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Posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:24 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
In Arizona v. United States, the Supreme Court unanimously agreed that the federal government has no basis to nullify the "show me your papers" provision of Arizona's immigration law. Conservatives Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, moderate Anthony Kennedy, liberals Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- even Obama appointee Sonia Sotomayor -- all shot down the administration's effort to stop that part of the law. (Obama appointee Elena Kagan stayed out of it because she had taken part in the action as a member of the administration.)
Yet even with that unanimity -- a position supported, if the polls are correct, by a solid majority of the public and an overwhelming majority of Republicans -- GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney would not specifically say he agreed with the court's view on "show me your papers."
Romney's words again suggested he agrees with the court's opinion on "show me your papers." But again, he offered nothing to make clear his position on the central issue of the Arizona immigration fight.
Perhaps Romney was just exercising his legendary caution. But if Scalia and Sotomayor can agree on something, what would be the risk in Romney agreeing with it, too?
Though it touched on many questions, the political fight over the Arizona immigration law focused on a very specific issue: Should police who have stopped a person for some legitimate reason then check that person's status if they have reason to believe he or she might be in the country illegally? On Monday, Mitt Romney had the perfect opportunity to align himself with the conservative -- and popular -- side of the question, and declined to take it.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Now, there are people in the Republican establishment that will tell you, "Yeah, it's exactly what we're supposed to do." Then we become no different than the left, pandering to this coalition with this message, that coalition with another message, a coalition over there with that interest group, what have you. You and I have always believed that standing for the rule of law... what bothers me is the assumption or the presumption that every Hispanic in this country, every Latino is for breaking the law. I just don't believe it. I just don't believe that's the case.
Romney may be playing this right. Why interfere when the opposition party is doing a good job of destroying themselves.
The GOPe likes their cheap Meh-ican labor and cheap tarts disguised as housekeepers and nannies. The GOP loves Shamnesty as much as the ‘Rats. Two anti-American parties are enough. Willard is a statist.
No doubt, many poster here have their “hot button” issues.
For many, it’s abortion, or sane fiscal policy.
For me, illegal immigration is at the top of my list.
I am for legal immigration, not illegal immigration.
The two choices we have in November are bleak.
Romney has no courage, no guts. He is a hollow man.
He takes no stand, one way or the other.
is that just a standard talking point - I’ve been seeing that everywhere in regard to Mitt saying nothing. York just pointed out that this is popular with Americans and even liberal judges agreed and yet Mitt can’t stand up for something that really wont hurt him?
Regardless of what he said, the CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc. network news Pimps and Prostitutes would spin it against him and for the Food Stamp President. Watched them as they were stumped because he pulled a Food Stamp President on them and gave one of those filibuster say-nothing responses.
But let's get back today's narrative: Immigration.
The idea here is to pressure Romney into taking a position on immigration that both the media and the White House can then use to beat him senseless with. And it doesnt matter what Romney's ultimate position will be. The media will still lie and twist and beat him senseless with it.
We know this because the media is already shamelessly lying about Romney's time at Bain Capital.
Why in the world should Romney play by the media's rules and therefore on Obama's turf when it comes to any policy, but most especially immigration -- something the media will most certainly turn into racial dynamite? Why should Romney stupidly turn the focus on himself when the way to win this election is to make it a referendum on Obama by keeping the focus on him?
It's impossible to lose by standing firmly and loudly with 70% of the American people. Romney's weak ass statement on this decision, is as weak as his statements on every other issue of national importance in the last few weeks.
He's never stood firmly for anything in his entire adult life.
Romney is simply weak. He's got a noodle for a spine, and a weather vane in place of firm convictions and principles. He's an empty suit who is going to pander to the left, and break your ever lovin' heart.
In before the anti-Rush Limbaugh posts and after the anti-Mitt Romney posts.
And he is Anybody But Obama,,,ABO
That he is. ABO. A gutless ABO.
This election is about electoral votes and swing states.Obama desperately wants to win swing states Colorado and Nevada which have growing hispanic populations in trying to capture electoral votes.That is why he is trying to box Romney into a corner with hispanics by that executive order granting partial amnesty and this latest court fight over the Az immigration law.He is trying to take up the slack from the white working class he will be losing this time around with the hispanic vote Romney wants this to be about Obama and he does not want to be baited into “war against hispanics” storyline that the Dems want to sell. So I would guess handlers are telling him politically to keep his message muted and vague on the issue until the media tires of the issue and he can get back on message about Obama and the economy.
Oh please. Enough with the, 'he's not letting the MSM bait him into a trap' bs. If Romney had a spine, or something resembling guts and real convictions, he'd be out there blasting Obama for every over-reach and misstep.
What's he doing instead? Making weaseling milquetoast statements that have to be interpreted through a Federation universal translator, then run past a battery of Ivy League linguists to sort out his intent.
In an election where his record nearly mirrors that of his opponent's, he needs to be drawing the clearest differentiation he can manage, but he's not. As usual, Mr. Weather Vane is looking to see which way the wind is blowing, and even then, he's getting it wrong.
Fully 70% of the American people want illegal immigration stopped, and the law breakers sent home to their own countries. You cannot lose by strongly voicing support for upholding the rule of law and American sovereignty on this issue. Apparently, the master strategist, Romney, is too afraid of offending anyone but conservatives, to come right out and say what Americans are dying to hear from a leader.
Spare me the apologies for the quisling liberal.
Why would Romney not just say, “I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the duely elected govenors of the states and the citizens of the states. I stand with their state sovereignty and their citizens.” “And if duely elected as President I will faithfully execute the laws of the United States. Since the Arizona law was the mirror image of the federal laws those laws will be enforced.” It is a gift.
GREAT POST, BRATCH... Here’s the whole thing...
Romney Avoids Another Media Immigration Trap BY John Nolte
Today’s Supreme Court ruling on the Arizona immigration law gave the corrupt media yet another opportunity to try and trick Mitt Romney into playing by their rules. And as we all know, there’s absolutely no difference between Obama’s rules and the media’s rules.
Ever since Obama violated his oath of office and chose to no longer enforce our immigration laws regarding certain Mexican illegals, the media has eagerly locked arms with the President to help him spring this cynical and obvious political trap. For ten days now, we’ve been fed a steady stream of All Things Hispanic — a narrative that has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with identity politics.
If the media truly gave a hi-ho-hearty damn about the plight of Mexicans, it would give Fast and Furious the attention it deserves — an administration scandal that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of innocent Mexican citizens. But like the phony War on Women and George Zimmerman and same-sex marriage — piece by piece, the media is aiding and abetting Team Obama in securing its base.
But let’s get back today’s narrative: Immigration.
The idea here is to pressure Romney into taking a position on immigration that both the media and the White House can then use to beat him senseless with. And it doesnt matter what Romney’s ultimate position will be. The media will still lie and twist and beat him senseless with it.
We know this because the media is already shamelessly lying about Romney’s time at Bain Capital.
Why in the world should Romney play by the media’s rules and therefore on Obama’s turf when it comes to any policy, but most especially immigration — something the media will most certainly turn into racial dynamite? Why should Romney stupidly turn the focus on himself when the way to win this election is to make it a referendum on Obama by keeping the focus on him?
Because the media’s pressuring him to?
Even some conservatives I respect are thinking it might be time for Romney to “release specifics” on the issue. After the SCOTUS decision was announced, Romney did release a statement but wisely, in my opinion, used the spotlight to take a few more whacks at Obama’s four years of inaction on the issue.
Personally, I’m impressed by Romney’s nerve on this. The media is crafty at labeling their traps escape hatches (just do this and we’ll stop) and more often than not, Republicans fall for it.
He’s keeping his powder dry, playing a winning game of chicken, keeping the focus on Obama, and staying on message.
Eventually, Romney will of course release policy specifics. But this should be a strategically timed move and an offensive one, not a reactionary one.
Stop worrying about that the media thinks. Think about what the media will do. Romney had a choice today between ten days of pain by getting specific or an afternoon of pain for not.
Like I said before: chess not checkers.
What are you? 15?
Romney had a great chance, epecially givin BHO’s fiat on “certain” illegals last week, to HIT THIS HARD.
Chief Justice Roberts will turn out to be another RINO appointee and yet another check in the negative column for another weak president, GW Bush.
Romney is weak and a coward. The fact conservatives can’t take advantage of a pure socialist president proves the movement is dead. We give them the House and Senate over and over and they tell us to pound sand.
Screw the left, they’ll committ suicide as you proclaim. It’s time to SWEEP the commie loving Marxist RINO’s from the GOP or just stay home.
Personally (and 9/11 proves this) I believe the people are too stupid to do anything to stop this. Nothing we do from 1994 to 2000, 2004, 2010 mean NOTHING when you let the “leaders” be left wing leaning nuts like Boehner, McConnell, Bushes, et al.
It’s going to take the complete collapse of our economy to change this country. And even then I’m skeptical. When GM is government owned and given to the UAW and even WalMart grows the economy more of China than ours the I’m afraid there is no Atlas to shrug.
John Galt is dead. My suggestion? Go apply for other peoples money and lie on the applications. If they deny you, sue the hell out of them.
Collapse the system from the right and the populace will help us decapitate the left. Literally.
So is Hitler!
Right. And I’m sure all that was the consensus in 2008 with McCain. How many times can one be fooled?
You're right, TS. Romney was just handed a FREE GIFT, courtesy of the Supreme Court and Borracho Hussein Obama, and he totally dropped it. Again.
Folks, this is what a quisling traitor to American values and conscience looks like. Even when a winning hand is dealt to him, and all he has to do is lay it on the table, he chokes, and says or does something calculated to do more for the status quo, than for the average American citizen.
If there was ever a time that the nation needed a 180 degree counterpoint to challenge a disastrous incumbent president, this is it. Instead, we get Mr. Mumbles, who can't articulate a conservative point of view to save his hide. Utterly, utterly pathetic.
Byron ya knew he was “timid” cause ya could see that yellow streak down his back as he was running AWAY from the fight, eh ???
As I been saying, Romney is terrified of the Hispanic vote and has no idea how to deal with it. Expect him to act lame and empty when these things happen.
Two out of Three rinos agree...Nobody But Romney...NBO
Two out of Three rinos agree...Nobody But Romney...NBR
Standing for nothing is a winning strategy.
Mr. RomneyCARE (author of DEATH PANELS) is as
“conservative” and courageous now, as he will Ever be.
Mr. RomneyCARE will shortly become more LIBERAL
and proIslam, proIllegal, and proTAXES
than Obama and the entire DNC.
The GOPe are as evil now, as when they attacked
Gov. Palin on the EVE of Election 2008.
Wee Willie Mitty has no idea how to deal with anything in life...
hes had no challenges in his 66 years...
Hes had everything handed to him...
Even his wife was picked out by Daddy who moved her into their home when she was about 15 to teach her how to be a good wife Romney style...
He was a mollycoddled spoiled little rich boy whos idea of an innocent pranbk was to attack a boy and cut off his hair and to destroy golf courses..
He was protected from serving his country by a goofball father...while other boys slogged in the jungle Willie dodged the draft and ran to France where he lived in a mansion and drove a top of the line Citreon...and caused 2 accidents...one fatal..with Daddy flying over to cover for him..
He never had to work or sweat his way through college wondering how he was going to afford next semester ..Though his wife did admit they nearly had to sell some stock once...
He had $250 MILLION in 2008 probably much more now...Those off shore accounts to avoid taxes do help...
He owns at least 4 mansions now that hes sold 2 of them...
He spent MILLIONS buying some CA seaside property to pull down a perfectly good 5,000 house and build a 12,000 one in its place...complete with elevators for his cars...among them his wifes TWO Caddies...
Who lives like that ???
Willie is out of touch with normal Americans..
with normal challenge laden lives...
If a real problem arose he would not know how to deal with it...
And this is what the republican party gave us. Pretty discouraged for the future of my country.
Republican gutlessness is always on display! These pricks will not defend their women, their children’s future or even themselves against the anti-white bigotry....they are actually worthless riders on the principles of better people!
Wow, you are really on a Romney bummer... :) ..have the ABBBO club members come across you yet? They get pretty testy.
When people suffer from the extreme cognitive dissonance that results from self-proclaimed conservatives having to vote for a progressive, liberal, Nelson Rockefeller-reincarnation whose family background and political history has been in opposition to the Reagan and Goldwater Revolutions, anger is inevitable. It's difficult to admit to one's self that you are being a hypocrite. If Romney was the nominee of the other party (which would make far more sense), these same people would be leading the choruses of criticism, rather than singing faint praises.
Those of us who are committed to not voting for either Romney or Obama but for all conservatives down the ticket don't have such an internal conflict. I've only had the opportunity to vote with enthusiasm for President three times (1980, 1984, and 2000) but voted R the other times as the candidate was at least acceptable. That is not the case this year.
Not liking Romney I still would like to see someone confronting Obama on the things he does that we hate, but Romney won't do it. He got what he needed from conservatives so now he is looking to more moderate/liberal voters.
The real scary part is when/if they get the POTUS office, There is no telling what they will do once in office and when they do the whole Republican club : FNC and those on the Sunday shows, and many freepers here, feel a need to defend what they once cursed and vice versa.
Remember when Republicans claimed bailouts and green energy and deficits and amnesty were good for this country? Well it could be coming back if Romney got elected.
That Romney is timid is not news! Where is bomb thrower Newt when we need him? Or even Perry. But we have been dealt Romney. You play with what cards are dealt. Wishful thinking is not reality. The TIMID voters picked Romney, not you or me. We all know that.
My point is though, even the timidity of Romney & GOP does not seem to be hurting at the polls. I see Romney winning in November.
Bur I concur with you that only a revolution of sorts will turn the country direction around. It will take much more economic pain for that to take place. Most people are still eating good, drinking good, and driving nice cars.
I thought the PEOPLE voted in primaries, not ONLY the party hacks. Prudence says make the best with the cards dealt in your hand. There is still the opportunity to elect Tea-party types to congress. Mitt is pliable.
This is probably a little more accurate...
I’m with you, CC. When the RNC suggested that I hold my nose in the past and vote for their Rino candidates as “better than....”, I’ve done so and felt like dog excrement afterwards...
Now I know that it was because I was betraying my values while pledging allegiance to a phony GOP-E that doesn’t appreciate or even understand Constitutional Conservatism.
When I vote, I stand before God, my country and my family,. It is a sacred privilege and not to be taken lightly. Therefore, I have made a decision that I will no longer cast my ballot for anyone who does not profess to uphold founding principles.
Willard Romney is not a Conservative but rather a left leaning party liberal Republican who will throw the Tea Party and all that we stand for under the bus before the ink on his nomination papers is dry. No thanks.
It would be nice to think that the Tea Party could pull Romney to the right but I highly doubt it. The Romney family contempt for conservatives runs deep. I believe that Romney's liberal tendencies will draw him into a left-of-center coalition with the Democrats and RINOs with Mitt claiming the mantle of the great reconciler. He'll pick a couple of fights with the Tea Partiers to claim to be the "reasonable" one who will stand up to the radical right. When it's all said and done, Romney will probably accomplish more of the leftist domestic agenda than Obama could have with unified Republican opposition.
Prudence says make the best with the cards dealt in your hand.
You might want to skip that card analogy. That's a great strategy to lose all your money. Prudent poker players will generally fold when they are dealt a junk hand.
That’s why the primaries should be held on the same day. By the time a lot of states vote, the damage is done.
My hope is Mitt is a politician through and through. In liberal Mass he acted liberal. As president, he may shift to center-right where the country is. Only time will tell. I am not going to pigeon hole Mitt based on his Massachusetts performance. Even there he exercised hundreds of veto’s. So there is hope.
You’ve been told that Hitler committed suicide in 1945, haven’t you? Can you think of anyone else who might actually be on the ballot this November?
I heard with my own ears Rush said today on his radio talk show that Romney was doing a great job of running the campaign, especially his rapid response is very effective.
I will defer to Rush’s opinion over any one here, no offense intended to anyone here..
We'll be wishing Obama had won.
>”We’ll be wishing Obama had won”<
Must be Happy Hour...
About a dozen third party candidates.
But you don’t get sarcasm do you?
Oh, was that sarcasm? I’ve seen better.
When it's all said and done, Romney will probably accomplish more of the leftist domestic agenda than Obama could have with unified Republican opposition.
The guy is a Bishop and member of one of the founding family's of the Mormon Cult, they believe Jesus is coming to Missouri.
A total snake oil salesman, he will push the same homosexual liberal social agenda as the Kenyan (Happy "Pride Day" at the Pentagon today), appoint liberal judges like he did in Massachusetts, and do nothing about abortion.
He'll make it easier for his fellow cult members and wall street to game the system, but don't look for any tax cuts for the working man from this character.
Please explain what you think this chump is going to do to implement conservative principles?