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Matthews Slimes: John Roberts Doesn't Want to be Like Slave Judge Behind Dred Scott
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Posted on 06/27/2012 6:07:03 PM PDT by chessplayer

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To: skeeter

Because he sided with the liberals on much of the just decided Arizona case.


51 posted on 06/27/2012 8:57:40 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: skeeter

Because he sided with the liberals on much of the just decided Arizona case.


52 posted on 06/27/2012 9:07:54 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: originalbuckeye

“Dear Lord, PLEASE help us save the best medical care system in the world...”

Amen!


53 posted on 06/27/2012 9:11:48 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: chessplayer

Obamacare is the big ticket TO slavery, for us and our descendents. Why in the name of God would any justice want to be the deciding vote TO enslave the population of America to a socialist catastrophe that will certainly impoverish us all and return America to slave state status?


54 posted on 06/27/2012 9:15:11 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (Take that... Statist Slime!)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
Wonder if Justice Thomas (who officiated at one of Rush's weddings) passed some good info to him.

No way!

Thomas has too much genuine integrity not to say and Rush has too much genuine integrity that would prevent him from asking.

55 posted on 06/27/2012 9:31:48 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: chessplayer
We have to understand these moral mutants. Whenever they have no answers, they reach for the Race Card as if it were a Get-out-of-jail-free-card . . .


56 posted on 06/27/2012 10:02:31 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: KC_Lion

It always sickened me to know that I agree with Charles Manson about the Supreme Court. Nine people telling 300,000,000 people what to do.


57 posted on 06/27/2012 10:10:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: chessplayer

Without original intent, there are NO real limitations on what the federal government can do.

The problem for us it that R’s have also supported unconstitutional, big-government legislation for decades. And we continue to nominate candidates who do not believe in limited constitutional government nor their oath of office.


58 posted on 06/27/2012 10:51:52 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: lovesdogs

He was quite coy about the source and in his comments. But it was along the lines of don’t be shocked about what you see from Roberts.


That doesn’t sound good.


59 posted on 06/27/2012 11:15:08 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Boogieman

I agree, I think the left will con you with this do things our way and you’ll be a hero, don’t do things our way and you’ll be Roger Taney, etc. Roberts and Kennedy can be bought off in my opinion.


60 posted on 06/27/2012 11:28:17 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: Boogieman

I agree, I think the left will con you with this do things our way and you’ll be a hero, don’t do things our way and you’ll be Roger Taney, etc. Roberts and Kennedy can be bought off in my opinion.


61 posted on 06/27/2012 11:28:22 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: chessplayer

Thursday will end up being as big a Historical event as the German attack on Pearl Harbor.

John Belushi will be spinning in his grave.


62 posted on 06/27/2012 11:29:20 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: skeeter

The delays on these cases have me concerned as well, this ruling was supposed to come out last week and it’s been put on hold till tommorrow. Something fishy is going on like someone like Axelrod saying we have some damaging info on your Justice Roberts or Justice Kennedy, vote our way and it won’t come out. Arizona decision concerns me as well.


63 posted on 06/27/2012 11:31:43 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: skeeter

The delays on these cases have me concerned as well, this ruling was supposed to come out last week and it’s been put on hold till tommorrow. Something fishy is going on like someone like Axelrod saying we have some damaging info on you Justice Roberts or Justice Kennedy, vote our way and it won’t come out. Arizona decision concerns me as well.


64 posted on 06/27/2012 11:32:09 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: PastorBooks

Pardon me - but surely it isn’t so much a matter of saving the best medical system in the world, but of saving yourselves from slavery?

You will become distinctly less free if Obamacare is upheld.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 1:19:03 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SecAmndmt

The problem for us it that R’s have also supported unconstitutional, big-government legislation for decades.

The GOP has always been the big government, no original intent party. It wasn’t until Reagan pulled some conservative little government types into the party that the GOP became conservative to any measurable degree.


66 posted on 06/28/2012 2:48:24 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Tzimisce

“Chris Mathews is a millionaire

Think about that while you’re job hunting. :)”
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Just further evidence that the MERITOCRACY is dead and IDIOCRACY is a documentary on the era.


67 posted on 06/28/2012 4:41:29 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: chessplayer
An overall view here...

Obamacare is an unjust law, and as such is not really a valid law. More on that below.

My take on the SCOTUS vote that will probably be announced today (deciding on two issues - the Obamacare mandate and Obamacare itself):

4 in favor: the four Socialist amigos will have decided as a block (kind of like a SCOTUS stronghold).
3 against: Scalia, Thomas, and Alito (our freedom-loving, Constitution-loving Justices).
Unfortunately, that means only one of the remaining two is needed to decide in favor of Obamacare.
2 uncertain: Kennedy (as usual) and Roberts (suprisingly).
The Kennedy vote depends which side of the bed he rose up the day of the decision. If for some reason Kennedy has voted against both issues, then we still may have a Roberts problem, because he is apparently loathe to overturn the legislature.

However, if SCOTUS blows it, the game isn’t over. The states can and must do as Idaho did: nullify Obamacare and exempt its citizens from its mandates.

Back to what we call "law." The highest Law of the Land of course is the U.S. Constitution which trumps any other law that violates it. I'm sure you know this, but it's probably worth saying that in this sense, this "solid four" (or "socialist four") is for overturning the Law of the Land in favor of said "laws" like Obamacare that helps create a Socialist state. Because Obamacare is illegal (outside U.S. Constitutional bounds) and unjust (wrongly interfering with individual liberty) it is, therefore, as Augustine and Blackstone say below, NO LAW.

More on this below if interested from the Philosophy of Law:

[T]he Overlap Thesis underlies the classical naturalism of Aquinas and Blackstone. As Blackstone describes the thesis, "This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original" (1979, p. 41). In this passage, Blackstone articulates the two claims that constitute the theoretical core of classical naturalism: 1) there can be no legally valid standards that conflict with the natural law; and 2) all valid laws derive what force and authority they have from the natural law. On this view, to paraphrase Augustine, an unjust law is no law at all. http://www.threes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1409:philosophy-of-law&catid=75:philosophy&Itemid=60

68 posted on 06/28/2012 4:49:31 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jeff Chandler
Or maybe not. They view nationalized health care as a human right, and that colors the worldview.
69 posted on 06/28/2012 5:05:33 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: chessplayer
Malaria's a bitch, Chrissy.

The decision is made. Bobocare is going down.

70 posted on 06/28/2012 5:08:40 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: chessplayer

Forcing me to purchase government products sounds like plantation living to me.


71 posted on 06/28/2012 5:18:02 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: chessplayer

Roger Taney was a Democrat!


72 posted on 06/28/2012 5:18:17 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Heart of Georgia
"If I’m understanding (the best I can remember), it was due to the court actually being divided 4 to 4, and if Roberts hadn’t switched sides, Arizona would have lost completely for some reason."

Voting with the majority allowed him to assign the case to Kennedy and together they saved Section 2B "show me your papers", while they lost the other three parts of SB1070, which was basic enforcement of the federal laws -- thusly Scalia's awesome wig-out in dissent.

73 posted on 06/28/2012 5:20:24 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: PapaNew

How can a state opt out of federal law? Seems like we fought a war about that..


74 posted on 06/28/2012 5:22:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Actually we fought a couple of wars about this. The Civil War dealt with the injustice of slavery and the federal government forced the result. But before that we had the Revolutionary War and created a Constitution limiting government. Nullification would be more like the Revolutionary War, justified by things like natural law, the individual’s unalienable rights, and the Constitution confirmed by the 9th and 10th Amendments.


75 posted on 06/28/2012 5:39:09 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: chessplayer
the Civil War-era high judge who delivered the majority opinion in the Dred Scott Case and upheld the Fugitive Slave Act.

Maybe because Taney knew the Fugitive Slave Act had already been upheld as Constitutional by an Appeals Court for the US Supreme Court in 1835.

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In my fantasies, Prissy Crissy's 'living Constitution' actually comes to life and strangles his stupid ass.

76 posted on 06/28/2012 6:58:11 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Steelers6

Looks like our intuition was correct.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 7:43:29 AM PDT by skeeter
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