Skip to comments.Issa's Right: Tougher Gun Laws Fast And Furious Goal
Posted on 06/26/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by raptor22
Scandal: The head of the House oversight panel suggests the real reason for the administration's invoking executive privilege in the Fast and Furious case is to hide proof that the operation was part of a push for gun control.
Defenders of President Obama's use of executive privilege to provide cover for Attorney General Eric Holder in the gun-running fiasco that resulted in the deaths of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jaime Zapata may dismiss it as just another conspiracy theory. But the suggestion by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., that the deadly operation was conceived to advance the administration's gun-control agenda is quite plausible.
"Here's the real answer as to gun control," Issa said on ABC's "This Week": "We have email from people involved in this that are talking about using what they're finding here to support the basically assault weapons ban or greater reporting."
Issa was asked about the possible connection after comments he made at an NRA convention. "Could it be," he said on NRA News' "Cam & Company" program, "that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban? Many think so. And they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree."
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Of course. A false flag operation instituted to discredit American gun dealers in Arizona. Dead people were just expected collateral damage so they could gin up a crack down on legitimate American gun owners and dealers.
That’s what is hidden in the documents Issa wants!
Tougher gun laws was the intermediate goal. Disarming the American populace was a step to the ultimate goal of takeover of America by international socialism.
It is vital to realize that such a scheme would never work unless American lives were *sacrificed*.
Unlike the Columbus, NM massacre by Poncho Villa, that was enough to stimulate Americans to demand the invasion of Mexico to catch or kill Villa, Obama would never do *that*, because his objective was not for the Mexicans to be the bad guys, but for American gun sellers to be blamed for the death of Americans.
The scary part is to realize that the death of Brian Terry would not have been enough for this goal. So the intention of Obama and Holder was to *kill* even more Americans!
Obama and Holder wanted to *murder* Americans for their agenda! If that degree of ruthlessness doesn’t get to you, I don’t know what would.
And if they are willing to kill Americans for that reason, what other “agenda items” are they serious enough about to *murder* Americans?
H0lder needs to be sent into Mexico to retrieve “his” guns.
Take an oath of office and not uphold the law and lie under oath and wonder why he is held in contempt? The MSM has not covered the big story again and again and they wonder why the ratings are in the can?
I wonder how many of the Chicago deaths belong to Obama.
I believe the leader of this operation is in the documents that Issa wants. That leader is Barrack Hussein Obama.
This is a criminal enterprise.
Fast and Furios Ping
Not to “Editorial” which it is
Hats off to this young lady for an excellent job...finally we encounter a real journalist.
Bill Whittle of PJ TV did a video a few days ago aout the ideology of Obama and Holder - his take seems to be what is driving plenty of congress people and radio talking heads. The really good news is that now there are dozens of sites like PJ, Daily Caller, Examiner, etc etc to go with the long time work of Freepers. The wilderness is full of folks like us who want to expsoe the crap in government.
Bill Whittle of PJ TV did a video a few days ago aout the ideology of Obama and Holder - his take seems to be what is driving plenty of congress people and radio talking heads. The really good news is that now there are dozens of sites like PJ, Daily Caller, Examiner, etc etc to go with the long time work of Freepers. The wilderness is full of folks like us who want to expose the crap in government.
(They could practice in Chicago.)
Why is it that the Left goes ape$hit over the supposed revealing of Valerie Plame, whose name was actually in Who’s Who and was not an active agent in harm’s way, yet they cannot seem to muster a tiny bit of sentiment for Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, slaughtered by the lies, deceit and incompetence of Atty General Holder. The balance is out of whack, and it doesn’t serve their purposes politically to mourn the actual death of an American agent killed by their leader’s negligence, but they can caterwaul relentlessly for the exaggerated threats to a woman who was safely ensconced in her Washington home.
All I see is hypocrisy.
I thought the Plame story was trumped up when I heard it.
I thought Patrick Fitzgerald did a huge disservice to the country with that bull dinky prosecution of a non-crime.
Just like the communists.
Some people must die for the revolution to more forward.
If this is true, Obama has caused the death of 300 people.
Is jail time in his future?
As punishment for this underhanded and totally illegal and Unconstitutional scheme, the Government needs to lose a LOT of control over firearms. They have shown that they are NOT trustworthy with the current restrictions and these restrictions must be removed.
Nothing short of this will be acceptable.
Forget about “punishing” the officials who want this — they should simply be ousted.
The individuals that were responsible for this should to a person stand trial for mass murder. Then upon conviction, they should be placed against a wall and shot for their Treason.
But, the Government as an entity must also surrender some power because of the abuse shown by these individuals. Especially due to the attempted cover up and contempt not only for Congress but for the American People that is being shown by these scum bags. A power cannot be abused that is not there to be abused. The Government has lost all credibility when it comes to 2nd Amendment issues.
Well that’s supposedly what the Constitution is for. A Con Con may be needed to put visible and explicit teeth in this “living” document. If it’s alive then it ought to be able to bite.
I had an interesting conversation with MADem at DU - very nasty twit, but has 4 trillion posts so I thought I’d engage her. Not get engaged to her.
There is this really soul-less feeling over there that (CAPS for screaming borderline personality disorder) “THIS IS NOT ABOUT BRIAN TERRY IF THEY DIDN’T GET THE GUNS FROM F&F THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!.” While that in itself is a loaded statement, given the 3rd gun and the paid informants, keeping it unloaded ...
Does anyone notice the curiousness of this argument? (Not the callousness, the curiousness.)
(And I’m not talking here about the argument that “OK why don’t I just go sell some meth to the kids at Charlestown High School down the street, after all, they’ll get it anyway from somewhere.”)
Isn’t an argument that says ‘If it wasn’t Holder’s gun it would have been some other gun’ an argument that says “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people?” I knew it was too complex an idea to get across to the shrill sociopathic hag (as Ayn says - those who deny reason can not be conquered by it - just avoid them), but here in Boston there are 5 conservatives total, and I ran it by 2 of them (so 66.6% of Boston conservatives including me), and they thought it was kind of an ironic argument too.
Anyway - I’m new sort of. I know FR pretty well from reading for ten years or so ... thanks for having me. Oh I am a godfather to a cat with 26 claws which is two short of the world record. Polydactyl Maine Coon cats were very popular on British ships in the 16/17 hundreds ... thought to be good luck ... good friends ... and crazy hunters ... the extra two claws on each front foot form opposable thumbs. She’s very hungry and conservative and family lore says 1/32 Viking Indian. Can she play?
Forget about punishing the officials who want this they should simply be ousted.
Not only NO! But HELL NO!
These people, Obama and Holder, have killed in cold blood, you don’t just throw murderers out of office. These people need to be exposed and PUNISHED!
I have believed for a long time that Obama would not be the Democrat nominee for president for the next election and now I’m beginning to see why. Once Obama is exposed I just don’t see how he can continue to run. But then again I’m not very smart, I thought the semen stains on the blue dress would do Clinton in.
I wonder if Hillary will have any trouble beating Mitt Romnie.
I’m talking about thoughtcrime, not acted crimes. Trying to put a grudge over on a soulless object is silly.
Section 1Some people might think that section 3 is a bit over-the-top though.
The congress shall not have the power to regulate the value of the currency of the United States with respect to itself. The Dollar shall be equal to the one hundred twenty-eighth part of an avoirdupois ounce -- approximately 28.35 grams -- of gold, the impurities of which shall not exceed one part in ten-thousand,.
The United States shall assume no debt which shall cause the total debt obligation to exceed one hundred and ten percent of the physical monies under the actual control of the treasury.
The treasury shall make available to the congress and the public the total amount of the physical under the actual control of the treasury no less frequently than annually. Misrepresentation of this amount shall, upon conviction, carry the death penalty.
The one and only explanation left is that it was a deliberate act. And the only possible benefit the Regime could expect from such an act would be to gin up support for more gun control.
Im glad they are Finally Publicly saying these things, there is Evidence of exactly that. Just ask HILLARY the Beast,Diane Feinstein, Janet Napolitano who were touting the Lie That 90% Of the guns found in Mexico were coming from American Gun Shops,Fox at the time Debunked those Numbers. What Hillary and the rest were Doing was Pumping for Fast and Furious
That’s all this was about. It turned on them and bit them. They intended to claim that it was American guns that were killing people. Too bad there was a paper trail that was discovered when the border agent got shot.
Those hundreds of millions of dollars for the Clintons didn’t just come from speaking engagements and his retirement in such a short time. Wonder how deeply our government is involved in the drug trade?
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