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Border Patrol Being Taught To Run, Hide & Throw Things, Not Shoot
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 26, 2012 | Tim Brown

Posted on 06/26/2012 8:04:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It appears that the Obama administration is not only getting in the face of the American people with their immigration policies, but they are also running a little private campaign of their own when it comes to the border patrol. Instead of the border patrol doing their job in an aggressive case in public, they are now being taught to run away and hide and only as a last resort are they to open fire. Wait! No! They can’t do that. They are supposed to become “aggressive” and “throw things.

You heard that right. Local 2544 posted a brief statement in regards to the new “training tactics” they are being taught. Welcome to the new world of Barack “The Golfer” Obama and Janet “Can I have another doughnut” Napolitano.

In another nauseating series of “Virtual Learning Center” brainwashing courses that Border Patrol agents are forced to sit behind a computer for hours and endure, we are now taught in an “Active Shooter” course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to “run away” and “hide”. If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become “aggressive” and “throw things” at him or her. We are then advised to “call law enforcement” and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered). Shooting incidents cited in the course are Columbine, the Giffords shooting and the Virginia Tech shooting.

These types of mandatory brainwashing courses and the idiocy that accompanies them are simply stunning when they are force-fed to law enforcement officers. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that any three of the above shootings would have been stopped cold by an off-duty law enforcement officer or a law abiding citizen with a gun. The Fort Hood shooting would have been stopped cold by someone with a gun as well. The shooters in these situations depend on unarmed and scared victims. It gives them the power they seek. We could go on and on with examples of shootings that could have been stopped by someone with a firearm. One of the videos in this course actually shows a terrified female hiding behind a desk as an example of how to “hide” from some deranged shooter. Multiple quizzes throughout the course and a final test ensure repeatedly that we know that we only have three options when encountering some murderous thug in a public place. 1. Run away; 2. Hide; and 3. Only put up a fight as a last resort by acting aggressively and throwing things at the shooter. Not one mention anywhere of “if you are carrying a gun and you have the opportunity take the shooter out”. Calling 911 in these instances is obvious, but we all know that waiting on the arrival of uniformed law enforcement will ensure more people are killed, injured, or taken hostage. Telling law enforcement officers that in all instances they are to run away and hide from some thug while innocent victims are butchered is simply inexcusable and pathetic.

It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm. This, in addition to the scrutiny and second-guessing that will come from local authorities and the inevitable possibility of lawsuits and criminal conviction.

Welcome to the New Patrol.

This is the kind of thing that makes you want to pull your hair out. We are in the middle of an investigation where this administration used an operation, which was called Fast and Furious but should have been called Dumb and Dangerous, that put thousands of weapons into the hands of some of Mexico’s most dangerous drug cartels. Some of these weapons were used to kill American and Mexican citizens, including border patrol agent Brian Terry. They want their people to be weak and cut off at the knees while the real criminals face no handicaps. This is a demonstration of absolute stupidity on the part of the Obama administration who provide such non-sensical training.

It’s not bad enough that the federal government, under this administration want our guns, but now they don’t seem to want border patrol to use theirs either. What kind of fantasy world do these lunatics, who are running the asylum, live in?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; borderwars; brianterry; fastandfurious; guncontrol; jaimezapata; terry; training; unbelievable; zapata
Unbelievable...
1 posted on 06/26/2012 8:04:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gee, this will help border patrol recruitment immensely.


2 posted on 06/26/2012 8:07:28 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the better of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: doc1019

Well, there will be penty of jobs for the new gay soldiers when they come out (of the military that is)


3 posted on 06/26/2012 8:09:37 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How far must this man go before the American idiot who voted for him gets sick of this crap.If we wish to have a country left, he has to be voted out.


4 posted on 06/26/2012 8:10:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not surprising after seeing pictures of Obama bowling.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 8:11:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 8:12:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I suggest this ‘open borders’ thing with Mexico for Barry Hussein is more about keeping open the easy access for Islamofacist Terrorists (he is one) than it is to ukkegakkt allow Mexicans into this country.


7 posted on 06/26/2012 8:13:08 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“...ukkegakkt...”

Strike that!


8 posted on 06/26/2012 8:14:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Call law enforcement?
I thought they were law enforcement!.........


9 posted on 06/26/2012 8:16:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As Ramos and Compean can attest, if you shoot a drug runner, you go to jail.


10 posted on 06/26/2012 8:18:14 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid that is. I mean Dehydrated stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. It is trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. It emits more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know.
11 posted on 06/26/2012 8:18:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

12 posted on 06/26/2012 8:19:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


13 posted on 06/26/2012 8:19:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Are we getting border tips from the Canadians? The agents guarding their border are unarmed.


14 posted on 06/26/2012 8:24:13 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: Venturer

“How far must this man go before the American idiot who voted for him gets sick of this crap.”

The idiots who voted for him don’t hear about any of this. They don’t read what we do, listen to what we do or watch what we do (and yes, Fox News does report about most of these kinds of stories).

So they’re useful (to BHO) idiots because they’re totally unaware of all the harm he’s doing to our country. It’s a crying shame that they vote at all.


15 posted on 06/26/2012 8:24:43 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I was looking for The Onion or Semi-Satire source for this...


16 posted on 06/26/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In the famous words of Sen. Zell Miller...”Armed with what? Spitballs?”


17 posted on 06/26/2012 8:26:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Chode

If you are going to do the Ultimate Flame....post it all and give credit...

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don’t you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I’ll bet you couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won’t go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You’re a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren’t an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn’t really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us “normal” people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are “challenged” persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been “right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, Byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.


18 posted on 06/26/2012 8:27:09 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist

classic


19 posted on 06/26/2012 8:33:28 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

I wonder if the USBP upper-crust will hold a “run, throw and catch like a girl Olympics” next.

PING!


20 posted on 06/26/2012 8:34:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the chickification of the USA gets rammed a little further up our collective arses by the metrosexual in chief.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 8:43:37 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Does “throwing things” include Hand Grenades???
22 posted on 06/26/2012 9:22:41 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think that this can be properly referred to as “The Three Stooges’ Tactical Response”:

Duck!

Dodge!

Hide!


23 posted on 06/26/2012 9:32:45 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: tsowellfan

They can throw confetti and tinsel!


24 posted on 06/26/2012 9:53:49 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Okay, everybody calm down a second. Yes this training video does exist, but it was made for DHS office staff. It isn't intended for law enforcement officers and isn't meant to keep federal agent from dealing with an active shooter threat.. My office had to watch the same thing and laughed our way through it.
25 posted on 06/26/2012 9:58:07 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

One great thing about FR is direct accurate information like yours. Thanks for the insight to allow us the inside view.


26 posted on 06/26/2012 10:08:07 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: USNBandit

So why is their union complaining about it?

And furthermore, even if it’s just office workers being brainwashed this way, why are they being trained to duck, hide and throw things rather than blowing away armed thugs?


27 posted on 06/26/2012 11:11:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: USNBandit

OK, I get why the union would complain about it, even if not involving Border Patrol officers, but why would the upper management even come up with such an imbecilic idea, anyhow?


28 posted on 06/26/2012 11:14:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm. This, in addition to the scrutiny and second-guessing that will come from local authorities and the inevitable possibility of lawsuits and criminal conviction.”

“Welcome to the New Patrol.”

obama...purveyor of toxic waste.


29 posted on 06/26/2012 11:42:44 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They used to at least let them use rubber bullets - this is insanity -

same kind of insanity of his ROE for our soldiers - that has resulted in a hughe incrase in deaths - as our soldiers can’t hanve their weapons loaded on base _IN AFGHANISTAN - they can’t fir the first shot in battle - etc etc

g’night


30 posted on 06/26/2012 11:50:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You’re right. It is unbelievable.


31 posted on 06/27/2012 1:36:08 AM PDT by onona (Of course you have to say is like George C. Scott....)
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To: ScreamingFist
i only post the stupid part for stupid things, have no idea who wrote it, and always say it wasn't me if somebody congratulates me on it...
32 posted on 06/27/2012 4:44:17 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
DHS leadership consistently gets rated as one of the worst places to work in the public sector. Their reaction to everything is a new Virtual Learning Center lecture. Even when it doesn't apply to all staff, they make it mandatory for everybody.

All personnel in DHS were required to watch that workplace violence/active shooter lecture even though it wasn't geared towards law enforcement. Nothing in that lecture would preempt an agent from engaging a threat, as he/she should. It is no different from me having to watch a stupid video on foreign travel which doesn't cover my circumstances in that situation, either. These videos are made for office staff that aren't carrying guns and don't have the tools to deal with a threat within reach at their desk.

The flip side of the story is the BP union consistently complains about this stuff, but not important stuff. In my sector they fought requiring agents to use encrypted radios because they were concerned an agent my not be able to remember to download the keys every month. Instead they would prefer to endanger that agent by making all their comms in the clear. I haven't seen the union make a big stink about the Tucson sector policy that had members of Brian Terry's BORTAC unit using non-lethal rounds. I have seen the union complaining about switching overtime payment programs despite every agent getting a pay-grade increase in the middle the federal government fiscal implosion. The BP union is effective at getting what they want, they just don't seem to fight the important fights.

33 posted on 06/27/2012 4:56:51 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is outrageous, throwing things could put an eye out
and cause a law suit. We all know that people are not criminals until they go through
due process so if we just
show them we care they'll eventually turn themselves in and do the right thing or we'll
send a stern letter to their Mommys for bullying our meek law enforcement.
34 posted on 06/27/2012 5:04:13 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Chode; MNJohnnie
Chode [regarding a segment of a RANT]:
i only post the stupid part for stupid things, have no idea who wrote it, and always say it wasn't me if somebody congratulates me on it...
Chode, the first time I saw the rant, it was posted in this thread by MNJohnnie. I assumed it was original to him. I could be wrong.
35 posted on 06/27/2012 6:16:06 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Watched Major Garret interview the author of Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up, Katie Pavlich last Sunday. She said Brian Terry's patrol was armed with only beanbag guns when confronted with armed drug smugglers at the time he was killed.

DHS Sending Agents Into Drug Runner Territory Armed With Bean Bags, Katie Pavlich, 4 Mar 2011

36 posted on 06/27/2012 10:51:48 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, there’s always throwing stars, spikes, knives, axes, spears etc.


37 posted on 06/27/2012 10:58:54 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oops. Screwed up the first link.

Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up

38 posted on 06/27/2012 11:30:39 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Peet
this may help...

[Note: This little flame has circulated the internet for years. The first known post, presumably the original, was by Guy Macon 10/20/97]

39 posted on 06/27/2012 2:56:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
this may help...

[Note: This little flame has circulated the internet for years. The first known post, presumably the original, was by Guy Macon 10/20/97]
Thank you so much.

I should be ashamed of myself for missing the age of that. After all, if I can remember getting the first commercial internet spam ever[1] that there should have been a cakewalk.

They say the memory is the second thing to go. I can't remember what the first is.

p.

[1] Canter and Seigel's (may misery follow them) green card lottery.
40 posted on 06/28/2012 4:52:50 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Peet
no worries.. FReegards
41 posted on 06/28/2012 5:08:25 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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