Lichen Can Survive in Space: Space Station Research Sheds Light On Origin of Life

Science Daily ^ | 23 JUNE 2012 | reprinted from materials provided by European Space Agency

[onedoug]

...When astronauts venture on a spacewalk, hours are spent preparing protective suits to survive the hostile conditions. No effort was made to protect the bacteria, seeds, lichen and algae attached to the outside of the Space Station, however.

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Lichen have proven to be tough cookies -- back on Earth, some species continue to grow normally.

[calex59]

Claiming that life came here from someone where else on an asteroid does not prove the “origin of life”. It would still leave the question of how did the life come into being before it attached to the asteroid. The theory of life coming here from somewhere else is a cheap attempt at misdirection to stop the questions about the origin of life, which evolutionists can’t answer. They hoped this would shut people up.

[onedoug]

I said pre-biotic molecules. There’s a difference.

[Mister Da]

I agree life could appear in many different places. If so, & with the revelation that life can survive space, Earth may be colonized by native species as well as alien species. There may have been interbreeding. Perhaps plants or animals, which are fundamentally different, are alien, while the other is native.

Life surviving the vacuum of space is a big thing!

[RobbyS]

So is the order of things. Order and disorder “exist” simultaneously, which us why the Greeks started trying to puzzle out things and create what they called philosophy.

[JDW11235]

“It’s very compelling to wonder...at least for me. And I think God would understand and appreciate humanity trying to reason it out too.”

Me too, but at that point we get far beyond the realm of physical science, and deep into faith. “With God, all things are possible,” Moses turned a stick into a snake (through the power of God), and back again, among many, many other “miracles.” I prefer to call it the “Science of God.” He knows how to do it, and, I believe, sets up the natural laws in which we operate, which may not even be the same for one region of space to another (No one knows, and will EVER know, until/unless He revels it to them, but it certainly won’t be tested out). I’m quite certain that it is impossible for us to know something that happened before we existed, without inspiration/revelation.

Now, people can have a theory, but in science those theories can be disproved, but NEVER, EVER, EVER, proven correct. Affirming the consequent isn’t even good logic anyway.

[Kartographer]

I would say a study of the complexity Bacterial Flagellar Motor alone would would be convincing, but I some how doubt it.

[HamiltonJay]

I will never get the foolish “read the Bible as ever word is literal” folks...

Change, by its very existence is proof of God.

The second worst days for humanity was the day some ignorant slob became literate and was unable to discern allegory from literal when it came to the Bible. The worst day, was when he was able to convince other ignorant slobs to follow his ignorant belief.

[HamiltonJay]

God gave man REASON and the desire to understand the universe, only the ignorant would argue not to pursue those things.

The idea that science and religion are mutually exclusive is idiotic, and only those relatively ignorant in one or the other could believe such a thing.

[going hot]

Flageller motor? Pshaw!

Bored to 3.625, stroked to 4.625, ported D shaped intake and exhaust ports, 42 mm mikuni carb, matched intake manifold, geared at 3.28, free flowing LSR pipes, grab a handfull and feel the torque zero to 100 before you can look down to see what it is, only took 109 years to evolve.

You don't give the primary planner sufficient credit for those flagellate motors.

[rottndog]

That’s the very first thought I had...even if some microscopic life form made it to Earth, how could it possibly survive the inferno of getting through the atmosphere?

[D-fendr]

Thanks for posting this article.

As regards to nothing from nothing, I think the concept of nothingness interesting. The Cassini Effect sort of illustrating the idea.

Going way before life, looking, in the very large scale, at why there’s anything at all - precursors to life - the Broken Symmetry hypothesis is also very interesting to explore.

[PUGACHEV]

"Nothing comes from nothing."

Language hobbles us in this type of discussion. For instance, what do you mean when you use the word "nothing"? Do you mean complete absence of all disorder, a blank uniformity of everything, no matter, no energy, or something else?

[onedoug]

I suspect I mean the void. But God governs quantum dynamics, All.