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32K ordered to flee as Colorado blaze doubles in size; Air Force Academy partially closed
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Posted on 06/27/2012 8:53:05 AM PDT by wk4bush2004

(CBS/AP) WOODLAND PARK, Colo. - A stubborn and towering wildfire jumped firefighters' perimeter lines and doubled in size in the hills overlooking Colorado Springs, forcing frantic mandatory evacuation notices for more than 9,000 residents, destroying an unknown number of homes and partially closing the grounds of the sprawling U.S. Air Force Academy.

Heavy smoke and ash billowed from the mountain foothills west of the city. Bright yellow and orange flames flared in the night, often signaling another home lost to the Waldo Canyon Fire, the No. 1 priority for the nation's firefighters.

Interstate 25, which runs through Colorado Springs, was briefly closed to southbound traffic Tuesday. All told, officials said, evacuation orders affected as many as 32,000 residents. Fire information officer Rob Dyerberg said Wednesday the fire grew by more than 12 ½ square miles late Tuesday to 24 square miles.

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WOW! This is insane! Prayers going up for Colorado!

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1 posted on 06/27/2012 8:53:12 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004

Feel the love from Democratic underground. Warning - may require brain disinfectant and keyboard sterilization.

Wildfire In GOP Libertarian Bastion Colorado Springs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002862150


2 posted on 06/27/2012 8:59:31 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: wk4bush2004

I violently object to way these tragic blazes are referred to as “wildfires.” These look to be intentionally set, but nobody wants to say or do anything meaningful about it.


3 posted on 06/27/2012 9:02:18 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: listenhillary

“Feel the love from Democratic underground”

Ok, now that just makes me sick to my stomach....


4 posted on 06/27/2012 9:02:49 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004

Colorado better begin “controlled fires” again....see what happens when you have wacky environmentalists try to tell you what is right....Hopefully this will teach Colorado and other states a valuable lesson. Of course, that is doubtful since they will probably say “Well after it is all said and done, it wasn’t that bad”....stupid liberals!!!!


5 posted on 06/27/2012 9:19:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: listenhillary

Sounds like FREEPERS on SOME threads when talking about liberals.....Politics are the same but just opposite sides of the spectrum. I guess the people in Colorado voted to cut the firefighters and now there are not enough.....I do believe those extra firefighters that they cut would probably be pretty helpful about now.


6 posted on 06/27/2012 9:23:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: wk4bush2004

Thank God that no eagles eggs were affected by DDT 15 or 20 years back when this all started.

Can you imagine the extent of the horror the environazis were able to stop.

This fire is the result, but it’s a small price to pay.

Written from my home, which is just outside the pre-evacuation zone. We’re packed and ready to go at moments notice.

I keep reminding myself, thin eagle eggs, or my home, which to chose, which to chose?


7 posted on 06/27/2012 9:23:35 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: listenhillary

I noticed, much to my astonishment, some of the follow-on comments were rather sympathetic. An amazing development for the DU crowd.

I do expect — once all the fires are put out — for Air Force One to fly into Colorado Springs and belch out Obama, who will oh-so-heroically show himself to the weary subjects and pronounce “We Will Rebuild!!”


8 posted on 06/27/2012 9:25:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: wk4bush2004
It's the libs fault; from my earlier post:

Forest Service lawsuits from by environmentalists brought on part of this — no road building, no logging, no thinning of small trees, no harvest of pine beetle killed trees. And after the fires no salvage of burned trees leaving them there to accumulate until the next hot, dry season occurs. Romney could argue healthy forests would prevent these disasters, irrespective of whether he believes the cause was drought caused by us nasty industrialized humans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2899957/posts?page=5#5

9 posted on 06/27/2012 9:38:18 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: July4
These look to be intentionally set, but nobody wants to say or do anything meaningful about it.

Wasn't there some jihadi website calling for range fires to be deliberately set this summer across the western US? I thought I remembered reading that. Funny, nobody's talking about that, now.

10 posted on 06/27/2012 9:40:50 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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Colorado better begin “controlled fires” again....

Colorado already does controlled burns. One of them up north wasn't put out and flared into a wildfire. No fault of the state however. Same situation for an individual and he would be buried beneath the jail.

Hopefully this will teach Colorado and other states a valuable lesson.

It hasn't taught dumbasses like you anything, it will have no effect on our libs either.

I was in this area last year cutting Christmas trees. Not overgrown, little brush, it is just very dry and hot here and even without fire the winds in the summer can be monstrous.

11 posted on 06/27/2012 9:40:50 AM PDT by xone
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To: Balding_Eagle

Good luck. I will pray for your home and family to be safe.


12 posted on 06/27/2012 9:45:13 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: xone

Dumbasses like me???? HAHA....I am not the one stupid enough to be going through these fires and voting to cut firefighters.....Complete idiots like you would be going through this rightfully so.


13 posted on 06/27/2012 9:45:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

The Forest Service is the agency that is responsible for training and coordinating firefighters from all over the country to fight those fire. A wildland firefighter can come from any place in the US as long as they’ve been certified and have signed up.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: NEMDF

Thanks, we have an interstate, I-25, between us and the fire, which is only a few miles from us right now.

It will be very difficult for the fire to jump the interstate. Difficult, not impossible, so we’re prepared.


15 posted on 06/27/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Hoffer Rand; July4
Found it. It was in wildfiretoday.com. Article was on May 2, 2012 and entitled, "Al Qaeda magazine encourages forest fire arson in the US." But they've removed it from their server. Hmmm.
16 posted on 06/27/2012 9:58:10 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: napscoordinator
Colorado better begin “controlled fires” again....

CO already does 'controlled burns'. However, having an IQ north of 85 automatically disqualifies a person from joining the Forest Service, and they do the 'controlled burns'. One earlier this year was a 'controlled burn' during high winds, up to 95 mph. You can figure out the rest.

17 posted on 06/27/2012 10:01:47 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: napscoordinator
Dumbasses like me????

Yeah, dumbasses like you. The acreage burning out west is bigger than most east coast states. The 'idiots' voting to cut firefighters can't vote to cut firefighters from the USFS. This state is 8 times larger than the east coast dump occupied by know-nothings dopes like yourself. The feds own most of it, the Fed land was burning, now it has come down into private land. Again, for the stupid east coasters like you, Coloradans can't 'vote to cut' federal firefighters.

18 posted on 06/27/2012 10:04:42 AM PDT by xone
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To: wk4bush2004

Bush’s fault.


19 posted on 06/27/2012 10:06:46 AM PDT by karnage
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To: xone

Oh well....big whoop. I am not involved. I am 100 percent glad to be on the East Coast!!!!! No fires around me....


20 posted on 06/27/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
No fires around me....

Wet BS doesn't burn, you'll be safe.

I am not involved.

Then kindly STFU about issues where you have no clue. We out west get enough almighty non-knowledge and proclamations from DC, we don't need it from Maryland.

21 posted on 06/27/2012 10:14:06 AM PDT by xone
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To: napscoordinator

Yes, the way to prevent massive fires is logging, grazing, and controlled burns to clear fuel.

When you have a hot enough fire, you lose topsoil that can take thousands of years to replace.


22 posted on 06/27/2012 10:14:11 AM PDT by darth
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To: xone

You pinged me you ingrade....You STFU and perhaps I will too...You communists sure like to stop freedom of speech.


23 posted on 06/27/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
You pinged me you ingrade

I responded to your post in hopes that you were educable, you aren't. 'Ingrade'?? LOL.

You communists

Yeah that's it! Please continue to post, your ignorance on this issue and your lack of compassion for the people affected says all that is needed in reference to your lack of character.

24 posted on 06/27/2012 10:32:13 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
I really don't see any political angle to this terrible tragedy. The idiots at DU might want to consider the fire above Ft. Collins took out a lot of houses owned by folks affiliated with Colorado State University, many of whom I assume were liberals. Fire doesn't give a damn about who its victims are.

We had a very dry Spring and recently have had day after day of over 100 degree weather. Yesterday we had clouds and wind gusts but no rain, which when combined with the heat really blew up the fires.

I have to agree with the Guv. I've seen lots of wildfires before, but never one that is invading a major city like what is happening in Colorado Springs.

25 posted on 06/27/2012 10:34:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: xone

I only have a lack of compassion for you!!!!


26 posted on 06/27/2012 10:35:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: July4
These look to be intentionally set, but nobody wants to say or do anything meaningful about it.

We were in that area last week on vacation. Stayed in the Manitou Springs / Colorado Springs area Monday and in Woodland Park Tuesday. As we were leaving Woodland Park Wednesday morning headed west we noticed a small plume of smoke, but that was 25-30 miles west of Colorado Springs. It certainly looked manageable at that point. On Thursday listening to the morning local news they said that arson was expected. I can't see how that fire covered 25 miles or so to be threatening the AF Academy and CO Spgs, so I'm wondering if the arsonist started more fires closer to those cities. We drove back through Friday close enough I would have thought we'd see smoke coming from anything new, but I didn't see a lot of smoke in that direction.

27 posted on 06/27/2012 10:42:29 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: July4
"I violently object to way these tragic blazes are referred to as “wildfires.” These look to be intentionally set, but nobody wants to say or do anything meaningful about it.

I am not sure where I heard this but I thought the muslums said something about starting wild fires of terror this summer?

Some one enlighten me because I know I did not dream this up just not sure where the information came from .

Now on a some what lighter side I have survived about 20 or so post over there with only 1 time being in front of the jury.

I have a celebration party for them after the November shellacking of Obama and the other libtards.

28 posted on 06/27/2012 10:44:17 AM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: colorado tanker
don't see any political angle

I don't either with this particular CS blaze. The past few weeks have been miserable. The threat of thunderstorms I can live with as long as we get the monster rains with them.

That said, CO needs to do more burning, in the fall and winter, I get my burn permits when there is snow forecast and light them up when the snow falls. No chance of the fire spreading and makes for a pleasant time.

29 posted on 06/27/2012 10:47:20 AM PDT by xone
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I only have a lack of compassion for you

To: wk4bush2004

Colorado better begin “controlled fires” again....see what happens when you have wacky environmentalists try to tell you what is right....Hopefully this will teach Colorado and other states a valuable lesson. Of course, that is doubtful since they will probably say “Well after it is all said and done, it wasn’t that bad”....stupid liberals!!!! 5 posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:19:17 AM by napscoordinator [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse] ________________________________________

Wasn't on the thread before this. Sounds real compassionate. As far as your compassion to me, keep it, it would be as fake and smarmy as your ideological brother 0bama's.

30 posted on 06/27/2012 10:53:16 AM PDT by xone
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To: wk4bush2004

Yes, prayers up for Colorado.

We have firefighters doing a monumental job working this fire. We had a terrible wind come through that just exploded and sent the fire raging down the mountainside.

I am PROUD of everyone in Colorado who is offering shelter to families, pets, food, supplies and PRAYER.

This is a terrible fire ... big, mean, nasty and determined. However, so is Colorado, big and determined and we WILL prevail.

Every person is a human being and in a case like this we are ONE. So, we are on our own and doing one helluva job. Keep up the good work Colorado and God bless all our firefighters ... especially those who slept on asphalt last night for a couple hours sleep. These are heroes and I thank them!!!


31 posted on 06/27/2012 10:54:05 AM PDT by cubreporter
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... but never one that is invading a major city like what is happening in Colorado Springs.

Agree, this is very sad and just about beyond comprehension. My 40 year reunion at the Academy is coming up and hope the area is not too badly damaged.

32 posted on 06/27/2012 11:00:32 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
It will be very difficult for the fire to jump the interstate. Difficult, not impossible, so we’re prepared.

In the Wallow Fire last year (the big Arizona fire), there were reports that it was creating new fires, from embers, more than a mile from the hot zone. Be careful, stay alert, and be safe. Wildfires create their own weather, so you can't put any faith in the local weather reports regarding wind, either.

33 posted on 06/27/2012 11:23:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: xone
That said, CO needs to do more burning, in the fall and winter

Unfortunately, bureaucrats seem to like to do these on bone dry spring days when there are gusty winds.

34 posted on 06/27/2012 11:48:31 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ken in texas

So far the Academy evacuation appears to be precautionary. Hopefully, the fire won’t go down into the structures. That would make a miserable tragedy even worse.


35 posted on 06/27/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: xone

Grow up mister....I have never witness a more liberal type in my life especially on Free Republic. I just wonder if you are even out of your parent’s basement.


36 posted on 06/27/2012 1:48:40 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: colorado tanker
Recall the US Government "control burn" in New Mexico back in '06/'07? Damned near burned down Sandia Laboratory. No telling what would have taken to ground if that happened.

Good luck to all in Colorado. Love the place. More familiar with western part of State-out around Rifle.

Lastly, Missouri/Arkansas are but one lightning strike/one match from becoming Colorado. Dry as Arizona hereabouts. 100 degrees. No rain in sight. None for a week or more in many parts.

37 posted on 06/27/2012 2:06:16 PM PDT by donozark (Col. C.Beckwith:I'd rather go down the river with 7 studs than with a hundred shitheads.)
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To: colorado tanker
Hopefully structures will be spared. Just got this picture of part of the cadet area from a fellow grad here in North Texas.


38 posted on 06/27/2012 2:10:23 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: napscoordinator
Grow up mister...

I don't take orders from pussies from Maryland.

....I have never witness a more liberal type in my life especially on Free Republic. I just wonder if you are even out of your parent’s basement.

Yeah I'm a huge lib, because I call you out on a subject with which you have no gouge, where you come in the middle of a thread and blame the victims of this fire for 'allowing cuts to firefighters', where the majority of posts are from people who know someone suffering or are suffering themselves and tell them they are at fault. Finally for calling you out as the typical know-it-all lib from Maryland who can contribute nothing but to take a figurative s%^t on the folks out here and pronounce your answer to our problems. When in fact your answer was already being executed and didn't work. Finally for being such a dope that can't understand after living in the sauna of Maryland that there are places with low humidity and real weather not generated by a hurricane.

BTW, both my parents are dead, thanks for asking.

39 posted on 06/27/2012 2:18:52 PM PDT by xone
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Oh well....I have zero interest in you that I have not even looked at your page or even when you signed up. That is how much I give a care about you and your ilk.


40 posted on 06/27/2012 2:36:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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I have zero interest in you

Good n00b, now go back to threatening plebes. Stay focused on something you know. Unless you want to apologize for your execrable behavior on this thread. Perhaps you could join in offering prayers for the Americans affected.

41 posted on 06/27/2012 2:46:41 PM PDT by xone
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To: ken in texas
That's a scary picture, FRiend.

We had some showers move through this afternoon. I hope the Springs did too.

42 posted on 06/27/2012 3:33:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: napscoordinator
GO AWAY......LOSER!!! I bet you can't find me at the DU!!!

I will make my presence known after Obama loses and the underground unlocks the site because of you libs talking suicide and leaving the country!!!

Promises and promises and every time you say this crap you still stay here in the good old USA!!!

If I sound like I am in a fighting mood it is because I AM!!

I have a back bone, I love my country, I hate liberals,and I have a new grandson!! I will try and educate him and after my death I hope I can make enough change to allow him to live the American Dream!!!

So as chef Ramsey would say "PISS OFF!!!"

43 posted on 06/27/2012 3:45:21 PM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: xone
I was in this area last year cutting Christmas trees. Not overgrown, little brush, it is just very dry and hot here and even without fire the winds in the summer can be monstrous.

So controlled fires won't work this summer. But they would work other years and would work outside of summer.

44 posted on 06/27/2012 4:03:51 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: xone
That said, CO needs to do more burning, in the fall and winter, I

ok, I didn't see this post, ignore my previous post.

45 posted on 06/27/2012 4:06:55 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: July4
These look to be intentionally set, but nobody wants to say or do anything meaningful about it.

Nonsense.

100+ degree bone-dry days plus lightening and there's going to be fires.

Colorado has been a disaster in the making for many years now. Massive residential encroachment into the high country coupled with misguided fire-suppression policies that won't let nature take its course has resulted in a whole lot of dry deadwood.

This was bound to happen.

I drove across the Rockies last spring and was distressed to see all the beetle-killed trees, acres and acres of them as far as the eye could see. I thought to myself, "One of these days this place is going to go up like the Hindenburg." And here we are.

Please, take off the tin foil. Us Colorado natives saw this coming for a long time.

46 posted on 06/27/2012 4:07:07 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: palmer
But they would work other years and would work outside of summer.

No doubt, and they should be pursued in the other months. I wonder if concern over Denver's air quality or tourism are the reason they don't burn in the fall/winter. A controlled burn this spring resulted in a large fire up north when the folks running the burn didn't ensure it was out before they left. This state has always used controlled burns, just not enough of them.

47 posted on 06/27/2012 4:10:59 PM PDT by xone
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To: colorado tanker
We had some showers move through this afternoon. I hope the Springs did too.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like they did: http://www.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KCOS.html

48 posted on 06/27/2012 4:12:27 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: xone

Well, I can say for sure it’s not easy. As a very small example I have a grove of eastern red cedar upwind (W) of my house. If there were a wildfire it would go up in minutes and take my house out with it. I have only done a little trimming close to the house, not nearly what I need to do. I am essentially relying on people upwind from that to have done enough clearing to stop a fire.


49 posted on 06/27/2012 4:21:10 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer
grove of eastern red cedar upwind

Big matches.

50 posted on 06/27/2012 4:23:38 PM PDT by xone
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