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US zaps target in high-stakes missile shield test (Successful Iran/Korea missile type Intercept)
Reuters ^ | 27 Jun 12 | Jim Wolf

Posted on 06/27/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by xzins

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces using a new Raytheon Co interceptor missile downed another missile in space in a high-stakes test of a shield built to thwart growing capabilities of countries like North Korea and Iran.

The mission off Hawaii late Tuesday was against a medium-range, separating ballistic missile, the Pentagon agency responsible for it said. The mock warhead split from the target's booster section, presenting what is supposed to be a more realistic attack scenario.

"Initial indications are that all components performed as designed resulting in a very accurate intercept," the Missile Defense Agency, or MDA, said in a statement Wednesday.

Richard Lehner, an agency spokesman, declined to say whether the drill incorporated decoys or other so-called countermeasures of the type an enemy likely would use to confuse the defense.

"We don't divulge presence of countermeasures in any of our missile defense tests," he said by email.

The United States plans to deploy increasingly capable versions of Raytheon's Standard Missile-3 through 2020 to help counter missiles that might some day be capable of delivering chemical, biological or nuclear warheads from Iran or North Korea.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abm; chicoms; comradeobama; flexibility; iran; kgbputin; medvedev; missiledefense; newera; newworldorder; northkorea; obama; openmike; reset; security; women
This is part of the ABM System that Obama hates.

Remember his unknowingly taped comment to the Russian president in the spring in which he said he had to wait until after the election to get rid of the ABM system.

He's putting our women/wives, children, and security in jeopardy.

Any war on American security is the real war on women.

Weakness is the prelude to attack is what military history teaches.

1 posted on 06/27/2012 12:58:55 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
Thank you Ronald Reagan.
2 posted on 06/27/2012 1:04:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: xzins

Press release: http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2117

Photos and videos: http://www.mda.mil/news/gallery_aegis.html


3 posted on 06/27/2012 1:06:57 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Carry_Okie

Amen to that.

Do you remember that the democrats at the time were pushing for total missile disarmament?

Not only did Reagan stand up to them, but he came up with the Star Wars counter, and with that and increased military budget, he checkmated the Soviet Union.

How I wish God would give us another Ronald Reagan.


4 posted on 06/27/2012 1:06:57 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: mvpel

What is remarkable is that they hit it AFTER it split from the booster.

It suggests a defense against Multiple entry warheads.


5 posted on 06/27/2012 1:11:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Carry_Okie

6 posted on 06/27/2012 1:14:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: xzins
The United States plans to deploy increasingly capable versions of Raytheon's Standard Missile-3 through 2020 to help counter missiles that might some day be capable of delivering chemical, biological or nuclear warheads from Iran or North Korea.

Because Russia and China would NEVER do such a thing...

Oh, yeah, it's Reuters.

7 posted on 06/27/2012 1:15:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie

And the LSM mocked Reagan claiming it was impossible (Star Wars). I hope the Gipper is having a hearty chuckle now.


8 posted on 06/27/2012 1:17:43 PM PDT by In Maryland ( "... the [Feds] must live with the inconvenient fact that it is a Union of independent States)
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To: Carry_Okie
Because Russia and China would NEVER do such a thing...

I'm amazed that we keep pretending Russia is toothless.

9 posted on 06/27/2012 1:18:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Force fields, flying cars and laser weapons (ones that go ZAPP!)

How come we can’t get the technology we were promised as kids?


10 posted on 06/27/2012 1:21:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: freedumb2003

I wish this government would shut the hell up.. for the love of bid already...


11 posted on 06/27/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: freedumb2003

I wish this government would shut the hell up.. for the love of god already...


12 posted on 06/27/2012 1:27:28 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: In Maryland
And the LSM mocked Reagan claiming it was impossible (Star Wars).

Stopping a multi-thousands warhead attack by a country with MIRVs and decoys, was, is, and always will be, technically and fiscally impossible. It will always be cheaper for the adversary to just build more missiles than for the defense to stop them. Star Wars would not have worked to stop most of an attack by even the current Russian nuclear forces if we'd spent the entire GDP of the US every year for 20 years on the project.

Using the test today as "proof" that Star Wars would have worked is like saying someone wearing a kevlar vest surviving being shot by a single .22 round is "proof" that the vest would ALSO protect the person if they were surrounded by a dozen guys with .50 machine guns each blowing through a thousand rounds.

13 posted on 06/27/2012 2:00:39 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Nope, but protecting the most strategic asset would have been a deterrent. It made a retaliation-free first strike real possibility.

You guard only a select number of missile silos, so that you can ALWAYS launch.

However, I disagree with impossible. Once the laser intercept is perfected, it is entirely possible to target massive numbers of incoming. And that makes both survivability and retaliation a real probability.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 2:05:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
I'm amazed that we keep pretending Russia is toothless.

They are toothless. With the exception around 500 ICBM's their military is a train wreck. Their fighter pilots rarely fly, their boomers(the ones that can actually put to sea) do at most 2 patrols per year, their once massive fleet of nuclear subs are now sitting, rusting hulks awaiting disposal. Their T-72's are in warehouses decaying next to their APC's. The ranks are rife with alcoholism and crippled by a lack of an NCO corps. Can I stop now?

15 posted on 06/27/2012 2:08:38 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan
can I stop now?

You could have stopped at...

500 ICBMs.

16 posted on 06/27/2012 2:10:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
500 ICBMs

I wonder what percentage of them will actually ignite, fly and deploy warheads when the button is pushed.

17 posted on 06/27/2012 2:19:16 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan

What percentage of successful launches should we consider absolutely safe?


18 posted on 06/27/2012 2:25:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: goseminoles

f & j


19 posted on 06/27/2012 2:27:14 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Strategerist
"Stopping a multi-thousands warhead attack by a country with MIRVs and decoys, was, is, and always will be, technically and fiscally impossible. It will always be cheaper for the adversary to just build more missiles than for the defense to stop them."

ABM defense systems should be lower cost than nuclear warheads, but our regulator debt regime keeps every built by our contractors overly expensive. Enemies can build much more per dollar than we can.

The default process is our special chance of solving our problem. Much of the revenue-sucking trash must and will go.


20 posted on 06/27/2012 4:31:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Strategerist

Correction:
...but our regulatory debt regime keeps nearly everything built by our contractors overly expensive. [Little haste there on my part.]


21 posted on 06/27/2012 4:33:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Strategerist
Your peculiar comment reveals a pervasive ignorance of the purpose and mission of SDI. No one ever said one system could stop thousands of missiles. What slop have you been sucking on?

You appear to be in desperate need of basic education. Cheers, and lay off the democrat bullshots.

22 posted on 06/27/2012 6:43:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Strategerist

Stopping a multi-thousands warhead attack by a country with MIRVs and decoys, was, is, and always will be, technically and fiscally impossible.

But, do they have multi-thousands of warheads?


23 posted on 06/28/2012 5:07:15 AM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Strategerist

“Stopping a multi-thousands warhead attack by a country with MIRVs and decoys, was, is, and always will be, technically and fiscally impossible.”

I believe Tesla would heartily disagree as he had solved this issue (war prevention) in the early 1900’s.

We as a society are very far behind where we should be mostly due to petty jealousies and greed.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 6:48:59 AM PDT by A Voice (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: xzins
"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"--Obama, 2008

From the campaign trail, February 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[not win it -etl]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on "hair-trigger alert" now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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"I will not weaponize space"

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"
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2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power

By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

25 posted on 06/28/2012 8:10:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: xzins
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012

"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.

This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."

http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
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Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...”

Obama: “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” That statement tells us much about the president’s mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president’s comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase “on all these issues,” implying more is at stake than just missile defense.”

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn’t be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/

26 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:15 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: xzins
Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow
Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 — linchpin of our missile defense — might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...

27 posted on 06/28/2012 8:12:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: xzins
Russia’s military spending soars
February, 2011

Russia has revealed details of its ambitious plan to upgrade its army over the next ten years, planning to spend US$650 billion on the project.

­The unveiled large-scale plans of the Russian defense ministry propose the spending of vast sums of money up to 2020.

First and foremost, Russian defense will focus on the development of strategic nuclear weapons, construction of over 100 military vessels for Russian Navy, including construction of four originally French-made Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, and the introduction into the Air Force of over 1,000 helicopters and 600 military planes, including fifth generation PAK-FA fighter.

Most of the military hardware will be equipped with next-generation weaponry.

http://rt.com/news/military-budget-russia-2020/
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China and Russia Launch Military Exercises
April 22nd, 2012 [Lenin's birthday -ETL]

China and Russia launched joint naval exercises Sunday in the Yellow Sea between the east coast of mainland China and the Korean peninsula.

Sixteen Chinese surface vessels and two submarines as well as four Russian warships will take part in the six days of drills. ...

China and Russia have conducted four bilateral and multilateral military exercises since 2005.

http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/04/22/china-and-russia-launch-military-exercises/

28 posted on 06/28/2012 8:13:15 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: xzins
The Putin-ChiCom-Chavez-Iran-North Korea-Obama "New World Order"

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We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world,” Chavez told reporters during a visit to Communist China, one of many. His “new world order” includes [RUSSIA], China, Iran,... and a significantly weakened United States, he explained.

Resurgent Communism in Latin America
by Alex Newman, March 16, 2010:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/south-america-mainmenu-37/3122-resurgent-communism-in-latin-america?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170287,00.html
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Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gEo4B1heuBvO6KK7EiBHKigO1UrA

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/specialreport/news/419496_88/1/.html
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad.
Note the "soul bro" handshake. (my caption)

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/17/2698451-obama-chavez-shake-hands-at-americas-summit
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From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

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"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/16/Iran_president_visits_Russia_despite_protests/
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The two sides [Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Russia] agreed to "promote and enhance friendly relations" in line with the joint declaration of July 19, 2000 and the Russia-DPRK friendship and good neighborly cooperation treaty of February 9, 2000.

Putin and Kim agreed during their talks to promote a Russian- DPRK political dialogue on the Korean issue and international affairs, and discussed many topical international problems, deputy head of the Russian presidential administration Sergei Prikhodko told reporters following the talks.

The two leaders spoke for an independent and peaceful solution to the issue of reunification of the Korean Peninsula, and against "any outside obstacles to this process" as "unacceptable."

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2001/Aug/17008.htm

29 posted on 06/28/2012 8:15:35 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Carry_Okie
"delivering chemical, biological or nuclear warheads from Iran or North Korea..."

Because Russia and China would NEVER do such a thing... Oh, yeah, it's Reuters.

See posts beginning at 25.

30 posted on 06/28/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Carry_Okie
Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"
CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
31 posted on 06/28/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"

I am certain that "We" (the communitarian elite) do.

32 posted on 06/28/2012 8:39:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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