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Journalists' Frown Table: NPR Panel Wants 'Fast and Furious' Inquiry Declared DOA
News Buster.org ^ | June 23. 2012 | Tim Graham

Posted on 06/23/2012 5:41:20 PM PDT by Kaslin

All three journalists invited to the journalists' roundtable on the Diane Rehm Show on NPR Friday played down the Fast and Furious scandal as a loser for Republicans. Jeanne Cummings of Politico wanted Congress to drop it like a hot potato: "to create this big constitutional clash with the White House makes Congress, once again, look like it's just got its eye off the ball. This isn't what people want them to do... we're going nowhere here."

NPR reporter Ari Shapiro recalled how Bush attorney general Alberto Gonzales was dogged by a U.S. Attorney-firing scandal because Republicans were willing to harp on it. But the Democrats are united for Obama, so it somehow cannot be a scandal: "I think it's only when and if we see Democrats turning against Holder, which I don't expect we're going to see, that this will really enter a new phase." How convenient is that reasoning?

Doyle McManus was mildest, sticking to the line that anything that distracts from the economy is somehow a bad idea for Republicans to pursue (without anyone noticing the utter lack of pursuit by "objective" journalists):

McMANUS: It's not a great issue for the president or the White House. They are on the wrong side of this in that, you know, if you want to -- that, initially, when the Justice Department was asked about this program, about the gun -- what's called gun-walking into Mexico, they said, well it's not going on.  We don't know anything about it. They've acknowledged that wrongdoing.

On the other hand, is this really what Republicans in the House want to be talking about and arguing about on television for months and months? Well, no, actually their agenda is -- of course, is supposed to be to talk about jobs, jobs, jobs. And so they run the risk of looking as if they're pursuing the administration on everything else but jobs.

Substitute host Terence Smith wondered where (if anywhere) this was going:

TERENCE SMITH: Jeanne Cummings, several reason attorneys general have had problems with Congress and been in tight spots with the executive refusing to turn over documents or whatever. What's the political impact to this? And look ahead to the election. Is anybody going to be talking about this?

CUMMINGS: No, they aren't going to be. And that's -- I mean, I agree with Doyle that it's not good for either side. But I think, on balance, this is -- Congress has just gotten itself, you know, in a patch where they should probably find their way out. I mean, if you look at any focus group with voters, all they care about is the economy. That's all they care about. And for -- to create this big constitutional clash with the White House makes Congress, once again, look like it's just got its eye off the ball. This isn't what people want them to do.

They are tired of the confrontations in Washington. They're frustrated by it. And they think that Washington doesn't understand their problems and isn't trying to help them. This just gives them one more reason to think that Washington is out of touch. And then, in the end, when you look at what would be the real impact of all of this, if they find them in contempt, that should be -- that contempt citation would be enforced by the U.S. attorney general who works for the Justice Department. So we're going nowhere here.

Then came the listeners with their (liberal) input:

SMITH; I have some emails here, including one rather sharply worded one from David on the subject of the contempt citation. He writes, "It appears that 85 percent of the country holds the Congress in contempt. Therefore, the hearings on Fast and Furious are an attempt to distract from the economic issues that the Congress is not able to handle. Isn't that the fact, Ari Shapiro? -- says David.
 
SHAPIRO: This is a point that Spokesman Jay Carney made at the White House yesterday in the briefing. He said, if Congress wonders why they are the most unpopular of any Congress in recent memory, maybe if they would spend their time working on the economy instead of what Carney called partisan fishing expeditions, they might see their numbers go up. You know what? As you mentioned, many attorneys general recently have been in this kind of trouble with Congress.
 
And I covered the Justice Department when Bush's Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was under fire for the U.S. attorney dismissals, which ultimately led him to leave the post of attorney general under a cloud. And one big difference between that controversy and this controversy is that when Gonzales was under fire in Congress, there were Republicans and Democrats calling for him to step down. Now, we've seen six Republican senators call for Eric Holder to step down, but the Democrats have been a united front. And I think it's only when and if we see Democrats turning against Holder, which I don't expect we're going to see, that this will really enter a new phase.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; alteredsource; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; npr; obama

1 posted on 06/23/2012 5:41:25 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Taxpayer $$$$$$ are used to support these traitors!!!


2 posted on 06/23/2012 5:44:03 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Kaslin

Sure didn’t drop it when the Contra scandal hit. Nope, had to get Reagan one way or other


3 posted on 06/23/2012 5:44:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: Kaslin

Two words NPR: Anita Hill.


4 posted on 06/23/2012 5:44:27 PM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: Kaslin
All three journalists invited to the journalists' roundtable on the Diane Rehm Show on NPR Friday played down the Fast and Furious scandal as a loser for Republicans.

Then they should pursue it.
5 posted on 06/23/2012 5:46:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin
Wow, fast and furious has the dem's scared sh!tless!

As it should.

6 posted on 06/23/2012 5:52:43 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

NPR = Irrelevant, treasonous, asswipe clowns.


7 posted on 06/23/2012 5:55:02 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Kaslin

One name: Brian Terry. FUNPR!


8 posted on 06/23/2012 5:56:19 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Kaslin
"when Gonzales was under fire in Congress, there were Republicans and Democrats calling for him to step down. Now, we've seen six Republican senators call for Eric Holder to step down, but the Democrats have been a united front."

Well ... we all know that there are still a bunch of RINOs in congress -- but when have you heard the term "DINO"? Pretty much all the old "Blue Dog" Democrats have all been defeated by Republicans or eaten by now.

If NPR wants this to go away, it's about the best reason to pursue it!

9 posted on 06/23/2012 5:57:17 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: cripplecreek

>>Then they should pursue it.<<

Exactly. Hello!!! There’s a story here! You’re reporters after all! Big story too. Presidential coverup, criminal activity, conspiracy to subvert the 2nd Amendment rights of the American people. Not to mention dead Mexican citizens by the hundreds and two dead American law enforcement officers.

Hellooooo!!!! (crickets)


10 posted on 06/23/2012 5:58:59 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Kaslin

Holder LIED, AMERICANS DIED! Hell yes it’s an issue! If they commited a felony shipping illegal guns to Mexican drug lords and americans were killed then they should be tried for that murder..


11 posted on 06/23/2012 6:03:23 PM PDT by satan69 (garden)
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To: Kaslin

What is an NPR?


12 posted on 06/23/2012 6:03:47 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

Oh yes. Ignore the Kenyan’s classic KGB op to undermine the second amendment. Oh and the 1000s of people killed with the guns the lizard supplied.

If NPR says F&F is bad for the Republican brand, it must be a winning issue.


13 posted on 06/23/2012 6:06:04 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Kaslin

“And I think it’s only when and if we see Democrats turning against Holder, which I don’t expect we’re going to see, that this will really enter a new phase.”

If not before, you will see a new phase when people start going to jail. Then, under the clear and convincing threat of going to prison, the weak links will begin to sing like a bird in hopes of saving their own skin.

There is only one way for two people to keep a secret, one of them must die.

The more the pressure, the greater the chance this is going to blow wide open.


14 posted on 06/23/2012 6:18:40 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: satan69

Correction: Holder lied, people died. Don’t forget the 200+ Mexicans who were killed because of Fast and Furious


15 posted on 06/23/2012 6:19:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: He is counting on the ignorantOne Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: satan69

Correction: Holder lied, people died. Don’t forget the 200+ Mexicans who were killed because of Fast and Furious


16 posted on 06/23/2012 6:19:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: He is counting on the ignorantOne Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: cripplecreek
Several of them probably knew exactly what DOJ was doing in Fast and Furious and prepared propaganda pieces to support the outcome.

That would be a real good reason to want the whole business dropped because when the indictments get passed around they'll get one of them!

This one conversation, sad to say, is a really good reason to eliminate NPR

17 posted on 06/23/2012 6:25:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

It is kind of amusing that NPR made its in-depth journalist reputation on the live and heavily commented coverage of the Senate committee investigating the Watergate break-in and cover up.

Now it is “Hear no evil, see no evil...” as these in the tank shills allow murder and corruption to go unexamined. What hypocrites.


18 posted on 06/23/2012 6:32:08 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Kaslin

That kind of amazing and penetrating political analysis is easily worth $150K-$500K a year. NPR has perfected wasting taxpayer dollars to a fine art.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 6:34:46 PM PDT by JPG (Don't just talk about it, make it happen.)
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To: Kaslin
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20 posted on 06/23/2012 6:34:53 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Kaslin
Funny, that's how I felt about Watergate.

PS - Nobody died in Watergate.

21 posted on 06/23/2012 6:39:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Kaslin

If they had multiple video showing Obama and Holder driving a bus load of automatic weapons to Mexico and trading them for drugs, then loading the bus up with illegals, all previously convicted of crimes in the U.S.

Then delivering the drugs to a children’s school and giving each illegal a knife and gun before letting them off the bus, well the media would spin it as a sting gone wrong.


22 posted on 06/23/2012 6:43:38 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Kaslin
"to create this big constitutional clash with the White House makes Congress, once again, look like it's just got its eye off the ball. This isn't what people want them to do... we're going nowhere here."

They're working hard to try to make this a reality. I don't believe it's working. They can only get away with altering realty when their new chosen reality is much closer to the truth. This one is way off. Arms were sold to criminals under Obomas watch. People are getting killed. That's the issue here. They can't spin that fact.
"Reality" is going the other way. People are starting, finally, to pay attention to what this is all about. The MSM tried not to even acknowledge it, as in "ignorance is bliss", but the story got out anyway. They failed doing their part in the cover up.

23 posted on 06/23/2012 6:44:17 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kaslin

A “loser for Republicans”...

Isn’t it wonderful how they care so much about us, that they are looking out for our best interests, that they don’t want us to get hurt?


24 posted on 06/23/2012 6:48:30 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: Kaslin
initially, when the Justice Department was asked about this program, about the gun -- what's called gun-walking into Mexico, they said, well it's not going on. We don't know anything about it. They've acknowledged that wrongdoing.

Acknowledging wrongdoing = Democrat speak for "We lied".

25 posted on 06/23/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: ridesthemiles
Taxpayer $$$$$$ are used to support these traitors!!!

DEFUND NPR totally!

26 posted on 06/23/2012 7:02:09 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

27 posted on 06/23/2012 7:34:37 PM PDT by Obadiah (2008: Hope & Change -- 2012: Fear & Destruction)
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To: Kaslin
So it's Republicans fomenting a "constitutional crisis"? Courtesy of Matthew Spalding at The Foundry (American Heritage), a partial list of what this Imperial President has done in TOTAL DISREGARD of the Constitution he swore to preserve, protect and defend:
28 posted on 06/23/2012 7:34:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Da Coyote
What is an NPR?

I heard one buzzing earlier this evening fly by my ear. I was lazy, and didn't even bother to swat it.

29 posted on 06/23/2012 8:01:08 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: Kaslin
The only good Liberal “Journalist” is a dea....

Never mind.

30 posted on 06/23/2012 8:45:13 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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NPR is nothing more than the broadcast arm of the left wing of the Democrat party. Fine. But what bothers me is that money extorted from the taxpayers goes to pay for this partisan drivel. If the Republicans take the House and White House,NPR needs to be tossed off the taxpayer dole right after Planned Parenthood.


31 posted on 06/23/2012 9:14:49 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Kaslin

Does anyone actually think that NPR will have honest, knowledgeable, non-political reporters/journalists who are not Democratic hacks on their show?

Even an ocassionally thinking liberal like Juan Williams was treated like a Klansman at an Obama rally.


32 posted on 06/23/2012 9:26:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

33 posted on 06/23/2012 11:17:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norseman
Exactly. Hello!!! There’s a story here! You’re reporters after all! Big story too. Presidential coverup, criminal activity, conspiracy to subvert the 2nd Amendment rights of the American people. Not to mention dead Mexican citizens by the hundreds and two dead American law enforcement officers.

Hey, Watergate was a story about a second-rate burglary to gain the upper hand in an election, which a President improperly concealed when he found about it after the fact. All Fast & Furious is, is a case where the feds, in a plot to screw us all out of our civil rights under color of law in contravention of their oaths of office, engaged in a conspiracy which involved committing an act of war against a sovereign nation and getting hundreds of people killed. That certainly can't compare to the scandal that Watergate was.

34 posted on 06/24/2012 12:26:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kaslin
..."to create this big constitutional clash with the White House makes Congress, once again, look like it's just got its eye off the ball. This isn't what people want them to do... we're going nowhere here."

Leftists always say it backwards to try to make it sound sane. The President and the DOJ are the ones causing the Constitutional clash Crisis and the ball that we need to keep our eyes on is the treasonous dictator in the WH and all his carefully selected minions. Losing sight of them will be our final undoing.

35 posted on 06/24/2012 3:26:03 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Kaslin

NPR is a “progressive’ and left leaning toward the supine
organization subsidized by the Democratic Party.IMO. It is by this standard that It ought be expected the journalists they select would support the Democratic Party view.


36 posted on 06/24/2012 5:38:22 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Godwin1
NPR is nothing more than the broadcast arm of the left wing of the Democrat party. Fine. But what bothers me is that money extorted from the taxpayers goes to pay for this partisan drivel.

They're like Pacifica Radio in the early 60's, when they were cerebral and balanced; they invited in people like Wm. F. Buckley as often as they did Norman Mailer and Izzy "Communist Traitor" Stone (who worked for Moscow).

That changed in 1966 with the commencement of the Vietnamese War. Orders came down from Moscow Center, and the Communists on staff promptly took the place over in a palace coup and slammed the editorial policy over hard left, Moscow-line, and it's stayed there ever since.

Pacifica first came to my attention (tho' there was an outlet here in Houston, buried in the middle of the college radio stations and low-power classical stations) when I was out in California in 1993, and heard on late-night radio some Amerindian racist driveling on about how the People are going to take over America and promptly rename it with some big-cheese Indian name and run all the white people off.

NPR is becoming more and more like Pacifica was in the 60's, and I shouldn't be surprised to find that it's being run now by out-and-out Communists.

37 posted on 06/24/2012 5:46:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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