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EU: Germany tells Greece to stop asking for help and start cutting budgets
The Telegraph ^ | 6/24/2012 | Alistair Osborne

Posted on 06/24/2012 10:03:46 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Germany has told Greece to stop asking for more help and get on with implementing the reforms it has already promised as tensions mount before this week’s crucial summit of European Union leaders.


German finance minister Wolfgang Schaeuble

In unusually blunt remarks, German finance minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said: “The most important task facing new prime minister [Antonis] Samaras is to enact the programme agreed upon quickly and without further delay instead of asking how much more others can do for Greece.”

His comments highlight Germany’s growing impatience with the eurozone’s problem nations in what is shaping up to be another significant week for the single currency bloc.

A formal request from Spain for up to €100bn (£80bn) of emergency funding for its banks is expected on Monday, while the week ends with a two-day summit in Brussels where German chancellor Angela Merkel is again expected to dig in her heels over the eurobonds championed by France’s new president, Francois Hollande. Such bonds would mutualise the debts of the 17 eurozone nations, effectively leaving Germany on the hook for more spendthrift members.

Greece’s new three-party coalition government took charge on Thursday, vowing to renegotiate the terms of its latest €130bn bail-out. It wants a two-year extension to the 2014 deadline for it to cut its budget deficit to 2.1pc of GDP from 9.3pc in 2011. Such delay would, however, require up to €20bn more foreign funding.

Mr Schaeuble added: “Greece hasn’t tried enough so far, that has to be said quite clearly… no one on Earth who has followed this issue would think that Greece has fulfilled what it has promised.”

Owing to ill-health, Greece’s new leaders will not be at the Brussels summit to hear that message personally. Mr Samaras underwent eye surgery on

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; france; germany; greece; russia; spain; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 06/24/2012 10:03:52 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Attention socialist lazy parasites:

Game over.


2 posted on 06/24/2012 10:44:20 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: bruinbirdman
Gee what bimbos. The Greeks can mine coal in Spain. These people are as bad as California or Illinois.
3 posted on 06/24/2012 10:45:20 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: bruinbirdman

Seems like Germany is paying for all these freeloaders (Portugal, Spain, Greece). So what does Germany get out of the Euro? What is the benefit?


4 posted on 06/24/2012 11:07:37 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: bruinbirdman
Good for them.

Makes me want to go out and buy a Porsche, but I can only afford a used VW.

The Obama Economic record is the true Greek Tragedy.

5 posted on 06/24/2012 11:12:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“The Obama Economic record is the true Greek Tragedy.” Is that one of those double entendeds?


6 posted on 06/24/2012 11:20:38 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf
Could be my FRiend, could be.
7 posted on 06/24/2012 11:26:17 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Game over.

I thought it was just starting....


8 posted on 06/25/2012 1:18:59 AM PDT by QT3.14 (Repubs 2012: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

The Euro gives Germany a good export currency, which is why Germany is a strong exporter.

It’s been noted by both pro and anti Euro folks that if Germany was using the old DM (Deutschmark), that currency would generally tend to be very strong. While it is true that the Germans could devalue the DM, that would run the risk of currency inflation.

Mention inflation to Germans, and you’ll get the same kind of reaction that you’d get giving the housecat a bath in the sink. The hyperinflationary episode they experienced during the Weimar Republic era left a deep and profound impression on the Germans, and they’ll never forget it.


9 posted on 06/25/2012 1:32:38 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: bruinbirdman

When I was in Greece for the first time, back in the 1970s, more Greeks spoke German than English. Maybe they can still remember how.


10 posted on 06/25/2012 4:20:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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Wouldn't it be just like Clio and her sense of humor if the reluctant Germans of the 21st century were handed what the enthusiastic Germans of the mid-20th century tried to seize by force!

"History is not just cruel. It's witty."
Charles Krauthammer

11 posted on 06/25/2012 4:28:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (History is not just cruel. It's witty. --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
If the U.S. schools were competent and worth the name, there would be proper instruction about the period of the Weimar Republic...and all OTHER economic/social/political failures across the world.

THAT particular episode in German history (and by association, world history) is an increasingly terrifying nightmare, the more you know about it. It SHOULD be a very indelible lesson and an everlasting incentive to fiscal responsibility (both for individuals and for nations).

However, without facts or proper instruction, it is impossible for us to benefit from THEIR very bitter experience...so the lesson is lost on succeeding generations!

12 posted on 06/25/2012 4:39:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: bruinbirdman
German needs to get hardcore when dealing with any of the other European pauper nations.

They could probably get their attention if they start playing more of these on public stations: Best German Marches

13 posted on 06/25/2012 4:58:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: bruinbirdman

NEIN! VEE HAF NO MORE SKITTLES FOR YOU!


14 posted on 06/25/2012 5:01:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Savage Beast

Great tag line.


15 posted on 06/25/2012 5:10:06 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
The Euro gives Germany a good export currency, which is why Germany is a strong exporter.

It’s been noted by both pro and anti Euro folks that if Germany was using the old DM (Deutschmark), that currency would generally tend to be very strong.

Germany was also a strong exporter when it still had the DM. What’s more, since the Euro has been introduced, the part of Germany’s exports that goes into the Euro zone has shrunk, not grown.

The fact is that Germany does not need the Euro at all. The Euro was a ploy: When politicians introduced it, they knew very well that it would lead to problems. They were hoping that the problems would force EU countries to create a political union, a “United States of Europe.” They knew that nobody in Europe (except themselves) wanted such a thing, but hoped they could force its creation with help of the Euro.

16 posted on 06/25/2012 5:28:41 AM PDT by cartan
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To: bruinbirdman

Who says soccer doesn’t matter? The Germans beat the Greeks in the Euro 2012 game, and now they get up the nerve to say “no more bailouts.”


17 posted on 06/25/2012 6:58:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Caipirabob

Perfect caption. Kudos to you sir!


18 posted on 06/25/2012 9:53:08 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: bruinbirdman

the proper resonse to Germany is you first.

remember this are ALL socialist based parliamentary governments. Germany and France have ignored the rules and now it is “do as I say not as I do.”

What are the betting pools on the date of the end of the euro and then the EU?


19 posted on 06/25/2012 9:57:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Savage Beast

Germany had and probably still has a very strong guest worker program. (IOW you can work in germany but must leave)

At this point all the eu has each other by the testicles. it is a circular firing squad. The rest of europe could decide to push germany around to the point where germany leaves the euro first.

The ENTIRE EU rescue is doomed to failure because it is based on the false assumption that socialism is a valid working political system.


20 posted on 06/25/2012 10:13:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Yes. The majority of Europeans and half the Americans are in denial about Marxism. They refuse to believe that it will not work. It requires an iron fisted dictatorship (or oligarchy) for its establishment and implementation, but, even then, it destroys the economy. Everywhere it has been tried, this has been proven.

Oh, okay. It'll work in a small country of homogeneous population and rigid immigration policies, like Sweden, but only because the economy is fueled by external capitalist economies.

The rest of Europe is probably foolish enough to push Germany to the breaking (away) point. After all--they are stupid enough to keep trying Marxism.

And note that the Germans, unlike the French, were sufficiently circumspect not to give their Gastarbeiter citizenship.

21 posted on 06/25/2012 12:08:29 PM PDT by Savage Beast (History is not just cruel. It's witty. --Charles Krauthammer)
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