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Maher, Maddow Deny Being Partisan; Can't Name Republican They Agree With
realclearpolitics.com ^ | 22 June, 2012 | NA

Posted on 06/24/2012 5:18:34 AM PDT by marktwain

During a heated discussion on Fast & Furious on HBO's "Real Time" where guest panelist Rachel Maddow, of MSNBC, accused Republicans of going after the Obama administration and the Holder Justice Department because they believe it is a conspiracy to install tougher restrictions on gun ownership, and host Bill Maher tried to delegitimize the investigation as political in nature, fellow panelist Nick Gillespie, of Reason, accused them of being the partisans.

Gillespie asked Maddow and Maher, who claim not to be partisan themselves, to name one elected Republican they agree with. The duo could not, instead they said it is not them who have a problem, it is the hyper-partisan Republicans.

"You will always take the side of the Democrat over a Republican," Gillespie told Maddow.

"No I won't. You don't even know me," Maddow said in an attempt to distract from Gillespie's point.

"I've seen your show," he rebutted.

"So, what's a Republican that you pick over a Democrat in an issue?" Gillespie asked.

"That's not a fair question," host Bill Maher said. "If there were Republicans -- you could ask me the same question, I could answer that question twenty years ago but Republicans have changed. I haven't changed. You would probably say the same thing. It is they who have changed, not us."

"Twenty years ago there were Republicans who absolutely were reasonable. They are an extinct species now," Maher added.

"So the important thing is that you're not a partisan," a sarcastic Gillespie responded. "This is my point."

"Yes," Maher said. "Both things can be true. Absolutely."

"You're not partisan, but you will always be against the Republicans," Gillespie said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; maddow; maher
I am not parisan. If the other party would simply and completely agree with me, I would support them. That is being non-partisan./Sarcasm
1 posted on 06/24/2012 5:18:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Yes,” Maher said. “Both things can be true. Absolutely.”

Pure 1984 doublethink. From the novel:

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.”[2]

2. Orwell, George (1949). Nineteen Eighty-Four. Martin Secker & Warburg Ltd, London, part 1, chapter 3, pp 32


2 posted on 06/24/2012 5:24:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Where are the “reasonable” democrats?


3 posted on 06/24/2012 5:39:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: marktwain

Doctor, your diagnosis is spot on.


4 posted on 06/24/2012 5:45:31 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I like baseball but now that they allowed Bill Maher to buy part of the New York Mets I have become a New York Yankee fan

Funny the Steinbrenners are Republicans and Yankees are 100 times the franchise the Mets

5 posted on 06/24/2012 5:46:11 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: marktwain

I don’t care if Maddow, Maher, or any other talking head is partisan. I don’t care if MSNBC calls itself LIBNBC or LEFTNBC and devotes 100% of its programming to lib propaganda. What I don’t like is tv yakkers claiming to be impartial when they have a clear agenda.


6 posted on 06/24/2012 5:52:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: marktwain

Well played.


7 posted on 06/24/2012 5:56:03 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: marktwain
I am not parisan. If the other party would simply and completely agree with me, I would support them. That is being non-partisan./Sarcasm.

And they need to compromise and realize that my position is the right one.

8 posted on 06/24/2012 6:12:24 AM PDT by immadashell
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We could always follow the example of the democrats who treated GWB **SO** fairly....

Surprisingly little mention from Michael moore about his messiah having played more golf than GWB did, even though Moore mercilessly pilloried W in the movie that didn’t win the election for them.

Apparently it’s OK for a liberal to play lots of golf while the economy suputters and millions of Americans lose their jobs and homes.


9 posted on 06/24/2012 6:26:47 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Zell Miller was the last democrat I could agree with on the issues.
Now 99.999999% are insane....morally bankrupt with no redeeming social value.


10 posted on 06/24/2012 6:30:59 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: marktwain
“You are not only horribly wrong but incredibly stupid to disagree with ME!”

This is the mindset of the racist, heterophoboc, bigoted, mendacious, mean-spirited, misogynistic, Marxist moron Maher.

Maddow? well “she” is simply a delusional dyke dolt and not worth the price of the batteries in "her" vibrator.

11 posted on 06/24/2012 6:35:19 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("You may call me a racist but I insist Obama is not God.")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Where are the “reasonable” democrats?

They are now almost all Republicans. The truth is that the Democrats have moved so far to the statist Left that their party would be virtually unrecognizable to the likes of John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman.

Today's Democrat Party is instead a coalition of government-employed Progressives, professional Marxist agitators, racial antagonists, angry atheists, homosexual provocateurs, mobbed-up union bullies, irredentist Latino nationalists, entertainment industry lowlifes, hyper-partisan journalists, and tenured university radicals - all egging on an increasingly rootless mass of permanently-dependent refugees from responsibility who believe that their mere existence entitles them to whatever they want regardless of intellect, ability or effort.

12 posted on 06/24/2012 6:36:13 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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20 years ago .... that would be GHWB. ... I suppose when he broke his read my lips pledge and agreed with the d’rats to a tax increase.


13 posted on 06/24/2012 6:44:35 AM PDT by grandpa jones (obama delenda est)
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To: marktwain
I've never met a Muslim I didn't like, however I don't remember ever meeting a Muslim
14 posted on 06/24/2012 6:59:14 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: boomop1
You have not been in a convenience store, motel or gas station lately.
15 posted on 06/24/2012 7:22:22 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: boomop1

LOL

In my life I’ve had nearly 100% positive experience with Mormons.

And every Muslim I’ve known are secretive, detached, and insular.


16 posted on 06/24/2012 7:29:25 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: marktwain
They said they were non-PARISIAN, not non-PARTISAN.

The interviewer heard them wrong.

And I agree, they are non-parisian. Neither of them were born or reared in Paris, France.

17 posted on 06/24/2012 7:33:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: boomop1

LOL

In my life I’ve had nearly 100% positive experience with Mormons.

And every Muslim I’ve known are secretive, detached, and insular.


18 posted on 06/24/2012 7:37:15 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ABN 505
I am in Rocky Point NC pretty rural, retired and stay clear of any large town or city. During 911 we lived in Wilmington and were crossing guards (my wifes big idea), the school she had had Muzies they wouldn't make eye contact with her.
19 posted on 06/24/2012 7:41:22 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: marktwain
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it....

Mather lacks the balls to admit to what he's become... or as Orwell so aptly explains he's become a victim of extreme doublethink and he's too stupid or indoctrinated to see it...

Mathers's old-think... as are his viewers.

20 posted on 06/24/2012 9:21:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: marktwain
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it....

Mather lacks the balls to admit to what he's become... or as Orwell so aptly explains he's become a victim of extreme doublethink and he's too stupid or indoctrinated to see it...

Mathers's old-think... as are his viewers.

21 posted on 06/24/2012 9:21:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: marktwain
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it....

Mather lacks the balls to admit to what he's become... or as Orwell so aptly explains he's become a victim of extreme doublethink and he's too stupid or indoctrinated to see it...

Mathers's old-think... as are his viewers.

22 posted on 06/24/2012 9:21:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: marktwain
Maher gets owned by George Will...
23 posted on 06/24/2012 9:55:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: ABN 505
I am in Rocky Point NC pretty rural, retired and stay clear of any large town or city. During 911 we lived in Wilmington and were crossing guards (my wifes big idea), the school she had had Muzies they wouldn't make eye contact with her.
24 posted on 06/24/2012 10:18:53 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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