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College football playoff approved
Fox Sports ^ | June 26, 2012

Posted on 06/26/2012 5:12:19 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

College football will finally have a playoff. Come 2014, the BCS is dead.

A committee of university presidents on Tuesday approved a plan for a four-team playoff put forward by commissioners of the major football conferences.

''It goes just the right amount,'' he said.

The move completes a six-month process for the commissioners, who have been working on a new way to determine a major college football champion after years of griping from fans.

''There were differences of views,'' Steger said. ''I think it would be a serious mistake to assume it was a rubber stamp.''

Instead of simply matching the nation's No. 1 and No. 2 teams in a championship game after the regular season, the way the Bowl Championship Series has done since 1998, the new format will create a pair of national semifinals.

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1 posted on 06/26/2012 5:12:26 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Only 50 or 75 years late...


2 posted on 06/26/2012 5:13:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As an LSU fan... Geaux NCAA!


3 posted on 06/26/2012 5:16:45 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This could be for naught with the lawsuits about pro players getting their bells rung over the years.

The PC crowd may well force the end of football as we know it.

4 posted on 06/26/2012 5:22:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sorry but I see this as exploiting the student-athletes time and bodies for more money and not for betterment of students, colleges or traditional bowls.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 5:23:48 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: freedumb2003

Most of us did not care 50 years ago though, but many do care now.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 5:24:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought Solyndra)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Allow me to be the first:

"The new system is horrible and needs to be replaced!" -- Head Coach Team #5

7 posted on 06/26/2012 5:27:08 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought Solyndra)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah, now the SEC can get four of their teams in there instead of 2 every year.

I will believe the corruption has been taken out when there are NO SEC teams in the playoff.


8 posted on 06/26/2012 5:36:26 PM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (Fight On !)
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To: Positive

We’ll see how excited everyone is when the SEC has two or three teams in the playoff... every year.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 5:40:31 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Michael.SF.

How about a 256 team playoff? We can use Division I, II and III teams. We start the playoffs in September and by August of the next year we are down to the final game


10 posted on 06/26/2012 5:43:22 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: AlexisHeavyMetal1981

Why on earth would you say such a thing? We have the best teams in the country here in the SEC. Just because USC sucks doesn’t mean you have to be a hater


11 posted on 06/26/2012 5:46:22 PM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The BCS grew to four bowl games plus the National Championship Game consisting of six conference champions and four wild cards. The new system will consist of six bowl games consisting of four selected semi-finalists and a spot for at least five conference champions.

Less has changed than what meets the eye. But at least there will be a true playoff.


12 posted on 06/26/2012 5:49:42 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: AlexisHeavyMetal1981
Yeah, now the SEC can get four of their teams in there instead of 2 every year.

bcs
13 posted on 06/26/2012 5:51:04 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A four team playoff? What?

Will bowl games continue?


14 posted on 06/26/2012 5:51:30 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Michael.SF.
"The new system is horrible and needs to be replaced!" -- Head Coach Team #5

LOL. True dat.

15 posted on 06/26/2012 5:52:37 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
Actually, we could do a realistic playoff with 256 teams, though 192 makes more sense. Here is how: Reconfigure the NCAA conferences to 16 conferences of 12 teams each (192 teams)

Each conference has two divisions (32 div. Champs)>

Conference championship game is essentially round one.

16 teams left

Only conference champions move on into the "Bowl" games that qualify for the final four teams.

If you cannot win your conference, you cannot be the Champ.

Season would be extended to 14 games for only two teams.

16 posted on 06/26/2012 6:00:23 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought Solyndra)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Should be a 16 yeam playoff. 11 conference champs, 5 at large. The SEC can still get 3 in and CUSA and MWC etc with 1- 2 losses has a shot


17 posted on 06/26/2012 6:05:50 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: shalom aleichem

Sorry but I see this as exploiting the student-athletes time and bodies for more money and not for betterment of students, colleges or traditional bowls.


That is right on...


18 posted on 06/26/2012 6:07:26 PM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: Vote 4 Nixon
Why on earth would you say such a thing? We have the best teams in the country here in the SEC. Just because USC sucks doesn’t mean you have to be a hater

Now, if only the SEC teams outside of Vandy were affiliated with actual institutions of higher learning. . .it might once again be called college football.

With all of the rampant over-signing, roster management through "medical retirements." gray shirting, and other cynical practices of that league. half of the field is all but guaranteed to be composed of semi-pro clubs from SEC penal colonies.
19 posted on 06/26/2012 6:18:25 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: shalom aleichem

All those kids care about is getting to the NFL anyway (even though few actually make it).

After reading Tebow’s book, I can see how small a part academics plays in the life of NFL bound college athletes.


20 posted on 06/26/2012 6:23:57 PM PDT by nascarnation
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A few predictions...

1. This is one of many ongoing small steps toward the elimination of the NCAA as we know it and the creation of an elite “superpowers” conference.

2. The playoff will expand to 8 or 16 teams within a relatively short period of time. It will not stop at 4 teams. As Mike Leach said, there will be a bunch of money generated by this extravaganza, and more money is to be made by adding teams.

3. You will see the end of the amateur college athlete, at least in football. They will start to be paid outright.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 6:32:50 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t think this really “fixes” anything at all. Now, instead of having endless debates about one or both teams facing off in the BCS title game, we’ll have endless debates about whether a #5 or #6 team should have been ranked #4 and included in the “national semifinals.”


22 posted on 06/26/2012 6:34:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So, Bigtime college football joins bigtime college basketball in the gambling lobby's whorehouse. Anyone want to bet on how long it will be before this "final four" grows into a "sweet sixteen?"

The money-driven degenerates will have us suffering through college football until February by the end of the decade. What a f*ing obscenity.

23 posted on 06/26/2012 6:37:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
As Mike Leach said, there will be a bunch of money generated by this extravaganza, and more money is to be made by adding teams.

IDK who "Mike Leach" is but his grasp of the obvious is a stranglehold. This whole issue is driven by money, and mostly dirty money at that. This is the quantum leap of college ball into gambling and institutional corruption. No true sports fan can watch this without feeeling nauseous.

24 posted on 06/26/2012 6:43:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Renderofveils
ROFL.

I'm only an "SEC fan" because of my sentimental attachment to some great Georgia teams back in the early 1980s, but there's no disputing the fact that the SEC has completely dominated the national title scene since the BCS was established. It seems like the only time a non-SEC team wins the national title is when the championship game matches two non-SEC teams.

Oddly enough, the SEC didn't have quite so many national champions from the 1980s through the mid-1990s when the process of selecting national champions actually favored independent teams that weren't locked into specific bowl games as conference champions. That's why Penn State, Miami and Notre Dame won a disproportionate number of national titles in that brief stretch.

25 posted on 06/26/2012 6:46:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is great! Now we’ll get to see 3 more SEC games on TV each year!


26 posted on 06/26/2012 7:33:19 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

I posted that too quickly. It’ll only be two more SEC games each year.


27 posted on 06/26/2012 7:34:37 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Goldsborough

Them’s fighting’ words. I think I want to hit you. Come here, boy.


28 posted on 06/26/2012 8:00:46 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Alberta's Child

” Oddly enough,the SEC didn’t have quite so many national champions from the 1980s through the mid-1990s when the process of selecting national champions actually favored independent teams that weren’t locked into specific bowl games as conference champions. That’s why Penn State,Miami and Notre Dame won a disproportionate number of national titles in that brief stretch”

????


29 posted on 06/26/2012 8:01:25 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: I Drive Too Fast

That’s basically what the NBA does.


30 posted on 06/26/2012 8:02:30 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can see it now.. Coming to a sports page/sport stalker near any large college town.

“this system is bogus because it totally leaves us out man.. it sucks because it makes the regular season useless man... it favors the teams from the east coast.. it favors team that have a history of giving money to the NCAA.. It’s all a conspiracy for ratings man.. It’s all about the money..”

If anyone in their right mind thinks this will even begin to solve the bitching and moaning, they’re in for a surprise.


31 posted on 06/26/2012 8:06:04 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Coach Leach was head coach for the Red Raiders in Lubuck , Texas . He was loved by the team and fans . Craig James ( ESPN ) got him fired . He’s now coaching for Washington . His autobiography is called “ Swing your Sword “ . Very cool guy .


32 posted on 06/26/2012 8:11:14 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Michael.SF.

Here is my idea, taken from English soccer:

You have x number of divisions of 13 teams each, the Top 13 comprise the “Premier Division”, each team plays 12 games within their division.....at the end of the season, the bottom 3 teams get relegated to the next lower division, and the top 3 teams in each division get promoted to the next level. The winner of the “Premier Division”, the team with the best record, is declared the “National Champion”.

Imagine a Premier Division consisting of:

Alabama
LSU
Oregon
USC
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Michigan
Ohio State
Texas
Boise State
Arkansas
Stanford
Nebraska

Each week, teams from these elite programs play each other, no creampuffs.


33 posted on 06/26/2012 8:22:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: goseminoles
Before the BCS when national champions were determined by polls, an independent team that finished the regular season with a #1 or #2 ranking always had the ability to accept a bowl bid to play against a #2 or #1 team. Major conference champions didn't have this luxury, so they were stuck playing in a predetermined bowl game and had to hope they got a matchup against a top-ranked opponent.

For example, let's suppose Alabama finished a regular season as SEC champion and they were ranked #1 in the country. Let's also suppose that Penn State was ranked #2 and Nebraska #3. As SEC champion, Alabama would play in the Sugar Bowl. As Big Eight champion, Nebraska would play in the Orange Bowl. Penn State, as an independent team with no obligation to play in a bowl as a conference champion, would simply accept the invitation from the Sugar Bowl for the "open" spot against the SEC champion -- which meant they'd be playing for the national title against the #1 team.

Nebraska, meanwhile, would go into the Orange Bowl in the #3 spot knowing full well that they'd never win the national title even if they beat a strong opponent by 40 points.

If the #1 and #3 teams were reversed and Nebraska was #1 going into the Orange Bowl, then Penn State would accept the Orange Bowl bid instead of a Sugar Bowl bid and Alabama would be out of luck.

This is why you had those independents like Penn State, Miami and Notre Dame playing in so many bowl games that ended up deciding national titles back then. As independents they were always in a position where they could get the most favorable matchup instead of being automatically assigned to a bowl as a conference champion.

Notice how Penn State stopped playing in national title games once they joined the Big Ten. Big Ten and PAC-10 teams always had the most difficult time winning national titles back then because the Rose Bowl was the one major bowl where BOTH teams were determined by conference titles. So if Ohio State was ranked #2 and was the Big Ten champion, they'd NEVER have an opportunity to play against a #1 Alabama or Nebraska and might even be forced to play a team that wasn't in the Top 10 but happened to be good enough to win the PAC-10 championship.

34 posted on 06/26/2012 8:39:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Positive
As an Alabama fan, I fail to see your logic. Unless you hope another team could have bested Bama thereby not having to face the 2011 NCAA Champions for the BCS National Championship.

A team that can only get past the 50 yard line (and not score) only once in a game does not deserve the Title.

Roll Tide (2011) War Eagle (2012)

35 posted on 06/27/2012 8:21:24 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
"As an Alabama fan, I fail to see your logic.

My post was "As an LSU fan... Geaux NCAA!". Pretty simple I was just saying I favor a playoff. The 2011 Rankings had LSU #1 and Alabama #2, I think they would have met in the championship under this new system too.

"Unless you hope another team could have bested Bama thereby not having to face the 2011 NCAA Champions for the BCS National Championship."

I was not in favor of LSU having to beat a team they had already beaten in Alabama for the championship. Not so much for fear of losing, but because it was pretty much a no win propositon for LSU. If LSU had won the rematch, non-LSU/Alabama fans would have said; "so what LSU beat Alabama twice, proves nothing". As it was, LSU was the better team one day, Alabama was the second day... proves nothing.

BTW, Alabama is not the 2011 NCAA Champion... You see there is no NCAA Championship yet. There was a BCS Champion. This new plan will create a NCAA Major College Football Champion for the first time ever.

One more thing, there was a 2012 SEC Championship...what would be LSU's.

"A team that can only get past the 50 yard line (and not score) only once in a game does not deserve the Title."

The team with the most points on the scoreboad wins... see, it's not a game of deserving it is a game of scores.

Roll Tide (2011) War Eagle (2012)

Tide's 2012 BCS Bowl is for the 2011 season. Whats the War Eagle (2012) about?

36 posted on 06/27/2012 10:29:08 AM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Positive
One more thing, there was a 2011 SEC Championship...what would be LSU's.

Sorry, my error on the year.

37 posted on 06/27/2012 10:33:22 AM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Now, instead of having endless debates about one or both teams facing off in the BCS title game, we’ll have endless debates about whether a #5 or #6 team should have been ranked #4 and included in the “national semifinals.”

When #3 complains that they were shut out of a system that only includes #1 and #2, many people would say they have a legitimate point.

When #5 complains about being left out of a system of #1-#4, fewer will agree.

When #9 complains about being left out of a #1-#8, most will scoff.

I think a 4-team playoff gets around most of the "issue", but would not be surprised to see it expanded to 8.

38 posted on 06/27/2012 10:37:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: shalom aleichem

Yeah...those poor dumb athletes are FORCED to do this.


39 posted on 06/27/2012 10:43:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: dfwgator
Um, over the last decade Wisconsin has been better than 10 of the teams listed in your so-called Premier Division.

If you're going to engage in sceince fiction, you should at least create a list the has a basis in suspending disbelief.

40 posted on 06/27/2012 10:48:29 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The problem with a college playoff system has always been, "What about the bowls?"

So, one game on New Year's Eve and the other on New Year's Day will suck viewers away from all the other bowl games with the two winners meeting a week later.

Want more teams in an extended playoff?

All the other bowls better get with the program and become a part of the playoff picture or they can only count on the eyeballs-on-the-TV and butts-in-the-seats of their participants fans.

Guaranteed 16 teams before 2020 and a lot of the lesser bowls going the way of the Dodo.

41 posted on 06/27/2012 10:50:13 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Positive

“Whats the War Eagle (2012) about?”

I am also an Auburn fan, I would like to see Auburn win in 2012 like they did in 2010. Nice to see the Alabama teams alternate.

And I see your point. Would have been nice to have this playoff system for this past year.


42 posted on 06/27/2012 10:34:38 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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