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Issa escalates: Accuses Obama of involvement in Fast and Furious
American Thinker ^ | June 27, 2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 06/27/2012 8:01:07 AM PDT by kingattax

Rep. Darrell Issa threw down the gauntlet to President Obama in a letter to the president that accuses him of being involved in the Fast and Furious operation.

The Hill:

Issa took issue with Obama's assertion of executive privilege over a cache of documents at the Department of Justice - including a February 2011 letter later withdrawn by the agency - that Issa believes includes information on Holder's role in Fast and Furious.

"Either you or your most senior advisers were involved in managing Operation Fast and Furious and the fallout from it, including the false Feb. 4, 2011 letter provided by the attorney general to the committee," Issa wrote to Obama. "Or, you are asserting a presidential power that you know to be unjustified solely for the purpose of further obstructing a congressional investigation."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffexecutiveprivilege; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdercontemt; housecontemptvote; ice; issa; murdergate; obama; operationcastaway; rkba
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1 posted on 06/27/2012 8:01:10 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

In case you missed it...


2 posted on 06/27/2012 8:04:05 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: kingattax

Of course the m*^%#ers in the MSM do not believe this newsworthy. At least I haven’t heard a word about this from them yet.


3 posted on 06/27/2012 8:04:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kingattax

He will settle for Holder on a stick?


4 posted on 06/27/2012 8:07:45 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: kingattax

I like Issa being methodical where Obama basically backed himself in the corner.

I like how he initially said that he didn’t think Obama was directly involved (knowing full well he was) and then giving Obama enough rope to politically hurt himself.


5 posted on 06/27/2012 8:07:55 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Rather than being smarter than everyone else, Obama has simply never been challenged before. He has gotten a pass. Issa isn’t giving him a pass. Yesterday’s expedient lie may turn into tomorrow’s serious problem.

This case will be a true test of the power of the “new media” - since the SRM is completely ignoring it.


6 posted on 06/27/2012 8:14:02 AM PDT by karnage
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To: GraceG

BFL


7 posted on 06/27/2012 8:14:32 AM PDT by rocksblues (Being a Liberal means never having to mean it when you apologize.)
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To: kingattax
Obama accused Obama of involvement in F&F when he claimed executive priviledge.

Issa is just highlighting that fact.

8 posted on 06/27/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: kingattax
Obozo lied and Mexicans died
9 posted on 06/27/2012 8:16:54 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: MestaMachine
Mr. Obama, meet Mssrs. Paint Can, Brush, and Corner.

The paper/ink and broadcast (with the possible exception of FOX and maybe CBS - they're sniffing a Pulitzer if this all really blows up) media will ignore this, of course. That's a given. So it's up to the alternative media to keep the underground fires lit and burning. Sooner or later, like with a coal mine fire, surface cracks and cave ins will appear.

10 posted on 06/27/2012 8:17:11 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: kingattax

Only NY Slimes article I could find on today’s headlines:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/us/house-democrats-up-for-re-election-feel-gun-lobby-pressure-on-contempt-vote.html?_r=1&ref=politics

Maybe the news about Issa’s memo is on page eleventy-six.


11 posted on 06/27/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: kingattax

I have always wondered, of the documents Issa is asking for, how many has he already received under the table? I suspect soetoro and holder are wondering the same thing.


13 posted on 06/27/2012 8:20:33 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: kingattax

Find a whistleblower (a concept the left loves) and have him talk on Capitol Hill. Heads will explode.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 8:24:41 AM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: kingattax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr6eHza6JVI


15 posted on 06/27/2012 8:25:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: shooter223

I think he does have them and is holding the card close to his chest. I don’t think he would be this forceful if he didn’t.

*at least I hope*


16 posted on 06/27/2012 8:26:14 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: kingattax; Travis McGee
And Grassley escalates: Obama’s Actions Suggest Involvement in Fast and Furious Cover-Up

Hubba. Hubba. Hubba!

MurderGate ping.

17 posted on 06/27/2012 8:26:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: shooter223

Issa would make a great U.S. attorney general. Oh snap, he would probably make a great president!


18 posted on 06/27/2012 8:26:38 AM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: GraceG
I like how he initially said that he didn’t think Obama was directly involved (knowing full well he was) and then giving Obama enough rope to politically hurt himself.

Bingo. Nicely played by Issa, and a cookie for you in recognizing it. Issa's much craftier than than the regime.

19 posted on 06/27/2012 8:30:13 AM PDT by Dysart (Race card is tyranny. Don't be cowed.)
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To: kingattax

Looks to me like Issa wasn’t the one escalating the potential for a confrontation.
The more I see the more I am sure Obama wants to find some confrontation so big as to take the economy off the table and let him demagog the issue into President for Life, w/o elections, congress or the courts to second guess his reign.


20 posted on 06/27/2012 8:30:14 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Dysart

People on this board have been criticizing Issa for his pace, but I think he has been masterful. He is playing chess, thinking three moves ahead; Obama and such are playing an impulsive game of checkers.


21 posted on 06/27/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by In Maryland ( "... the [Feds] must live with the inconvenient fact that it is a Union of independent States)
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To: In Maryland
There is also a handful of us who have recanted our previous posts on Issa. Personally, I thought he was acting like a soundbite queen but can no longer deny he is turning up some heat and is playing a masters game.

Keep it up Issa.

22 posted on 06/27/2012 8:45:41 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: kingattax

Too bad there is no modern day Woodward and Berstein interested in a freakin’ Pulitzer Prize.


23 posted on 06/27/2012 8:47:50 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: frogjerk
(OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)

Wouldn't that be "DOGMEAT"?

24 posted on 06/27/2012 8:49:47 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: frogjerk

I agree with your remark about a whistler blowers. After congress finds Holder in contempt some people will start to feel the heat. Phone calls will be made to Issa for immunity. Then get out the popcorn.


25 posted on 06/27/2012 8:50:31 AM PDT by magua
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To: MestaMachine

Just a coincidence the neo-marxist Democrats had legislation all prepared once the F&F scheme worked out as they hoped it would:

Legislation Introduced To Stem Gun Trafficking
Bill by Reps. Maloney, Cummings, McCarthy empowers law enforcement to keep firearms out of criminal hands—

WASHINGTON – Today, U.S. Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Ranking Member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) introduced the “Stop Gun Trafficking and Strengthen Law Enforcement Act.”

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5376&Itemid=49


26 posted on 06/27/2012 8:53:49 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: hattend

IF Issa were a Democrat and Obama a Republican, the Democrat Propoganda Media (call them what they are, LSM or MSM or any other acronymn is merely covering it up) would be covering nothing else - they’d even supercede their sport’s coverage and their Zimmerman or Sandusky coverage for it.


27 posted on 06/27/2012 8:54:06 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Exactly right. Nixon’s scandal was every night, 7 days a week on the nightly news.

Nowadays... the Kardashians have new boyfriends!


28 posted on 06/27/2012 9:00:39 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: kingattax

Does that mean Issa is a racist?


29 posted on 06/27/2012 9:03:55 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: kingattax
And the elevator operator says, "going down."

5.56mm

30 posted on 06/27/2012 9:05:14 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

There have been numerous reports that Issa has an internal source who has provided copies of emails. Those apparently can’t be used so he’s seeking to get official versions of them.


31 posted on 06/27/2012 9:06:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: hattend
Wouldn't that be "DOGMEAT"?

No, dogmeat is not Halal, Obama Hussain would not touch it...

32 posted on 06/27/2012 9:09:12 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: kingattax

The audacity of arrogance is catching up with 0bozo.


33 posted on 06/27/2012 9:09:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: shooter223

34 posted on 06/27/2012 9:10:14 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: skeeter

I didnt believe it until I saw for myself. An ENTIRE WEB PAGE worth. Must give props to cBS on this attempt to scoop the other networks. :)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57461204-10391695/a-primer-on-the-fast-and-furious-scandal/


35 posted on 06/27/2012 9:11:53 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: kingattax

I appreciate Issa’s straightforwardness, Attorney General Issa perhaps ... His timing is good, the MSM were going to focus on Bobo’s campaign swing and exclude Mittens this week, but they’ve been forced to report on every single move Issa makes...


36 posted on 06/27/2012 9:11:53 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: shooter223
I have always wondered, of the documents Issa is asking for, how many has he already received under the table? I suspect soetoro and holder are wondering the same thing.,

Of course they know. The problem is what does Holder have in his files on the GOP congress. From experience we learned that our guys have plenty of skeletons in the closet and the democrats are not afraid to use it.

37 posted on 06/27/2012 9:12:20 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: In Maryland; kingattax
Hello FReeper "In Maryland",

You said ...

People on this board have been criticizing Issa for his pace, but I think he has been masterful. He is playing chess, thinking three moves ahead; Obama and such are playing an impulsive game of checkers.

... and FReeper "kingattax" said ...

Looks to me like Issa wasn’t the one escalating the potential for a confrontation.

The more I see the more I am sure Obama wants to find some confrontation so big as to take the economy off the table and let him demagog the issue into President for Life, w/o elections, congress or the courts to second guess his reign.

Question: Why could not Obama use Issa's investigation as a "racist" attack on his presidency? Do you think Issa's timing is such that F&F will come to a head after the November elections?

38 posted on 06/27/2012 9:18:44 AM PDT by ROTB (Forgive EVERYONE & pray in Jesus' name, with trust that He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Just a coincidence the neo-marxist Democrats had legislation all prepared once the F&F scheme worked out as they hoped it would"

Check it, at the page linked, the NYT yammering editorial was pre-sched to the minute -- but notably it had to be rather fugly reconstructed in light of the coming-to-light of F&F's illegal ops.

39 posted on 06/27/2012 9:31:08 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: P.O.E.

The story was released YESTERDAY. Issa sent the letter and gave it to the press in the middle of the night with the admonition that it be embargoed until morning. I first saw it in Washington Post.


40 posted on 06/27/2012 9:32:13 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: NFHale; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; kingattax; Impy

Kicking Obama’s butt ping!

Great letter.


41 posted on 06/27/2012 9:32:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: hattend
Too bad there is no modern day Woodward and Berstein interested in a freakin’ Pulitzer Prize.

Never happen.
Pulitzer Prizes are awarded by Columbia University - where Obozo once studied and they are heavily invested in him.
Nobody would ever win a prize for any journalism that hurt 'the won'.

42 posted on 06/27/2012 9:33:00 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: American in Israel; frogjerk
No, dogmeat is not Halal, Obama Hussain would not touch it...

Since Obama has already said he has eaten dog meat...I stand by my question for frogjerk.

43 posted on 06/27/2012 9:33:40 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: halfright

From the CBS news info that you linked: “The Justice Department disputes that, and says approving the wiretap applications doesn’t mean Breuer actually read the applications or was aware of the tactics of letting guns walk.”

I’ve seen this before but it bears repeating. Just because the wiretaps were approved doesn’t mean they were read.

That is a blatant violation of the Constitution. And if you think it only happend “this time” then I’ve got a nice piece of ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

BTW, how many search warrents to Judges approve without reading them?

An admission like this and nobody seems to give a damn.


44 posted on 06/27/2012 9:34:12 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: kingattax

Issa has a website that everyone should visit:

http://keepthewebopen.com/about


45 posted on 06/27/2012 9:47:19 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: shooter223
I have always wondered, of the documents Issa is asking for, how many has he already received under the table?

I postulated last week that he already had them ALL.

46 posted on 06/27/2012 9:49:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: halfright
You can thank reporter Sharyl Attkisson for the great coverage at CBS. No one has had better reporting on F&F than she has.

Follow her on Twitter: @Sharyl Attkisson -- she'll follow you back!

47 posted on 06/27/2012 9:55:22 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Lucky9teen

For those of us who read people’s faces for a living, that snapshot of Issa is pricelessly rich in detail.


48 posted on 06/27/2012 9:55:41 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: kingattax

Why try to hide something, if there is nothing to hide.

It’s very much like a judge once said about an accused invoking 5th Amendment protections in court:

“1: The person exercising their rights under the 5th Amendment has the absolute Constitutional right to do so.

2: The jury will be instructed as to that right and told that they must not, in any way, hold the exercising of that right that against the person doing so.

3: Back in the jury room, regardless of the instruction shown in #2, most jury members thinking someone “taking the 5th” is guilty as hell, otherwise, why not answer the questions?!?!”

So it it with Obama. Regardless of whether or not the claim of Executive Privilege is upheld, most Americans will think Obama has something to hide.


49 posted on 06/27/2012 9:58:58 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: kingattax
meanwhile.. Boehner charges ahead on contempt resolution for Holder
After a last-ditch appeal by the White House fell flat Tuesday, House Speaker John Boehner told reporters this morning that he will proceed on a vote Thursday to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for withholding certain documents.

Not sure if that is the same palm tree in the background Timmy Russert
interviewed years ago on Meet the DePressed.. if so, it's moved up in the world.

50 posted on 06/27/2012 10:00:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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