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There is only one solution to this problem ... and you gun nuts ain't going to like it!

1 posted on 06/26/2012 5:44:29 AM PDT by Zakeet
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Bull crap


2 posted on 06/26/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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BS


3 posted on 06/26/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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The lead poisoning is being caused by global warming...


5 posted on 06/26/2012 5:51:33 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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Nice try commie. Ain’t gonna work.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 5:51:44 AM PDT by albie
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Just how is it that the condor’s diet is so rich in lead? Do they purposely seek out expended bullets? Do they only eat rodents previously shot with lead projectiles? Do they live where there’s alot of lead dust in the air?
Seriously... how does this happen?


7 posted on 06/26/2012 5:51:50 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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Nice try commie. Ain’t gonna work.


8 posted on 06/26/2012 5:52:00 AM PDT by albie
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Another push to ban lead in ammunition. But just where is all of this hunting going on in California?
What do Californians hunt, and when is that season?
Do these enviro nuts not realize that question will be asked? The condors have to have a source of lead first. That would be from animals shot by hunters and then left for dead, which hunters do not do.
These extremists are foolish enough to believe their “study” will be widely accepted without question.
Fortunately things don’t work that way.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 5:53:19 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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Condors eat expended bullets?
What - they think they're Milk Duds?

Hh, no - wait.
Unethical hunters go into the wild, shoot anything and everything that moves and then leaves the carcasses for the condors to eat.

OK - I get it.

10 posted on 06/26/2012 5:53:29 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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Lead has been used for over a hundred years, fired at migratory water fowl over lakes, rivers and streams. The lead sinks to the bottom of the lake, river or stream, and stays put. Why don’t we see elevated lead rates in our drinking water from these lakes, rivers and streams? Certainly our drinking water would be adversely affected, right?

The lead in ammo is solid, it’s not a powder, it’s not a liquid - it’s a solid mass that will pass through the gut and be expelled along with other indigestable matter. Just like lead in solder, it’s chemically bound - it’s not a free radical.


12 posted on 06/26/2012 5:57:32 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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“Unfortunately, even if only a few people are still using lead ammunition, there will be enough contaminated carcasses to cause lead poisoning in a significant number of condors,” Finkelstein said. “We found that over the course of 10 years, if just one half of one percent of carcasses have lead in them, the probability that each free-flying condor will be exposed is 85 to 98 percent, and one exposure event could kill a condor.”

This doesn't pass the smell test, and is clearly a statistic thrown in to force a "total ban" on lead ammunition.

This means that greater regulation of lead-based ammunition will be necessary to protect condors. Alternatives to lead ammunition are widely available, but regulations to limit the use of lead ammunition are opposed by most hunting organizations and ‘gun-rights’ groups.

And there it is, but I'm wondering why gun-rights is in quotes. The obvious reason is to call it into question.

It’s interesting to note that the ‘Californian’ condor was widespread throughout North America only 10,000 years ago, and throughout all of the Americas before that.

10,000 years ago. Long before lead ammunition arrived. Perhaps the demise of large ice-age mammals has been the downfall of the condor.

13 posted on 06/26/2012 5:59:53 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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And all this time I thought it was the windmills that were chopping up the condors.


15 posted on 06/26/2012 6:03:14 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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Some Democrat’s sister needs a job. She’ll be looking for lead in condor crap at $130,000 a year.


17 posted on 06/26/2012 6:03:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Guess I need to start breeding condors and selling them to gun ranges...


19 posted on 06/26/2012 6:04:29 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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Those mugs look like a couple of mean buzzards.


20 posted on 06/26/2012 6:07:06 AM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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No one talks about the 70 golden eagles that are killed outside Oakland, California by wind turbines (aka bird wackers)every year. I would pose the question of how many nesting pairs of this endangered and majestic raptor does it take to replace these chopped birds. The Sierra Club and their liberal connections in Congress are mute on this subject.
21 posted on 06/26/2012 6:07:38 AM PDT by barnrat
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And yet all the other vulture species are doing fine. Hmmmm, what is that I smell?


25 posted on 06/26/2012 6:09:51 AM PDT by Double Tap
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This is obviously bull crap without evidence that the lead is actually being consumed by the birds.

An unbiased environmental survey of the condor habitat would need to be done, and find actual evidence of lead-contaminated carrion that is prevalent enough to cause these effects, compared to other lead sources in the habitat.

Of course, we’d also need evidence that the condors were actually feeding on this carrion. And that this consumption was measurable affecting their lead levels. And that the elevated lead levels were measurably affecting their health.

But the BIG missing link in the chain of causation is the existence of lead-contaminated carrion in the condor habitat.


27 posted on 06/26/2012 6:15:28 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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“We will never have a self-sustaining wild condor population if we don’t solve this problem,” And the reason I care is.........................?

They come out with this same old BS every few years. I'm surprised that there's one bird left in the sky over America..........

28 posted on 06/26/2012 6:16:16 AM PDT by basil
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Humans being driven to extinction from the green agenda and UN agenda 21

There, fixed it!


29 posted on 06/26/2012 6:17:05 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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An Fw 200 Condor driven to extinction by lead poisoning.

30 posted on 06/26/2012 6:22:58 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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