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Obama orders feds not to cooperate with Arizona regarding reporting illegals
Rush Limbaugh Show (live) | 6/25/12 | Limbaugh

Posted on 06/25/2012 11:55:05 AM PDT by pabianice

Just announced on Rush. On the heels of today's SCOTUS decision regarding Arizona's border protection law, Napalitano (Obama) has just notified Arizona that the federal government/ICE/DHS has been ordered not to cooperate with AZ regarding the reporting of illegals stopped in AZ.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; aliens; antiamericanism; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; invasion; nationalsecurity; notbreakingnews; oathofoffice; obamalegacy; reconquista; sedition; thugpolitics; treason; unfitforoffice; vanity
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To: meyer
Hmmm...Another decade, another GOP judge goes full commie.

Won't be surprised if this latest scumbag turncoat, Roberts, joins the other commies to rule in favor of deathcare...

51 posted on 06/25/2012 12:35:42 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Terry Mross
If the SC said AZ cannot enforce federal law, why can’t AZ refuse to enforce ALL federal laws?

good idea. what fed laws does Ariz enforce?

52 posted on 06/25/2012 12:36:13 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: pabianice

So much for the idea that all agencies working together would make this country safer after 9/11. This would be astonishing if any other administration had taken this action, but nothing surprises me with this group.

If Arizona gathers up terrorists on the border, the feds won’t cooperate and no one will know. Just peachy.


53 posted on 06/25/2012 12:36:39 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: pabianice

The solution to illegal immigration is simple.

Show the dead corpses of American citizens when illegals slaughter them.

Force all media outlets, by law, to publish uncensored photos and videos of the carnage, every broadcast, every front page, every day.

If they refuse, arrest them, charge them treason and crimes against humanity, shut down their papers and broadcast stations.

Problem solved.


54 posted on 06/25/2012 12:37:42 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: Principled

The only real issue I see for Arizona going it on their own would be air traffic control.

Do the feds shut down air traffic control to and from Arizona?


55 posted on 06/25/2012 12:38:36 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: DoughtyOne

“This guy is in desperate need of impeachment.”


Yes, should be pretty clear now to most that he’s a wannabe dictator who has no regard for checks and balances or the Constitution.


56 posted on 06/25/2012 12:39:49 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: wolficatZ

I don’t want to see that. I want a more free and open press, not a more left wing government controlled one.


57 posted on 06/25/2012 12:41:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: pabianice
OTOH, this may give AZ to Romney.

Yeah, Romney's going to be sooooooooooo much better.

lol. I saw on a thread this morning where someone said that Romney could win the election hands down by saying that he'll only appoint conservatives to the SCOTUS.

ROFL! Some people posting on FR are SERIOUSLY delusional!

58 posted on 06/25/2012 12:41:30 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: willgolfforfood

Just bus them to every solid blue state. Start with NY, and Maryland.


59 posted on 06/25/2012 12:43:00 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Starboard

I agree.


60 posted on 06/25/2012 12:43:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: Starboard

61 posted on 06/25/2012 12:43:33 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: pabianice

Every state in the union should arrest and jail every federal official and employee. All of same should be deported to Washington DC.


62 posted on 06/25/2012 12:43:57 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: pabianice

Can we now all agree the Obama and his gaggle of appointees MUST GO in November?


63 posted on 06/25/2012 12:44:26 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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To: pabianice; All

Just read this a.m. on PRAVDA, Soros has switched his money to Romney’s election.

Man!!! Do I feel comfortable with that!!! (sarc)

I really hate Romney.


64 posted on 06/25/2012 12:45:42 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Walrus
Who is going to be the first member of Congress to publicly call for impeachment?

Joe Wilson, RIGHTFULLY, called the SOB a liar, and he was censured. You don't seriously believe anyone in congress has the backbone or gonads to call for impeachment of the kenyan do you?

65 posted on 06/25/2012 12:47:18 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Starboard
Obama epitomizes the Blame & Envy Cocktail, the demagogues path to power & terror, from Robespierre, through Lenin, Hitler, Castro, et al..

It is no accident that he was tutored by avowed Marxist revolutionaries; no accident that he has deliberately aped Hitler's crowd in-citation techniques. Nor should anyone overlook the purport of the rash of radical Executive Orders, that the demagogue has recently issued, just because they have not yet been employed. The situation grows increasingly grave.

William Flax [Continuity, not "Diversity"]

66 posted on 06/25/2012 12:47:18 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Principled

Go commit a felony and you’ll find out what federal laws local and state cops enforce.


67 posted on 06/25/2012 12:48:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: pabianice

And aside from hearing this from Rush, you won’t hear one more word about it.
On a side note-—
I was listening to Tom Martino on the radio today. A woman called in and said she was in this country from Mexico legally, but she could not vote. She went in to renew her drivers license and three times the woman at the DMV asked her about the little box on a Colo DL about voting. The woman caller said she told the clerk she can’t vote and the clerk kept saying “ Do you want to ?” I got the impression that once you have this little voter box checked, you could probably go in to vote and use that to verify that the state recognizes you as a voter. She thinks it should be investigated. I agree.


68 posted on 06/25/2012 12:49:55 PM PDT by Xyz22 (Snakebit again)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Maybe Soros decided that Obama is too big a commie for even him? Or, Soros just saw the handwriting on the wall and is trying to buy some influence.

Romney would be a fool to ever have dealings with the Austrian Troll. Take his money through 3rd party, then ignore him.


69 posted on 06/25/2012 12:51:10 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: pabianice

If Sherriff Joe locks them up for 30 to 60 days everytime they get caught a lot of them will go to California and other states. Arizona can resist Calforniaization.


70 posted on 06/25/2012 12:51:18 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

“Yeah, Romney’s going to be sooooooooooo much better.”

Ok, stay the f*ck home and help O waltz into another 4 years, then.

It is FAR past time for some of you to stop acting like this “Romney is going to be the same” line is really making you sound soooooooo uber-conservative.

You do (((((anything)))) to help this bastard, you might as well get an Obama bumper sticker for your car.


71 posted on 06/25/2012 12:53:04 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Xyz22

Motor voter was set up by the democrats and ACORN as a vote fraud mechanism.


72 posted on 06/25/2012 12:54:14 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: pabianice

Obama is going all-in for the Hispanic vote.

He’s written off whites, is willing to take his chances losing a few disgruntled blacks who see illegals in their job market, and will try to ride his other special interest groups (unions, trial lawyers, jews, homosexuals, etc.) to a win in November.

It can’t work. Obama will lose in a landslide.


73 posted on 06/25/2012 12:55:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Even Soros sees that the handwriting on the wall is a check mark by Romney’s name in November, so he wants to buy a friend.


74 posted on 06/25/2012 12:55:37 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: pabianice

Illegals compete with the demographic the DNC claims needs the most help.


75 posted on 06/25/2012 12:55:45 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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To: pabianice
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

(a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

Can 1324(a)(1)(A)(ii) "Any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law" be applied to a local police officer who conducts a traffic stop and finds a driver of a car (who may be an illegal) who has other people in the car as passengers (who are illegal) under the "transports" clause?

In other words, could Arizona police officers (under the definition of "any person who" be held in violation of this law by not detaining someone they suspect to be in violation of the above clause?

(c) Authority to arrest

No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests for a violation of any provision of this section except officers and employees of the Service designated by the Attorney General, either individually or as a member of a class, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Does "all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws" refer to state and local police officers?

Back to 1226...

(3) Upon the request of the governor or chief executive officer of any State, the Service shall provide assistance to State courts in the identification of aliens unlawfully present in the United States pending criminal prosecution.

The governor has the power to request the federal government to assist in the determination of immigration status of detained suspects.

So, Federal law allows for Arizona police to detain suspected illegal aliens pending ICE review.

The Governor can request federal support in determining the status of detainees.

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part IV > § 1226 (Apprehension and detention of aliens) says:

(d) Identification of criminal aliens
(1) The Attorney General shall devise and implement a system—
(A) to make available, daily (on a 24-hour basis), to Federal, State, and local authorities the investigative resources of the Service to determine whether individuals arrested by such authorities for aggravated felonies are aliens;
(B) to designate and train officers and employees of the Service to serve as a liaison to Federal, State, and local law enforcement and correctional agencies and courts with respect to the arrest, conviction, and release of any alien charged with an aggravated felony; and
(C) which uses computer resources to maintain a current record of aliens who have been convicted of an aggravated felony, and indicates those who have been removed.
(2) The record under paragraph (1)(C) shall be made available—
(A) to inspectors at ports of entry and to border patrol agents at sector headquarters for purposes of immediate identification of any alien who was previously ordered removed and is seeking to reenter the United States, and
(B) to officials of the Department of State for use in its automated visa lookout system.
(3) Upon the request of the governor or chief executive officer of any State, the Service shall provide assistance to State courts in the identification of aliens unlawfully present in the United States pending criminal prosecution.

The federal code requires that the Attorney General create a database of legal immigrants that local law enforcement can call upon for verification of suspected illegal immigrants. The local law enforcement would not access this database directly, but would go through a liaison within the Justice Department. The federal code says that the Justice Department is to make this system available on a 24-hour basis.

-PJ

76 posted on 06/25/2012 12:56:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every such divisive move creates more chips of anti-Obama electorate and fights against a consolidated support for him. Romney has got to be grinning from ear to ear just thinking about it.


77 posted on 06/25/2012 12:57:30 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: pabianice

Time to party like it’s 1862


78 posted on 06/25/2012 12:58:18 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: VanDeKoik

Extreme agree moment here with what you said!

“Ok, stay the f*ck home and help O waltz into another 4 years, then.

It is FAR past time for some of you to stop acting like this “Romney is going to be the same” line is really making you sound soooooooo uber-conservative.

You do (((((anything)))) to help this bastard, you might as well get an Obama bumper sticker for your car.”


79 posted on 06/25/2012 12:59:19 PM PDT by Kratos
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To: VanDeKoik
Romney sucks no matter how much you swear at me.

Care to point out to me how he differs from Obama on say, abortion, gay rights, health care, immigration or global warming?

Rotsa frickin ruck.

80 posted on 06/25/2012 12:59:29 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: Ohioan; All
"You do not sit in the pews of a Church for twenty years, where the Minister "damns" America, and White Americans in particular, if you do not hate America & the Americans."


81 posted on 06/25/2012 1:00:15 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: VanDeKoik

It’s a crying irony when the best virtue of a candidate (like Mitt) is the fact that he waffles! (Barack generally doesn’t. He’s a near purist at socialism.)


82 posted on 06/25/2012 1:00:46 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Mitt waffles; Obama doesn’t.

Mighty lean pickings, but America is truly in a “survival” situation. This is not a vacation at some posh resort.


83 posted on 06/25/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

I have 4 YEARS of Obama as quasi-dictator. I have ZERO years of Romney as president.

But by dawn’s early light Romney is ALREADY worse or the same as Obama, so let’s stay home in November and just tip-tap away scorn from our keyboards at the White House as he goes even further down the hole? FOR WHAT?? So you can feel damn proud that you showed Romney a thing or two?

And tell me how you plan on defeating Obama at the same time. That part of the “plan” has been sketchy from some of you.


84 posted on 06/25/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Arizona just needs to start arresting them and putting them on a bus back over the border and daring Obama to stop them with force. He is INTENTIONALLY refusing the enforce the laws he took an oath to uphold (impeachable offense BTW). Obama just declared war and Arizona should treat it as such.

Absolutely true! If only Repubs would act in such a courageous fashion. Even though I like Gov Brewer, she will never do this, nor would any other Repub governor. As much as I hate 0dumb0, I must admit, the commie pig in chief has got a pair of balls when it comes to defying laws or rulings that he doesn't agree with. Ohhhhh for Repubs to exercise the same type of balls & chutzpah!

85 posted on 06/25/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: DoughtyOne

Federal agents are armed only at the discretion or pleasure of the various county sheriffs. Revocation of privileges and confiscation of arms is in order.


86 posted on 06/25/2012 1:08:30 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Arizona just needs to start arresting them and putting them on a bus back over the border and daring Obama to stop them with force. He is INTENTIONALLY refusing the enforce the laws he took an oath to uphold (impeachable offense BTW). Obama just declared war and Arizona should treat it as such.

Great idea but Mexico will refuse to let the bus take them into Mexico. The bus will have to leave them off on the American side of the border. Perhaps Sheriff Joe could get them to promise they will cross back into Mexico under their own steam.

87 posted on 06/25/2012 1:09:12 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: VanDeKoik
It was your assumption that i wasn't going to vote for him. Not mine.

I'll vote for the sob but this is the last liberal I'll vote for as a Republican.

Immediately after I pull the lever for Romney, I'm leaving the republican party. They can no longer consider my vote guaranteed if Romney, who's a liberal who couldn't win as a liberal so had to run as a Republican, is the best the Republican Party can do.

End of discussion.

88 posted on 06/25/2012 1:09:35 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: pabianice

There the Buttwipe goes again! The Highest ranking Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist in Chief rules that HE WILL IGNORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT RULING ON IMMIGRATION!! and do what he damn well pleases! Hugo Chavez move o er, Obama Hussein is showing his true colors and wants to make YOU look like the Amateur!


89 posted on 06/25/2012 1:10:27 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
“Care to point out to me how he differs from Obama on say, abortion, gay rights, health care, immigration or global warming?”
_________________________________________________

Care to point out why Romney is FOR tax cuts, oil exploration/drilling, supporting our allies (namely Israel and Great Britain), supporting our troops while Obama ISN'T??

You folks who push the “Romney is the same as Obama” crap sound like classic DUmmies!

90 posted on 06/25/2012 1:10:27 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: pabianice

There the Buttwipe goes again! The Highest ranking Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist in Chief rules that HE WILL IGNORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT RULING ON IMMIGRATION!! and do what he damn well pleases! Hugo Chavez move o er, Obama Hussein is showing his true colors and wants to make YOU look like the Amateur!


91 posted on 06/25/2012 1:10:56 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: VanDeKoik; HeartlandOfAmerica
Obama has shown that he will work alone. He will run over Congress, the Judicial Branch and the states.

I could be wrong, but I don't see Romney doing that. He works with what he has within the law. That is his upbringing. It is everything we know about his well documented and squeaky clean history.

If we can get many more conservatives into the House and Senate, Romney will go along.

Can you say that about Obama? Yes? No?

92 posted on 06/25/2012 1:11:42 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Preferably in the area that the feds have labeled a “no-go zone”. (ceded to the drug cartels)


93 posted on 06/25/2012 1:12:34 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: wolficatZ

I’m sure the beheadings and such would make lovely viewing as people are watching “Idol” or whatever...


94 posted on 06/25/2012 1:15:07 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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95 posted on 06/25/2012 1:15:23 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: pabianice

Seems rather gratuitous. SCOTUS just kicked all the teeth in AZ in, so nobody can even check anyway.


96 posted on 06/25/2012 1:15:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: kitchen

Suits me just fine in Arizona right now.

The president basically just declared a smoldering war on Arizona, on behalf of Mexico.


97 posted on 06/25/2012 1:15:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: dennisw

I really like the idea of dropping them off along the border in a remote region with enough food and water to make it to a Mexican City. Point them the way and give them a cheap gps. If they go 100 miles back into the USA, pick them up and put them back. They will give up after a try or two and then go home.


98 posted on 06/25/2012 1:15:49 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta; raccoonnookkeeper

All these political crooks are for sale to include Romney.

Never ever will they pull his U.S. citizenship and tell him to go to hell and to jail. They are all bought.


99 posted on 06/25/2012 1:18:14 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: FreeAtlanta
“If we can get many more conservatives into the House and Senate, Romney will go along.

Can you say that about Obama? Yes? No?”
______________________________________________

NO, they can't!

Do you also find it strange that these folks, even after what's happened today with the DHS, still have MORE contempt Romney than Obama? WTF!

These “Romney is the same as Obama” folks are coming completely unglued. I would expect to see these types of ideas pushed over at DU, but not here.

100 posted on 06/25/2012 1:18:29 PM PDT by Artcore
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