Leadership !
Posted on 06/25/2012 8:49:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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ALLEN WEST!
ALLEN WEST!
Sorry, Bobby Jindal is not a NBC.
Nor is Marko Rubio.
Does anyone at the RNC or in the Media care about the Constitution. Yes, they care, but only to destroy it.
Bumpity Bumpity BUMP!
I guess George is planning to invoke the Obama precedent to make Bobby Jindal a natural born citizen.
TS
IMO George Will is just another Lefist enabling talking head.
Him announcing support for someone is the kiss of death for me.
Expect Bill Krystal to jump on this in short order, saying the same thing.
GAK!
And I’ve had a generally favorable view of Jindal. Of course I’m always open to view new information that might impact that thought negatively. Will’s opinion certainly causes me to do a double-take.
Don’t be fooled. Will is going with him not in spite of the fact that he is an NBC, but BECAUSE he is an NBC.
Not an NBC???? I suggest a more careful reading of the 14th amendment is in order. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws....”
errrr — add two ‘not’s.
NBC is a convenient boogieman for dimwits and loons...
RE: BECAUSE he is an NBC.
Does Bobby Jindal meet the requirements for being NBC?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
But even this does not get specific enough regarding the term “Natural Born”. The 14th amendment only talks about who is a citizen, NOT who is a natural born citizen.
So, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law - the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was “declared” to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms “natural-born” or “citizen at birth” are missing from this section.
Leadership !
I don’t see what that 14th Amendment clause has to do with anything.
FWIW I think he is eligible, else Obama would have been thrown out in one of these court cases, just don’t see how the 14th is relevant.
RE: 14th Amendment
Even this does not get specific enough regarding the term “Natural Born”. The 14th amendment only talks about who is a citizen, NOT who is a natural born citizen.
See post #11 — forgot my “not”s
It’s time to get a conservative in. Allen West.
Good guy, but isn’t he ineligible for the same reason (non-NBC) as Obama?
If George Will wants Jindal, there must be something hugh and series wrong with him. George Will hasn’t been a conservative since sometime in 80’s, I think.
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