Allah knows who this Fraud really is and what his real History actually is!!
P.S.: You can bet PUTIN and the Chinese know everything about this wretched Fraud and Prostitute....No wonder Putin looks at him as the sole of a shoe!

29 posted on 06/24/2012 5:52:51 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Kaslin; Jim Robinson

Can you revise this and post it correctly, please!
Operation Wide Receiver never transferred 1400 weapons, they never transferred more than 400 from the Phoenix Office Tracking and most probably only 300 before shutting it down immediately when they discovered the Cartels had caught on and were then disarming the RDIF’s and hence the ability to trace the weapons. I believe the actual number of arrests under Wide Receiver was in fact 1400 plus!
Your Chart is Priceless and so Informative that I hope You can correct this and We and the Patriots can plaster it over the Entire Universe! Obama MURDERED Innocent Citizens and must be put on Trial for the Worst of Mass Murders and TREASON NOT DREAMED OF BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

30 posted on 06/24/2012 6:02:43 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Check out my posts on this thread and offer your thoughts and input which I always greatly respect and honor?
You might also check out a few of the posts related to Fast and Furious which may go much further than just potical fraud and quite possibly to Blacmail and Paybacks to Drug Cartels.....Is ther any chance Rush, Hannity and the others will finally wake up to the true depth of this atrocity and Murderous Crime Spree perpetrated by the terrorists now ruling the White House?

31 posted on 06/24/2012 6:11:20 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Their e-mail addresses are at their websites. Send them the links and other information you have and see what happens. I have received personal e-mails back from Rush, Helen Thomas (very nasty) and Brit Hume, amongst others.

32 posted on 06/24/2012 9:26:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you, and I will e-mail Rush, Hannity, Brit and mark Levin this afternoon. And I will ignore that Old Witch, Helen Thomas since she was nasty to You! :-)I think I will send her a mirror! That should really upset her.....

33 posted on 06/25/2012 9:25:22 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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