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What Happened to the Tea Party? (New York Slimes Opinion Pages 'Room For Debate')
New York Times ^ | June 20, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 06/25/2012 2:02:31 PM PDT by lbryce

In 2010, the Tea Party was all the rage. Pundits were speculating on what effect the movement would have on state and federal elections. But we are well into the presidential campaign season, the conventions are just around the corner, and yet the Tea Party is strangely silent.

What happened to the movement? Have its “goals and values” been absorbed into the G.O.P.? Or was it always the Republican Party in disguise?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: newyorkslimes; teaparty
The Slimes, in their inherently inimical way headlines the subject of the Tea Party in this article more in the form of an obituary than anything else. Notwithstanding the source, analysis of this forum, the political whereabouts, status of the Tea Party is a legitimate concern, topic for us all and would very much want to hear what FReepers have to say on this subject.
1 posted on 06/25/2012 2:02:41 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

They are going to have enough TEA to drown in come November.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 2:08:13 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: lbryce

Ask Gov Walker of Wisconsin:)


3 posted on 06/25/2012 2:08:32 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

“Ask Gov Walker of Wisconsin:)”

Yes, reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 2:10:43 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: lbryce

Tea Party people know their power comes from the voting booth. They are quietly waiting for their chance to vote Obama and many other Democrats out of office.

The time for talk is over. Polling shows very few undecided voters. Turnout is the key to the fall election. Tea Partiers don’t need more rallies, we are ready to do our duty in November.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 2:10:52 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: lbryce

Maybe the New York Slimes might ask, “How many candidates has the OWS astrotruf gotten pass the primaries?” As far as I know, there have been none.


6 posted on 06/25/2012 2:11:42 PM PDT by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: lbryce

I think the Times has a point; I’m willing to bet there are entire areas of Manhattan where the Tea Party is all but nonexistent. I would expect that sort of coverage from a local paper like the Times.


7 posted on 06/25/2012 2:20:39 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: lbryce
To me, the Tea "Party" was, is, and ever shall be a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.

We will know we have won when the platforms and statements coming out or the GOP mirror the TEA attitudes on issues.

As usual, the Opposition and their supporting Enemedia will entirely fail to get it and will assume the Tea Party is moribund.

8 posted on 06/25/2012 2:22:49 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now, or something.)
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To: lbryce
One mistake certain pundits make is even trying to analyze the strength of the Tea Party.

Although there are "brick and mortar" Tea Party groups out there, IMO most T.P.ers are under the radar as far as being analyzed and counted. Those big gatherings in DC and elsewhere prior to Obamacare might have represented 10% or fewer of Tea Partiers due to distance or schedule. No one, including the NYT, can know the strength of this movement.

My guess is that those POed folks haven't gone anywhere, but are biding their time (as someone said upthread) waiting to vote in November.

9 posted on 06/25/2012 2:30:45 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: ExGeeEye
To me, the Tea "Party" was, is, and ever shall be a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.

The relationship between the Republican Party and the Tea Party is like a tiger and someone riding it. The tiger might go in the right direction if you hit it hard enough, but it will always be resentful and turn on you the second you loosen hold on its reins.

Getting rid of Lugar gave the tiger a big smack in the head and it snarled quite a bit about it.

10 posted on 06/25/2012 2:32:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: ExGeeEye

To me, the Tea “Party” was, is, and ever shall be a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.
We will know we have won when the platforms and statements coming out or the GOP mirror the TEA attitudes on issues.

As usual, the Opposition and their supporting Enemedia will entirely fail to get it and will assume the Tea Party is moribund.


Problem is look what Romney did in MA. He might be for free markets, but keep studying him and you will be surprised. (Don’t tell anyone I told you to look into who Romney reall is. The GOP, several establishment people and Romney himself, wants to TELL you who he is. Don’t look behind the curtain) I’m praying for a miracle at the convention.

The Tea Party movement is a grassroots movement of millions of like-minded Americans from all backgrounds and political parties. Tea Party members share similar core principles supporting the United States Constitution as the Founders intended, such as:
•  Limited federal government
•  Individual freedoms
•  Personal responsibility
•  Free markets
•  Returning political power to the states and the people

As a movement, The Tea Party is not a political party nor is looking to form a third political party any time soon. The Tea Party movement, is instead, about reforming all political parties and government so that the core principles of our Founding Fathers become, once again, the foundation upon which America stands.


11 posted on 06/25/2012 2:34:40 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: ExGeeEye
To me, the Tea "Party" was, is, and ever shall be a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.

I agree, but I would add "a hostile takeover by the party's own rank and file". The GOP has a schizophrenic quality due to the fact that the party professionals and the party's rank and file only barely agree philosophically. The party professionals tolerate the membership because they need their votes, but they don't respect them. The membership have put up with this for decades, expecting things to get better next election, and finally lost patience after seeing conservatives frozen out in 2008, and O steam-rolling the country with the GOP establishment unable to offer any resistance whatever.

Most press discussions seem to miss this: the Tea Party is essentially the GOP members tired of being used. Their anger was directed as much at the GOP establishment as much as it ever was at Obama and his gang. We expect Dems to be against us; we're tired of having to fight our own party establishment too.

12 posted on 06/25/2012 2:37:04 PM PDT by marron
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To: lbryce

Once again, the SLIMES validate my tagline. Thank.
Virtually EVERY Tea Party follower I know is in a situation known as “gainfully employed”. Those momentarily “out of work” are busy seeking their next job.
Tea Partiers have no time for sit-ins, camp-ins, sleep-ins, disruptive protests, professional whining, screeching impossible demands, and hating the world.
Their idea of “activism” is putting a mark on a sheet of paper, called the BALLOT.
I believe the PEN is mightier than the LOUD MOUTH.


13 posted on 06/25/2012 2:37:58 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: lbryce
The NY Times doesn't see the Tea Party now, yet it is there.

The NY Times did not see the Tea Party in November, 2010, yet it was there, as the electoral gutters ran red with blood of slaughtered liberal Democrats.

The NY Times will not see the Tea Party in November 2012, yet it will be there to decide the election. But the NYT will not see it.

The NYT will once again miss the greatest political news story of the past thirty years, all because it was right there in front of them, and they simply could not see it.
14 posted on 06/25/2012 2:38:08 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Yes. It’s like the NYT is saying The Tide Has Gone Out; Ocean Not As Strong As This Morning.


15 posted on 06/25/2012 2:38:25 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: lbryce

The TEA party has gotten down to the business of governing. The liberals should try that some time.


16 posted on 06/25/2012 2:39:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Never fear, we’re still here.

A slumbering giant has been roused, and is by no means ready to fall back into sleep. Too much more to do, and only a limited window of time in which to get it done.

The activism need not be loud or flashy, it need only pass from one to another, and keep the faith that the right thing will be done.

And if by some mischance, the effort to turn back the tide of lawless behavior at high levels fails for now, just keep on taking down the record of the high crimes and misdemeanors, until such time as these matters may be dealt with in a summary manner.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 2:41:05 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: Milton Miteybad
But the NYT will not see it.

Along with the entire NBC Network. (Don't these corporations have stockholders anymore...?)
18 posted on 06/25/2012 2:41:28 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: lbryce

To the NY Times, you’re not a real movement unless you throw rocks, light fires or shit on a sidewalk.


19 posted on 06/25/2012 2:42:06 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: lbryce

Don’t worry slimes. You’ll hear from us in November when we kick the dictator fraud out of the people’s White House.


20 posted on 06/25/2012 2:43:52 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: dead

...police car.


21 posted on 06/25/2012 2:44:33 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Linda Frances
Tea Party members share similar core principles supporting the United States Constitution as the Founders intended, such as: • Limited federal government • Individual freedoms • Personal responsibility • Free markets • Returning political power to the states and the people

You describe my political philosophy exactly. That, and most of the party rank and file I would like to believe.

The party professionals, though, are content to be Discount Dems; always ready to pass the Dem agenda, just cutting the rate of growth a couple percent. I'm tired of our party being the Discount Dem Party. Whatever they're for, we just want to knock a couple of percentage points off the rate of increase. Thats it. Don't ask the GOP grandees to get into any deep discussion beyond tax cuts. Ask them for a moral or philosophical argument and you just embarrass them.

22 posted on 06/25/2012 2:46:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: lbryce

“What happened to the (Tea Party) movement?”

Is this the NY Slimes? Two words: Dick Lugar.


23 posted on 06/25/2012 2:48:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Milton Miteybad
"..as the electoral gutters ran red with blood of slaughtered liberal Democrats.

+1 for that turn of phrase. Well done.

24 posted on 06/25/2012 2:52:52 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: katiedidit1

I cannot believe there are so many people here who are not aware how much the TP had to do with the Walker victory as well as the other recall candidates victory in WI.


25 posted on 06/25/2012 2:54:58 PM PDT by scram2
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To: lbryce
“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War


26 posted on 06/25/2012 3:48:09 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: lbryce

The NYT is so out of touch with anyone outside their teeny 20 percent nasty radicals located on the coasts, they can’t understand the Tea Party and can’t find it. What was that ruckus that derailed us and who are those tea bagging whitey people!


27 posted on 06/25/2012 3:54:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FreeAtlanta

The left is not going to believe that they got another @ss wipping untill they are out on the streets with no levers of power to pull.


28 posted on 06/25/2012 3:56:02 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: lbryce

What happened to the TEA PARTY?? Nothing..we are still here organized and ready to bring the KENYAN down!!


29 posted on 06/25/2012 4:01:20 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: cdcdawg
I would expect that sort of coverage from a local paper like the Times.

Since he assumed the helm in 1988 (his run should be about done soon), "Pinchy" Sulzberger has stuffed the staff with homosexuals and other deviants, swung the editorial policy over hard-left, and done everything he can in 24 years to turn the New York Times into the countercultural weekly of Soho, Greenwich Village, and TriBeCa.

The most pampered cockatoos in North America crap on fresh-daily copies of The New York Times.

30 posted on 06/25/2012 4:08:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Linda Frances

If anything, Romney represents the backlash from the GOP-E against the Tea Party. They “played” us in the primaries, pitting all the Conservatives against each other while their boy grabbed the nomination by hook or by crook. The next time, we need to be ready before the primaries even get started, and have one viable candidate vetted and selected by US to rally around. Then, we need to stick with that choice, no matter who else throws their hat into the primaries because they think they see an opening.

If the Tea Party can do that, we’ll never see another Bush/McCain/Romney nominee from the Republicans again.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 6:27:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: lbryce
Have its “goals and values” been absorbed into the G.O.P.?


32 posted on 06/26/2012 6:33:09 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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