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Obama Administration Refusing To Assist Arizona With Immigration-Status Checks (AZ counter-suit?)
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 6/25/2012 | Ace

Posted on 06/25/2012 5:37:44 PM PDT by Qbert

I think this might serve as basis for a counter-suit.

The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police.

There will be an increased number of calls from Arizona police, checking on immigration status-- and Obama refuses to budge the number of personnel handling such calls. In most cases, they simply won't even return the call (or pick up the phone).

That means police statewide can immediately begin calling to check immigration status — but federal officials are likely to reject most of those calls.

Federal officials said they’ll still perform the checks as required by law but will respond only when someone has a felony conviction on his or her record. Absent that, ICE will tell the local police to release the person.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; bhodhs; bordersecurity; ice; illegalimmigration; illegals; lawlessness; obama

1 posted on 06/25/2012 5:37:57 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Obama admin refusing to enforce Federal Law? Is this not treason?


2 posted on 06/25/2012 5:42:27 PM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Qbert
NOW will people on the Right STOP saying WE WON? We WON NOTHING! The 9th Circuit will re-issue the injunction and the Az. cops will not be able to do a damned thing. The skunks in the Supreme Court have erased our borders. Jan the Man has ALREADY ordered HLS to flip off requests from Arizona. This is bad people no matter what Rush says.
3 posted on 06/25/2012 5:43:14 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Qbert

Arizona needs to start billing the feds for every illegal alien living in this state. Let the feds pay for all of their schooling, medical, incarceration costs, lost jobs for Arizonans, housing, food, everything! Use the money currently being wasted to fund the immigration service. They aren’t doing anything anyway.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 5:47:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! The big pinata!)
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To: RC2

"Obama admin refusing to enforce Federal Law?"

So much for the presidential oath of office....

5 posted on 06/25/2012 5:49:08 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

It is time to call Zero to the witness stand!! Find out why he will not enforce the laws. Then move to impeach!


6 posted on 06/25/2012 5:54:05 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Qbert

Easy. Brewer calls Perry. All AZ ID checks go to the Feds through Texas.

So what now, McCain?


7 posted on 06/25/2012 5:54:13 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: RC2

Actually, while the president himself, and by extension, the executive branch, cannot be forced to act, using a ‘writ of mandamus’, which was settled in Marbury v. Madison (1810); there is a good argument that can be made that they can be forced to *not* act.

For instance, Obama has directed ICE to not provide citizenship information to Arizona, when Arizona asks if a suspect is an illegal alien, so Arizona cannot force them to give that information. However, Arizona might set up a bureaucratic process *prior* to asking ICE, in which those individuals who are citizens can quickly establish their identity, with minimum effort.

And those who cannot establish their identity “take longer” before they are reported to ICE. And there are lots of ways Arizona can do this.

One that comes to mind is to publish on the Internet the pictures of people who cannot establish their citizenship, “in hopes that the public can help identifying them” so they can be quickly released.

This is in no way prejudicial, as they are not accused of any crime, only need “help” in establishing their identities. And even if they volunteered a name as their own, the bureaucracy could identify them as “John Doe” and “Jane Doe”.


8 posted on 06/25/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Qbert

Time for a class action lawsuit on the basis of gross negligence and failure to uphold the laws of the United States—against the Executive branch of the United States.

To be joined by all those whose family and/or relatives have experienced a violent crime committed by any illegal alien of any country on the territory of the United States of America.


This is what ineligibility looks like.


9 posted on 06/25/2012 6:04:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: RC2

post a deputy in front of every DOJ staff member’s residence....in the interest of public protection.... then broadcast the location of the deputies. Invite the public to bring them chow while on the DOJ watch campaign...


10 posted on 06/25/2012 6:04:53 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Qbert
Mark Levin just addressed this with a caller ... where would this go?

And once it got to the supremes ... ?

11 posted on 06/25/2012 6:07:32 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Qbert

Arizona should ROUND UP all illegals that the Federal Government says to "RELEASE", and charter buses and "RELEASE" them in front of the WHITE HOUSE!!!!

Charter as many buses as necessary! As long as it takes!
12 posted on 06/25/2012 6:10:53 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Qbert

Detain them all in pink underwear & pink striped clothing in tent cities , feeding them peanut butter sandwiches 3 meals a day until the Feds decide to answer the phone!!!


13 posted on 06/25/2012 6:11:03 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Qbert

I know that every member of Congress is sworn in & agrees to suphold the laws of the USA.

What oath is required for Cabinet Department heads?

This is treason, say I.


14 posted on 06/25/2012 6:12:32 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RC2

so do Arizonians still have to Federal tax ?


15 posted on 06/25/2012 6:12:58 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Qbert

Ship the illegals to D.C. and turn them in there.


16 posted on 06/25/2012 6:13:45 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: RC2

‘Obama admin refusing to enforce Federal Law? Is this not treason’

We repeat, where is the outcry from the Republican congress????? Where are the calls for impeaching Obama????


17 posted on 06/25/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by doc
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To: molson209

oops , “pay” should be in there


18 posted on 06/25/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Qbert
then i guess i will decide what laws i will obey then...
19 posted on 06/25/2012 6:18:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Qbert
Federal officials said they’ll still perform the checks as required by law but will respond only when someone has a felony conviction on his or her record. Absent that, ICE will tell the local police to release the person.

I'm just sure that there are plenty of state and local laws to keep the pressure on. If the feds say release him/her, then the local/state laws get enforced. Kids in pubic school? Job paperwork in order? How about that rental application for your apt? Did you lie on it?

20 posted on 06/25/2012 6:22:05 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Qbert

Now what will the feckless Stupid Court do when the federal government refuses to obey the law? Suck their thumbs?


21 posted on 06/25/2012 6:22:32 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Qbert

The Feds refusing to provide identity for illegals.
Not a problem. No food for the illegals until their paperwork clears.


22 posted on 06/25/2012 6:26:17 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: Qbert

She should order the national guard to the border with instructions to stop all cross border traffic.


23 posted on 06/25/2012 6:26:34 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: RC2
Obama admin refusing to enforce Federal Law? Is this not treason?

Its not treason but it is an impeachable offense since he swore to uphold the Constitution and the Laws of the Land. The wussy Pubbies, afraid of what the New York Times might write about them will, however, do as they always do...NOTHING!

24 posted on 06/25/2012 6:32:16 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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A good first step might be to park a patrol car in front of every social service office in the state. Step two, if the Feds refuse to answer calls from Arizona then let the folks in question rot in tent cities until the Feds start doing their job, start responding to the calls and these folks documents can be verified.


25 posted on 06/25/2012 6:37:43 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: Qbert

Easy answer, if no response from the Feds in 24hrs send the scum to Sheriff Joe. Let them rot in tent city until we get an Administration that will enforce the law.


26 posted on 06/25/2012 7:10:45 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Qbert
ICE will tell the local police to release the person.

Where to release them should be the at the discretion of the police. There is plenty of open space in Arizona where releases can be made, much of it Federal range lands. No water or shade, but lots of space. No proof of status and no answer from ICE about their status? Deliver them to Federal "property". Around 12:00 noon each day. All this summer long. With a hearty "Congratulations, you're released" and a nod from the bus driver toward the direction south. They're on federal land so let the Feds take care of them.

27 posted on 06/25/2012 7:38:13 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana

Bus them to DC and release them at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


28 posted on 06/25/2012 7:45:06 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: RC2

re: “Obama admin refusing to enforce Federal Law? Is this not treason?”

Absolutely correct! What happened to, “I swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States. . .”???

The President and his entire administration is violating their sworn promise to uphold the laws of the United States. They have stated so publicly several times. What more does congress need to impeach?

If the president or any other federal offical has the power to REFUSE to enforce federal laws duly passed by congress and signed by previous U.S. Presidents - then what is the point of having laws to begin with?? Can’t he just refuse to observe any law he wants now? He has lied to the American people in his taking of the “oath” of office.


29 posted on 06/25/2012 7:48:01 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Qbert

The feds won’t do anything.

Congress won’t do anything.

It’s now up to the several States to take action. Are they still sovereign or not?


30 posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:09 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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To: Qbert; All

Arizona, and every other state that can show that they are harmed by the refusal of the Obama administration to enforce existing immigration law, should file a “writ of mandamus” in federal court to force the administration to enforce all of the existing immigration laws passed by Congress.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 8:02:34 PM PDT by Synthesist
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To: Synthesist
When Arizona has been pushed too far and decides to secede, Obama will be forced to act like his brother tyrants and forcefully put down the rebellion, he willl, of course follow all UN resolutions.

He wouldn't possibly dare to use force, would he? /s

32 posted on 06/25/2012 10:58:59 PM PDT by snowtigger (.)
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To: knarf

"Mark Levin just addressed this with a caller ... where would this go? And once it got to the supremes ... ?"

There are two aspects at work here: the legal side and the political side. We may very well lose in future legal cases (especially in the 9th circuit, etc.), but keeping the issue open helps politically (see the recent Ras poll out today on SB1070).

Also, I can't speak for Kennedy or Roberts obviously, but if a president made me look like a buffoon by announcing he wasn't going to enforce the law just hours after my opinion was released... I would be itching to have another bite at that apple...

33 posted on 06/26/2012 7:27:58 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Newsmax
Arpaio: Obama Is ‘Arrogant’ on Immigration
Monday, June 25, 2012 06:50 PM

By: Paul Scicchitano and Kathleen Walter

Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio tells Newsmax.TV that Monday’s unanimous Supreme Court decision upholding a key provision of his state’s tough immigration law won’t change day-to-day enforcement efforts, but he called the Obama administration’s plan to ignore calls from Grand Canyon State police “arrogant.”

Published reports quoting unnamed Obama administration officials indicate that the federal government is suspending agreements with Arizona police over the enforcement of federal immigration laws, and that the Homeland Security Department has been told to decline many of the calls it receives from Arizona police over illegal immigrants.

“I don’t like to use the word arrogant, but it looks like they’re somewhat arrogant,” snapped the Maricopa County sheriff in an exclusive interview on Monday. “They took me to court last month — federal court, after a three-and-a-half year investigation stating that we systemically racial profile.”

Story continues below.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/arpaio-immigration-obama-arrogant/2012/06/25/id/443436


34 posted on 06/26/2012 8:23:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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