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Blaming shooters for forest fires may not pass smell test(UT)
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^
| 26 June, 2012
| Dave Workman
Posted on 06/27/2012 5:04:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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The number of fires reported to be started by shooters seems extraordinarily high compared to previous years.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:04:54 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
I've shot in the the outdoors for years. I've NEVER seen a fire started by ANY shooting activity, even when tracer ammo was used.
On the other hand, I've seen a number of fires started by numbskulls: carelessly tossed cigs, forgotten cook fires, fuelling a running ATV while drunk, you name it. But never by a firearm or a bullet.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:10:17 AM PDT
by
jboot
(Galt by default.)
To: marktwain
Yeah I thought it was an odd claim. While its possible, its highly unlikely that a shooter will inadvertently start a fire.
I live near a shooting range and I’ve never seen it happen.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:12:50 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: marktwain
I find it VERY difficult to believe that shooters inadvertently caused 19 fires.
That said, when a bullet exits a barrel, it possesses a significant amount of energy. All of that energy is turned into heat before the bullet, and the things it hits, stop moving. If it travels a long distance though the air, it warms up a lot of air, and makes little heat when it lands. However, if it strikes something soon after exiting, it can make a considerable hot spot where it hits. It is conceivable, under the right conditions, that could make a fire.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:21:01 AM PDT
by
norwaypinesavage
(Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
To: norwaypinesavage
Now how many rounds are fired every year vs number of fires started by them?
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:26:42 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: marktwain
The trouble with proving this is that after the bullet starts the fire it is eaten by an eagle (that dies) and the evidence is gone.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:27:54 AM PDT
by
CrazyIvan
(Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
To: marktwain
The most likely source of a shooting-related fire would be some moron fring military surplus tracer ammo.
Why anyone would want to screw up their own barrels with tracers is beyond me, but nobody ever went broke betting on human stupidity!
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:32:15 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
To: marktwain
Cover story to hide the obvious.
Jihadists are simply carrying out what they were ordered to do. But relax, I am sure that Homeland Security is all over this. /s
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:36:42 AM PDT
by
RavenLooneyToon
(Tail gunner Joe was right.)
To: marktwain
This sounds like an episode for Mythbusters!
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:38:17 AM PDT
by
msrngtp2002
(Just my opinion.)
To: marktwain
The claim does not need to be true, only the claim will be sufficient.
Man made warming isn't based on anything but emotion.
Sorry MSM, this turd didn't stick to the wall.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:40:43 AM PDT
by
MaxMax
To: RavenLooneyToon
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:50:36 AM PDT
by
MCF
To: marktwain
These people will try anything to take guns out of the hands of gunowners. What’s next? Guns are causing hailstorms or flooding. I’m sure they can make up something. These people may think they are booksmart, but have NO common sense.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:54:29 AM PDT
by
Linda Frances
(Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
To: marktwain
They claim that there were 19 fires started by shooters but they have provided no name or witnesses to the allegation that I know of.
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posted on
06/27/2012 5:57:39 AM PDT
by
MCF
To: norwaypinesavage
“It is conceivable, under the right conditions, that could make a fire. “
LOL yeah right, if you believe the heat from a bullet passing through the air is a factor then I have a really nice bridge to sell you.
Under your theory people should burst into flames when they are shot. Heck what about all those paper targets out there. How many of those burst into flames
This is nothing but pseudo science being used as a lever to ban guns.
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posted on
06/27/2012 6:03:53 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: CrazyIvan
I thought it was the condors who were bullet hungry, please don’t tell me the eagles are doing it too!
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posted on
06/27/2012 6:04:57 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: marktwain
The MSM and the Odumbo administration flaks (but I repeat myself) will be quick to blame recreation shooters, but neither will likely mention that Odumbo’s dumbos have drastically shrunk the size of the fleet of tanker aircraft available to fight wildfires: http://monkeywrenchingamerica.com/?p=1412
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posted on
06/27/2012 6:11:54 AM PDT
by
Spartan79
(I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
To: driftdiver
Heck what about all those paper targets out there.
Yeah, and if that were the case, every shooting range in the country would be ordered closed by the feds.
I have been arguing this with the guys at my place of employment for the last three days.
I'm with ya, FRiend.
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posted on
06/27/2012 6:13:14 AM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
To: marktwain
Hollywood is the only place that copper jacked lead bullets make sparks!
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posted on
06/27/2012 6:25:11 AM PDT
by
jrd
(DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
To: CrazyIvan
Condors. That was what we heard yesterday. That they are dying from lead poisoning. Sounds like the anti-gun types are really grasping at any crazy notion that might sell. They must be flummoxed, after the Fast and Furious debacle, as to how to get their message across.
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posted on
06/27/2012 7:03:01 AM PDT
by
NEMDF
To: jrd
Hollywood is the only place that copper jacked lead bullets make sparks! I was thinking Bugs Bunny myself. Or maybe Wyle E. Coyote.
Six pack of beer for anyone that can reproduce this and put the video up on YouTube.
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posted on
06/27/2012 7:12:47 AM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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