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U.S. tomato farmers say want to dump Mexico deal (that they say has become "a charade".)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 6/25/12 | Doug Palmer - Reuters

Posted on 06/25/2012 6:32:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. tomato growers on Monday said they have formally asked the U.S. Commerce Department to tear up a pricing agreement with Mexican producers that they say has become "a charade."

Reggie Brown, executive vice president of the Florida Tomato Exchange, told Reuters U.S. producers want the pact voided so they can file a new anti-dumping complaint against Mexico.

The rare request comes in a dispute that dates back to 1996, when U.S. industry filed a petition accusing Mexican producers of selling in the United States at unfairly low prices.

Brown said the Commerce Department found that Mexican producers were dumping their tomatoes in the United States at nearly 188.5 percent below fair market value.

The department later agreed to suspend action on the petition and negotiate a "suspension" agreement with Mexican producers and exporters that established a minimum reference price for Mexican tomatoes in the United States.

In following years, two more suspension agreements were negotiated to replace the original pact, but the reference price barely changed, Brown said.

In the meantime, U.S. tomato imports from Mexico nearly tripled in value to about $1.8 billion last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: commerce; deal; dump; farmers; mexico; tomato
Oh I bet they'll be all over this like steak sauce over at Commerce.
1 posted on 06/25/2012 6:32:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah... let the US consumer pay double...

Reagan opened up markets... I go down to the grocery store and I have choices beyond my wildest imagination.... Sorry, but the American unions don’t like that...

And they inturn pay for our great meat...

I hate the greed in this country...Open up markets... compete fairly...and everyone benifits..


2 posted on 06/25/2012 6:39:20 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: NormsRevenge
Two words.

Explosive diarrhea.

It happens in fields with immigrant workers that don't have medical care. Or access to sanitation facilities. 'splashing fecal material' is NOT something I want in the field where my raw food is being grown.

It can kill those with compromised immune systems.

When I was cooking in restaurants, all of the raw field veg went into a weak bleach solution for a bit.

/johnny

3 posted on 06/25/2012 6:53:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NormsRevenge
When my Chinese made garden sprinkler broke after a whopping 3 hours of use the other day I began pondering the possibility of opening a museum imported crap. It didn't take long for me to figure out that I'd need to rent a 100,000 square foot warehouse just to get started.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 6:53:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Kind of like the fake bio fuel deal Mexico did a few years ago.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 6:54:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: NormsRevenge; thouworm; MestaMachine; STARWISE

THere was a thread a while back regarding produce being used in laundering drug money.....No cash sent south, just food that could be sold.

Anybody happen to keep that one? This may be related.


6 posted on 06/25/2012 6:54:44 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Meh. I've got two dozen cherry, San Marzano, Mr. Stripey, Mountain Pride, and Better Boy plants going in my garden. It's only June and my wife is canning already. I'll take them over any irradiated, green-picked, gas-ripened-in-transit grit balls any day, and I don't care which side of the border they're from.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


7 posted on 06/25/2012 6:56:18 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: NormsRevenge

“Brown said the Commerce Department found that Mexican producers were dumping their tomatoes in the United States at nearly 188.5 percent below fair market value.”

Well, no wonder they’re grabbing market share - I’d like some of that action. 188.5% below a fair price is gonna net me, after I dump the tomatos in the ditch, 88.5 centavos on the dollar in my pocket - net, net, NET!

Or, this idiot reporter is as innumerate as a pumpkin.


8 posted on 06/25/2012 6:56:58 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: cripplecreek
Good Lord, man, three hours??????

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


9 posted on 06/25/2012 6:59:20 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Ironic in that a group of legal Mexicans bought a couple of hundred acres of prime farmland and grow a few million tomato plants every year close to my parent’s place.


10 posted on 06/25/2012 7:02:11 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Viking2002
Yep, I used it about an hour 3 times.

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11 posted on 06/25/2012 7:05:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: headsonpikes

I caught that too. We could break the entire Mexican economy and make a tidy profit just by buying all their tomatoes at 188.5% below the market value.

No wonder we are so screwed. If they use the same math techniques on other things you might end of with a warming climate, jobs being created, a booming economy and that illegal aliens aren’t really illegal. Is that Spock with a goatee I see????


12 posted on 06/25/2012 7:08:14 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: cripplecreek
Are we talking a big garden area, or just a corner of the yard?

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


13 posted on 06/25/2012 7:11:54 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: NormsRevenge

At the local g-store I will check the TINY labels for “mexico” on the vegetables I am getting. If I see it is, I state out loud “mexico? . . . NO WAY!”

I get some hard looks from the staff and some folks put their little plastic bags of whatever right back on the pile.

Then I go to the canned goods isles and laugh...

.


14 posted on 06/25/2012 7:13:32 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Viking2002

Just a corner. I turned it on the other day and it was working fine. When I went out after dinner to turn it off it was broken.


15 posted on 06/25/2012 7:23:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Brown said the Commerce Department found that Mexican producers were dumping their tomatoes in the United States at nearly 188.5 percent below fair market value.

[math facepalm]

16 posted on 06/25/2012 7:28:32 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Last month, tomato farmers here in FL had a bumper crop of tomatoes. Because the price was so low, they could not afford to even harvest them and make a profit. They let people pay a dollar to come on the farm and pick a 5-gallon bucket full of tomatoes in order to cut their losses.

We got 58 excellent quality tomatoes for a buck. And a “free” kitten for my daughter.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: EricT.

Didn’t Florida tomato farmers take a hit a couple years ago over some tainted tomatoes that turned out to have come from Mexico?


18 posted on 06/25/2012 7:49:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

eeeuuuu!

umm...do you put all your veggies in a sort of weak bleach solution now?


19 posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:34 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: cripplecreek
Ah. I think they're all pretty much made in China these days. About the only thing American left are the seeds, and don't be surprised if Ferry-Morse gets bought out. Our homesteading/micro-farming has gotten to the point where I finally wised up last year. There was too much to just 'water', so I built my own irrigation system. I ended up purchasing a four outlet gang valve, about 250' of medium duty garden hose, a bag of male and female adapter fittings, and several oscillating and omnidirectional sprinklers. I ran lengths of hose along borders, edges, and under porches where they'd be out of the way of the lawn mower, cut each length to fit, spliced in an adapter, attached the proper sprinkler based on what/where they were watering, and now I just turn on the main valve - the pressure is pre-adjusted on each outlet of the gang valve. The only fly in the ointment is the Catawba grape arbor in the back corner of the yard - I actually have to get off my dead keister and drag a hose a hundred feet. LOL It is dry down here. Dry, dry, dry. And hot. We thought we were going to get a little relief from T.S. Debby, but, just like my wife, she changed her mind at the last minute and screwed up my plans. *Hmph* Women.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


20 posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:34 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: cripplecreek

Don’t know. I just moved here last Summer.


21 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:57 PM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Aria
.do you put all your veggies in a sort of weak bleach solution now?

Yes. I left a kidney and spleen on the side of a mountain, far, far away, so I have one of those compromised immune systems.

Except for my veggies that I grow.

/johnny

22 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Viking2002
About the only thing American left are the seeds

I use mostly heirloom seeds. One of these days the feds are gonna swoop down and arrest me and a whole busload of little old ladies who are part of the seed trading ring.

Just the other day, Mildred said she would hook me up with some Budget Booster tomato seeds next spring if I could score some Broomsdale spinach seed for her.
23 posted on 06/25/2012 8:01:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TLI

I refuse to buy any vegetables or fruits coming from Mexico and complain loudly when I find that is all the store has. And further complain to management, just as loudly. I also complain about fish from China.


24 posted on 06/25/2012 8:03:11 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: JRandomFreeper

So please let me know how to make this solution - how much bleach to water?

I’n pretty healthy but no use pushing my luck.

Were you in the military? Spleen and Kidney is a lot to leave behind.


25 posted on 06/25/2012 8:16:39 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Aria
Technically? 50 parts per million.... and regular bottled bleach requires about a capful per gallon of water. When you can smell it, it's enough or way too much.

Yes. I was in the military.

That had zip to do with leaving the spleen and the kidney. I was a cook last enlistment. Who shoots cooks?

Cooks get hurt in slip fall accidents.

And (deep voice here) it's amazing how short a distance you can fall and get badly hurt.

/johnny

26 posted on 06/25/2012 8:24:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah, I'm really getting to appreciate heirloom seeds and my catalogs are starting to arrive in the mail now. Just got a new John Scheepers catalog last week, in fact. And that bit about the feds is no joke - the Ag weenies pack heat, now. Can't sell raw milk. Some states even ban rainwater collection. They'll be coming for our squash next.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


27 posted on 06/25/2012 8:43:55 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ahh...well I was imagining war wounds....obviously.

Thanks for the info.


28 posted on 06/25/2012 10:08:41 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Aria
We had safety briefings in the USAF.

I was safer when I was at war. ;)

/johnny

29 posted on 06/25/2012 10:17:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TLI

I do the same thing. I also say the words salmonella and e.coli very loudly.


30 posted on 06/25/2012 10:19:39 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Duchess47

Bravo! I do the same here in Northern California. We have the best farmland in the world and have to import produce from Mexico? No way I’m buying from outside the US. Best tomatoes I’ve found, Campari, from Arizona. Consistently sweet and rich, and meaty.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 10:58:22 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Technically? 50 parts per million.... and regular bottled bleach requires about a capful per gallon of water. When you can smell it, it's enough or way too much.


That's a little stronger than the level of bleach we were told to use after an earthquake -

Boiling water should be your first choice. You can, however, disinfect water with common household liquid chlorine bleach. This will kill bacteria in the water. Add eight drops of bleach per gallon for clear water and 16 drops per gallon if the water is cloudy. Shake and let stand for 30 minutes before using. A slight chlorine odor should be detectable in the water. If not, repeat the dosage and let stand for an additional 15 minutes.

32 posted on 06/25/2012 11:11:27 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: cripplecreek

I’m on my third garden hose water sprayer this year. I thought it was just me. What garbage they make.


33 posted on 06/25/2012 11:16:49 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: NormsRevenge

Three words: Chi Chi’s restaurant.
And yes, heirloom seeds. Got Rutgers, Brandywines, Ace 55s, Romas and some volunteers from last year.


34 posted on 06/25/2012 11:36:12 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Viking2002

Read the seed packets. Some now say on the Country of Origin: China.


35 posted on 06/26/2012 3:20:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!; cripplecreek
So far, I haven't come across any marked as such; not vegetable seeds, anyway, and I always check country of origin and packing date. But, the best way to eliminate it is cripplecreek's way - go heirloom. They haven't hybridized all the flavor out them, either.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


36 posted on 06/26/2012 4:03:10 AM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: JoeA

I personally think we should do more of the region specific traditional crop farming. More cold weather crops from places they grew in the 1800s before being hybridized to grown in the desert.

That’s not to say that we shouldn’t maximize crops by growing in the southwest, only that growing traditional crops as a safety measure is a good idea.


37 posted on 06/26/2012 4:20:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Viking2002

This won’t be a great year for tomatoes in southern Michigan, (too cool and dry) but the hybrids that would do well, taste like wax.


38 posted on 06/26/2012 4:23:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek; Viking2002

Mine: Made in The USA:

http://www.amazon.com/Rittenhouse-amazwalkingsprinkler-Walking-Sprinkler-Cast/dp/B0002PB214


39 posted on 06/26/2012 4:34:16 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: cripplecreek

US made tools/equipment:

http://www.squidoo.com/made-in-the-usa-garden-tools


40 posted on 06/26/2012 4:39:03 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: cripplecreek

Still more:

http://madeinusaforever.com/rara625lagaw.html


41 posted on 06/26/2012 4:40:08 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: cripplecreek
I personally think we should do more of the region specific traditional crop farming. More cold weather crops from places they grew in the 1800s before being hybridized to grown in the desert.

I agree fully!

42 posted on 06/26/2012 4:44:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: cripplecreek
I'd like to place an order of that 'cool and dry'. Delivered, FedEx Priority Overnight. We're at the other end of the temp spectrum (calling for 101 F. - ambient - on Saturday), but still as dry, hence the need for my irrigation system. But my tomatoes and beans are loving it as long as they get plenty to drink. My peppers aren't too happy about it; they never are, but I just put down about 50 more seeds from last year's crop, and they'll respond well once cooler weather gets here. We've picked hundreds of cherry tomatoes so far, and they're the size of ping pong balls. Beet red inside. So much flavor, they actually make you pucker. Tonight I may halve a couple dozen, brush them with olive oil, top them with some fresh basil out of our herb garden and some shredded Mozzarella, and broil them as a side dish.

This is a weird piece of real estate. I have to plant cyclically to get maximum yield. I haven't even put down the squash and zucchini yet!

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


43 posted on 06/26/2012 4:52:32 AM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Who shoots cooks?....The grunts that have to eat it without Tobasco sauce?


44 posted on 06/26/2012 4:56:25 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: carriage_hill
That's a neat gizmo, but I have too many obstructions in the yard for it to do the job properly. I'd have a four star Charlie Foxtrot going on out there in about five minutes flat. It will be a good idea once we do sell this place off and get a larger piece of property, though.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


45 posted on 06/26/2012 6:22:09 AM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: Viking2002

This is what we use on the Farm’s acreage:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16932314@N04/5471336210/sizes/l/in/photostream/


46 posted on 06/26/2012 7:05:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill
Yeah, I live about 30 minutes from Auburn University, and see them in their Ag School's fields all the time. Fascinating to watch, too. They always remind me of huge, skinless, 1920's monoplanes trying to take off.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


47 posted on 06/26/2012 7:27:30 AM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: EricT.
We got 58 excellent quality tomatoes for a buck. And a “free” kitten for my daughter.

I was in a gift shop in Kennebunkport, ME that had a sign: "Unattended children will be given a cup of espresso and a free kitten."

48 posted on 06/26/2012 7:33:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Viking2002

That system was invented, years ago, in Israel to irrigate the Negev Desert’s fruit trees and other produce. They can draw-down a spring-fed pond very quickly, depending upon the pipes’ linear footage and pumps’ hp. I like your analogy to “huge, skinless, 1920’s monoplanes trying to take off”... I can see that scenario! LOL.


49 posted on 06/26/2012 10:59:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (quickl)
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