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76 public radio stations would be at “high risk” if Congress de-funds public broadcasting.
taylor on radio-info ^ | 6/25/12 | Tom Taylor

Posted on 06/25/2012 6:50:29 AM PDT by raccoonradio

The toll on public television would also be harsh, says a new revenue analysis from Booz & Company presented in Washington DC. Booz says 54 public TV stations would be at high risk of shutting down, without revenue support from CPB. The outside experts looked at five alternative scenarios, including allowing public stations to accept some advertising. It decided that “a shift from a non-commercial model to a commercial advertising model would have dramatically negative consequences for many of the communities that public broadcasters serve.”

It observes that federal support has already shrunk by $50 million in the last two years, and that zeroing it out would produce “a cascading, debilitating effect.” The weaker stations serving small communities would go out first, followed by a possible “collapse of the system itself.” Booz says that “more than 60% of public television and radio stations are operating with budget deficits” now. Congress asked for this report from an impartial analyst. Read the Booz & Company study here


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 112th; bfd; defund; defundnpr; liberaltalkradio; npr; publictv; sowhat; theend; whocares
link to study--.pdf file

>> five alternative scenarios, including allowing public stations to accept some advertising.

Please do! Some of the sponsorship announcements look like ads anyway. What's wrong with "This rerun of Car Talk will be right back after this message from Fram Auto Filters?"

--In Boston there are two big NPR stations, WBUR (B.U.) and WGBH (public). Often they duplicate programming. WGBH--which has Taj Mahal studios, and I'm not talking about the jazz artist--is going to dump most of their jazz programming to air news/talk, reruns of shows from earlier in the day. Jazz fans, tough cookies. They dumped blues and folk a couple years back and put classical on a separate signal.

I don't want my taxpayer money going to NPR and PBS! Let them run ads. Let them make a bunch of money IF they can. If not, let them fail. As it is, they earn lots of $$ through listener donations, corporate giving, etc. Companies ranging from Angie's List to movie studios to credit card companies to "Fox Broadcasting Company" have donated to NPR. Now they are crying poormouth with the possibility of being defunded.

And then there's the bias. This is why Air America failed: who's gonna listen to moonbat stuff on small AM stations when you can get it on powerful FMs...taxpayer funded?

1 posted on 06/25/2012 6:50:39 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
D E F U N D 'E M!!!
2 posted on 06/25/2012 6:52:11 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: raccoonradio

Government should not be in business. Radio is a business.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 6:53:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Don Corleone

Maybe to be replaced with Rush?


4 posted on 06/25/2012 6:54:04 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: raccoonradio

The government has no business being in the radio business.
Period.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 6:54:08 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Vera the possum is US.)
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To: raccoonradio

“a shift from a non-commercial model to a commercial advertising model would have dramatically negative consequences for many of the communities that public broadcasters serve.”

...like what!? The libs that get thier “news” from PBS would have to “suffer” by listening to paid commercials? ALL public stations need to be put on alert that federal funding is over in say 6 months and they’ll have to learn how to actually EARN an income or go out of biz. Period.


6 posted on 06/25/2012 6:56:27 AM PDT by albie
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To: Carl LaFong

The government has no business being in the radio business.
Period.

Espechially when NPR is a propaganda arm of the d.n.c.


7 posted on 06/25/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Don Corleone

There should be a mandate and everyone should have to prove they listen to public radio by sending in a donation, based on income-level. Upon receipt of the donation a certificate would be mailed in six to eight weeks. This certificate would have to be included in all tax returns. Of course, the losers of life’s lottery would get theirs for free via a new entitlement. A new department of the fed could be created with an NPR-Czar to oversee the enforcement of the law. They would need an enforcement arm in the department, armed of course. Just think of all the jobs this would create! GO NPR!!


8 posted on 06/25/2012 6:58:00 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: raccoonradio
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE BABY SEALS?!!!!! Photobucket
9 posted on 06/25/2012 6:58:35 AM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: raccoonradio

My company is at risk, too! Give me money!!!

Government has no business operating businesses.


10 posted on 06/25/2012 7:01:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: raccoonradio

What, no more blitzes where we have to sit through 15 minutes, twice each hour, of people with inane chatter, or sitting idly by in the background waiting for a phone to ring? When what’s presented during these blitzes is usually the only redeeming programming on that channel throughout the year? And that’s why these are the only occasions I tune in? I won’t have to put up with that anymore? GOOD!


11 posted on 06/25/2012 7:02:34 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Don Corleone
D E F U N D 'E M!!!

The sooner the better...

12 posted on 06/25/2012 7:03:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: raccoonradio

“THEY WANT TO KILL BIG BIRD!”.......You know that’s coming....again.....and again......even though Sesame street makes untold hundreds of millions of dollars off their toys they sell as a result of their free advertising ride at taxpayer’s expense!

WE should demand HALF THE PROFITS from ALL Sesame Street toy sales! After all, WE helped pay for them!..........


13 posted on 06/25/2012 7:05:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Huskrrrr
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE BABY SEALS?!!!!! And the millionaires that got that way sucking at the PBS/NPR public teet.
14 posted on 06/25/2012 7:06:01 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: raccoonradio

So?

Sell them a turn and drain on the public coffers into something that generates revenue.

The Sierra Club would have the same opportunity to buy them as Clear Channel Communications.

People forget that public broadcasting originated back in the 1960's when choices and formats were severely limited. That has not been the case in over 30 years.

Jim Lehrer and his cronies could offer themselves as a dinosaur exhibit in a natural history museum.

15 posted on 06/25/2012 7:06:14 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: raccoonradio

First, they told us, “No need to cut off funding, it’s only a small percentage of their gross, anyway”.

Now, when it looks like Obama will lose and Republicans might control the House and Senate, they tell us they’ll go under.


16 posted on 06/25/2012 7:07:03 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: albie

I remember when the comics used to call ‘PBS’ the Petroleum Broadcasting System. But since they no longer ‘contribute’ in the way they did in the 70’s, so-called ‘Public Broadcasting’ has changed from ‘educational’ to ‘propaganda’................


17 posted on 06/25/2012 7:08:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: fatnotlazy; All

Exactly. As a matter of fact the first episode of WKRP in Cincinnati said just that. Young Andy Travis is hired to be
new program director of a sleepy elevator music station, and changes the format to rock n roll.

Mrs Carlson (station owner): Young man, this radio station is a business. It is not here for your personal listening pleasure.

Andy: Ma’am, I know it’s a business. That’s why I had no choice but to change the station’s format


That’s just it. It IS a business. Notice all the news, talk,
and sports stations going on FM? People want to hear FM.
Better signals...and radio companies believe in “time spent listening”. Which would they rather have for their advertisers:

—Songs, people tune in or out
—Talk about hot topics—PEOPLE STAY TUNED!

Even public radio is a business. Some call them National
Profit Radio. I saw an article that talked about a “decline in advertising for public radio”. Wha...decline in ADVERTISING? For NON COMMERCIAL RADIO?

Guess what...they may not run 30 second spots but they do have advertisers. Those sponsorship messages sure sound like ads. “Clifford the Big Red Dog...made possible by a donation from Kellogg’s”. And you see images not much
different from TV ads.

Now let them run ads the way the other stations do (allow them). If they succeed, fine, if they fail, fine. As the old blues song goes, public TV and radio, “Get your hand out of my pocket/ Ain’t nothin’ there that belongs to you.”


18 posted on 06/25/2012 7:09:19 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Don Corleone

D E F U N D ‘E M!!!
D E F U N D ‘E M!!!
D E F U N D ‘E M!!!

(bears repeating)


19 posted on 06/25/2012 7:10:28 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: albie

I think some states like Maine and New Jersey (Republican governors) have made efforts to defund or sell off their
public radio/state-run stations! Paul Lepage. Chris Christie.


20 posted on 06/25/2012 7:10:40 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Red Badger
“THEY WANT TO KILL BIG BIRD!”

Sounds good to me...


21 posted on 06/25/2012 7:14:29 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: samtheman

Agreed.

If the CPB feels that they need Federal funding, then Fox and C-Span deserve federal funding as well.


22 posted on 06/25/2012 7:14:29 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: raccoonradio
"What's wrong with "This rerun of Car Talk will be right back after this message from Fram Auto Filters?"

Precisely. I worked in the LA area in a previous life and love classical music. I found a commercial classical music station to keep me company on my commute to work. There were ads for mutual funds, BMW's and luxury vacations I could never have afforded on the clerk's salary I was earning at the time, but those who did were obviously preferred listening to these ads over NPR's version of classical music with left-wing propaganda in place of the ads.

23 posted on 06/25/2012 7:14:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: raccoonradio
76 public radio stations would be at “high risk” if Congress de-funds public broadcasting.

I fail to see the downside here.

24 posted on 06/25/2012 7:21:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: raccoonradio
Risk of going under? Of course there's a risk. You have the highest operating overhead in NPR affiliated stations - A couple years ago, the salaries at KCET were leaked, and low and behold, for a tenth of the viewership of any of the major television stations in Los Angeles, their salaries were second.

The local NPR radio station also had their salaries leaked, and staff salaries were higher than any comparable station in California, just edging out another NPR station in San Francisco, about 20% higher than a NPR station in Sacramento, and 65% higher than any other radio station with a similar listener size.

‘Mix in a bit of private advertising dollars’? Yeah, not going to fix the issue. What advertiser is going to look at a NPR rate card, realize that they'll be paying three to four times the going rate of any other station with similar demographics, and still go through with the deal?

NPR and PBS have problems ONLY because their employees are acting like good government drones and embezzling all the money away. Through high benefits packages, high salaries, and of course, it doesn't end, because they offer high retirement packages as well.

They'll never dig their way out of the hole they've put themselves in; ‘cutting off’ public funding will only hasten the demise - but there's only one place public radio and public TV is destined to go: Into bankruptcy.

25 posted on 06/25/2012 7:26:19 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: raccoonradio
That’s just it. It IS a business. Notice all the news, talk, and sports stations going on FM? People want to hear FM.

There's a slightly odd phenomenon I have recently noticed.

First, talk radio on FM sounds strange to my ears. Those ears have gotten used to the restricted audio of AM, and it takes some effort to get used to the way that talk show hosts sound in high fidelity.

Second, there's almost an opposite effect, at least for me, with classical music. If you listen to classical/concert broadcasting, you get used to hearing it on FM. Throughout my life, 99% of my music listening (and occasional broadcasting) has been that way.

I have recently been working in a city that has a classical station that transmits on AM (daytime only) and on FM (low-power, fulltime). In my car, I often listen to the AM side, with its restricted fidelity.

I ask myself why. Perhaps it's the novelty. Perhaps because of the compressed dynamic range, you can hear soft passages better in the car. Perhaps it is a recognition that it is the only way classical music was heard on the radio, for a generation. Perhaps it's even the subtle impression that this music is coming from a place far away, and is being heard far and wide, which sentiment is a comfort to a lover of classical music.

26 posted on 06/25/2012 7:30:10 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Huskrrrr

“WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE BABY SEALS?!!!!!”

Seal veal. Seal McNuggets? There’s always Thermal depolymerization. Put them in the gas tank.


27 posted on 06/25/2012 7:30:30 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: raccoonradio

Nikki H. tried to kill off public TV here but enough libs and RINO’s managed to barely save it.

I won’t miss it and almost never watched it, even when I worked in the plantation called SCETV’s Record Room that it became in the last few years I was there.

Between all the cable channels, netflix, youtube, and internet choices, public TV has long since had its day.

From what I hear from who is still around, there is little if any in house production of any kind. No doubt a lot of space and equipment is sitting idle.

When I left a few years ago, there were maybe 400 statewide. There might be 100+.


28 posted on 06/25/2012 7:36:15 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Vigilanteman
Speaking (a bit more) about classical music broadcast stations, the only slight gripe I have about the commercial ones is the form of the, well, commercials.

Most of them run canned commercials, and they often have some inane jingle for a bed; as if they were produced for other, non-classical outlets in the same market.

The only thing that restrains them is the demographics of their sponsors. At least you don't hear BMW spots being done by shouters over death-metal like you do, say, for Chevy/GMC.

Among the stations I have listened to that get it right on the nose for their listener demographics is WFMT from Chicago. No jingles, all live copy from the announcer on duty. Maybe they now have recorded ads, but at least it sounds like an announcer on duty. No jingles, low key. For investment houses, high-end restaurants and furnishing shops, and so forth.

29 posted on 06/25/2012 7:43:03 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: raccoonradio

Public radio is not so essential to our national cohesion that we must borrow money from China to fund it.

Further, no cause of the left (er, now “progressive”) is similarly important. We must defund the left at every possible opportunity. They are parasites on the productive part of the economy.


30 posted on 06/25/2012 7:45:15 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Erasmus

1. take away NPR’s tax exempt status to advertisers. (yes they do have ads)

2. forbid government agencies and local governments from spending federal money to advertise on NPR stations.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 7:48:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: raccoonradio

Booz says that “more than 60% of public television and radio stations are operating with budget deficits” now.

...and I counter: Just how can this be? Someone is paying the bills and I have a confirmed suspicion I know just who that someone is.


32 posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:14 AM PDT by wita
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To: raccoonradio
National Proletariat Radio can't go away fast enough.
33 posted on 06/25/2012 7:57:45 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: wita

Soros paid for hundreds of NPR reporters...


34 posted on 06/25/2012 7:57:45 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: longtermmemmory

And a recent court decision allowed pol. candidates to advertise on public radio...not a product


35 posted on 06/25/2012 7:59:12 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Vigilanteman

In Boston longtime classical station WCRB, which was commercial, was bought by public broadcaster WGBH—who took it non-commercial. They figured they’d do better with
ind. donations and sponsorships.

http://www.wgbh.org/995/

>>Support Classical New England
Make your voice heard.
Donate now


36 posted on 06/25/2012 8:01:20 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: kingu
A couple years ago, the salaries at KCET were leaked, and low and behold, for a tenth of the viewership of any of the major television stations in Los Angeles, their salaries were second.

NPR has two main reasons for existing: (1) spew out the Leftist line on issues, and (2) provide high-paying jobs for Leftists. Same deal with may 501(c) "non-profits". Wealthy parents can give them money tax-free, and they hire the kids at high pay. A nice inter-generational wealth transfer scheme.

37 posted on 06/25/2012 8:01:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: wally_bert
Between all the cable channels, netflix, youtube, and internet choices, public TV has long since had its day.

It's also a reason why classical/jazz is disappearing. Why listen to the radio, when your iPhone/Android/mp3-player can be jacked in to your car audio system, and provide you with hours of commercial-free music that is not dependent on reception?

38 posted on 06/25/2012 8:10:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: raccoonradio
The minute the subsidies go away this little theifdom folds!!!
39 posted on 06/25/2012 8:13:54 AM PDT by ontap
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To: raccoonradio

DEFUND them. I’m tired of commie propaganda being paid for with MY tax money.


40 posted on 06/25/2012 8:20:19 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: kingu
Just as an aside on Sesame Street: The entire program could be sold for a tidy sum to NHK (Japan's public broadcast network). The program has a significant following there because the cutesy characters and the basic understandable level of English connects with a much wider audience than it does in America.

NHK does not pay astronomical salaries. In fact the joke is that it stands for Nihon Hosoi Kuryo (Japan's thin salary) rather than Nihon Hoso Kyokai (Japan Broadcasting Association). It is financed through a television tax.

41 posted on 06/25/2012 8:24:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CodeToad

so simple to solve- let them sell air time to advertisers-


42 posted on 06/25/2012 8:57:48 AM PDT by mriguy67
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To: CodeToad

so simple to solve- let them sell air time to advertisers-


43 posted on 06/25/2012 8:57:54 AM PDT by mriguy67
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To: raccoonradio

It’s a jobs program. Public radio has very few employees who could cut it in the private sector so far as I can tell.


44 posted on 06/25/2012 9:10:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: raccoonradio

If it were truly public broadcasting, and not Upper West Side Broadcasting, they’d be subsidizing NASCAR and soap operas. Let the swells pay for their own opera and lousy British comedy and global warming scare stories.


45 posted on 06/25/2012 9:15:29 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: BuffaloJack

But but, how are supposed to know what the enemy is up to?

Here everything is brought to us on silver platter.

Maybe the price is steep, but once the commissars will go underground and start “organizing communities”, price of pacification can be even greater.

Just say n’


46 posted on 06/25/2012 9:24:03 AM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: raccoonradio

So what if we lose 76 PBS stations? They won’t be missed in a sea of liberal media outlets.


47 posted on 06/25/2012 10:55:29 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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