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North Korea facing worst drought in 100 years
The Telegraph ^ | 27 June 2012 | Staff

Posted on 06/27/2012 7:09:27 PM PDT by moonshot925

North Korean soldiers have been dispatched to water crops that are withering in the worst drought to affect the country in more than a century, with the United Nations warning that yields for staples such as wheat, barley and potatoes will inevitably be affected.

The state-run KCNA news agency said temperatures have been as much as eight degrees higher than usual for May and June and, combined with historically low levels of precipitation, have left rice paddies dried and cracked. The maize crop stands a mere 15 inches tall in many places in North and South Hwanghae provinces, instead of the 60 inches that it should be by now, farmers said.

Nearly 50,000 acres in western parts of the country - known as the breadbasket of North Korea - have been affected by the drought, which will worsen an already acute food shortage. In September, the United Nations World Food Programme warned that 3.5 million people were at risk of malnutrition and starvation in North Korea, which has a total population of 24 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drought; famine; korea; north
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1 posted on 06/27/2012 7:09:42 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

I have a great question for the floor.

Would it be considered immoral or unethical to pray for rain for NorK-land because doing so would only drag the suffering on even longer for the North Korean people?


2 posted on 06/27/2012 7:17:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: moonshot925

Too bad, so sad, the NoKos know now what they need to do.


3 posted on 06/27/2012 7:19:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: moonshot925

In other words: “Puhleeeese Japan and China, send us more rice!”


4 posted on 06/27/2012 7:20:25 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A pity, South Korea has no such problem!


5 posted on 06/27/2012 7:29:32 PM PDT by AU72
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To: struggle
“Puhleeeese Japan and China, send us more rice!”

I don't think the Chinese would be so willing. Last time the Chinese sent a train load of rice as "a gift to the Korean People", Chia Pet Sr. kept the rice, the train cars, and the locomotives. Said they were all "part of the gift".

6 posted on 06/27/2012 7:59:40 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: AU72

Uhhh...given the weather here the last several weeks and no rain/upper 90’s expected here for the next seven days, I’m not taking a political spin on this. I hope they get rain. I hope we get rain.


7 posted on 06/27/2012 8:00:32 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: AU72

Fatso won’t be missing any meals.


8 posted on 06/27/2012 8:01:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AU72

The Soviet Union generally had terrible weather from 1917 to 1991 or so. It really devastated their ability to produce adequate supplies of crops like wheat. After 1991, the weather got better.


9 posted on 06/27/2012 8:02:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: moonshot925

The maize crop stands a mere 15 inches tall in many places in North and South Hwanghae provinces, instead of the 60 inches that it should be by now, farmers said.


Wow. Thats really horrible.


10 posted on 06/27/2012 8:03:52 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, funny how deadly droughts only affect dictatorships.


11 posted on 06/27/2012 8:06:37 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Our man in washington

So obama is the cause of drought in the US? Good grief. I can’t believe the comments in here.


12 posted on 06/27/2012 8:13:04 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Our drought is not deadly. We are having some troubles, yes, but nobody is dying.

Look, I wish the best for North Korea. If they were a free country, however, this drought would be a mere annoyance and nobody would be facing death.


13 posted on 06/27/2012 8:20:07 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: moonshot925

Communism causes bad weather.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 8:26:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1254 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: ClearCase_guy

This is empirical evidence that there is a God and he does not like socialism. National Review used to have a joke where each year they projected a drought in the Soviet Union. Rhodesia rarely suffered droughts. Zimbabwe is suffering from annual droughts.


15 posted on 06/27/2012 8:32:10 PM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Vehmgericht

I would bet Venezuela is too.


16 posted on 06/27/2012 8:33:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ClearCase_guy; null and void

The collectivized agriculture of the USSR was very inefficient. Yields of grain, barley, rye, corn, maize and potatoes were often much lower than expected.

For example, during the Sixth 5 Year Plan(1956–1960) the Soviet central planners expected to produce 175 million tons of grain. But the actual production of grain was only 112 million tons. 36% lower than expected.


17 posted on 06/27/2012 8:43:46 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Obvious propaganda. North Korea is a free, happy, communist utopia run by their Dear Leader god.


18 posted on 06/27/2012 8:45:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: moonshot925

3.5 million could die in a nation of 24 million.

Not saying they all are, but can you imagine 3.5 million hardcore communists just dying and not having to fire a single bullet?

A few droughts like these and there won’t be anyone LEFT in North Korea to be a threat.


19 posted on 06/27/2012 8:47:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

God will choose who goes when. Drought or not. It may be a blessing in disguise for many as it will be an end to suffering. However they may be better off living because if they don’t know Christ, the suffering they have now is nothing to the suffering that awaits those who don’t have Christ as Lord and Savior. So He may be extending their lives to reach as many of them as possible before it’s too late.


20 posted on 06/27/2012 8:50:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Our man in washington

Lots of animals have died as part of the drought. Talk to Texas. Cattle and horses took huge hits. Plus drought in those areas and others has really nailed hay crops this year.


21 posted on 06/27/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t think the people of North Korea are interested in communist ideology.

They must be tired of starving in an underdeveloped and extremly militarized police state.


22 posted on 06/27/2012 9:02:05 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
They must be tired of starving in an underdeveloped and extremly militarized police state.

Well then they need to do something about it.

23 posted on 06/27/2012 9:02:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Secret Agent Man

the horses died because horse slaughter and horse export was outlawed.


24 posted on 06/27/2012 9:03:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Jack Hydrazine

whats so great about dying?


25 posted on 06/27/2012 9:08:12 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: mamelukesabre

These were not food horses, folks.


26 posted on 06/27/2012 9:11:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: dfwgator

What are they going to do? Start a revolution?

North Korea is the most militarized country in the world with 1.1 million armed personnel and a reserve force of 8.3 million.

It operates an enormous network of military facilities scattered around the country and the third largest chemical weapons stockpile in the world.

Kim Jong-un is insane. He would have no problem with killing thousands or even millions of his own people.


27 posted on 06/27/2012 9:13:00 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: InvisibleChurch

What’s so great about suffering under the brutal fist of a collectivist dictator?


28 posted on 06/27/2012 9:19:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Where there’s life, there’s hope.


29 posted on 06/27/2012 9:25:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They would’ve been if it wasn’t outlawed.


30 posted on 06/27/2012 9:54:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: InvisibleChurch

Hope for?


31 posted on 06/27/2012 10:23:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: moonshot925

The Leftists always seem to get the short end of the stick of the ‘unexpected.’


32 posted on 06/27/2012 10:28:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: moonshot925

Turning North Korea into a free, capitalistic country would be the definitive solution to all of their ongoing problems, and ditto, to all of the other countries of the world. Worldwide conservatism and worldwide capitalism should, always, be the ultimate goal of all conservatives, everywhere in the world.


33 posted on 06/27/2012 10:34:18 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: moonshot925
Amazing how "drought" seems to hit Communist countries repeatedly doesn't it?

While right over the border their neighbor is producing more food then they can eat.

Very strange.

34 posted on 06/27/2012 10:37:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Demons run when a good man goes to war)
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To: Secret Agent Man
> Not saying they all are, but can you imagine 3.5 million hardcore communists just dying and not having to fire a single bullet?

"Hardcore communists"? I'm sure some are.

But in general, the "hardcore communists" aren't the ones dying of starvation. They're living the good life as members of the Party.

Poor mothers having to watch as their young children die of starvation and sickness in a commie hellhole, and destitute fathers having to watch as their families, homes, and land all go down the toilet because of their insane corrupt leaders and government, are not "hardcore communists" at that point. They're just human beings being killed painfully by the totalitarian regime they suffer daily under.

That said, I'm all in favor of every communist on earth being sent to meet their Maker, and if it can be done without having to shoot them, that's fine.

35 posted on 06/27/2012 10:46:14 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: moonshot925
with the United Nations warning that yields for staples such as wheat, barley and potatoes will inevitably be affected.

There goes that great North Korean beer and vodka.

36 posted on 06/27/2012 11:41:42 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: moonshot925

We’re stupid, and we’re starving.

Do something about it, you evil capitalist pigs.


37 posted on 06/28/2012 12:11:26 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: AU72

“A pity, South Korea has no such problem!”

LOL, I guess even rain clouds are scared to cross the DMZ.


38 posted on 06/28/2012 3:36:37 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The Soviet Union generally had terrible weather from 1917 to 1991 or so. It really devastated their ability to produce adequate supplies of crops like wheat. After 1991, the weather got better.”

Agree, from what I can tell, there’s never been a crop problem in the past two decades over there.


39 posted on 06/28/2012 3:37:40 AM PDT by BobL
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To: moonshot925

what’s with the “everybody wear the same thing” idea? guess that’s part of their programming...down do the yellow hair thing. A school, maybe? Odd that this picture was released.


40 posted on 06/28/2012 3:46:07 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Hope for?...

Being freed from oppression? Living better quality life? Having hope doesn't depend on having an explainable philosophical reason for hope.
41 posted on 06/28/2012 3:49:00 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ZinGirl

Not odd at all for a totalitarian state.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 3:50:35 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Vehmgericht
"This is empirical evidence that there is a God and he does not like socialism."

He must not have liked Oklahoma much during the 30's either.


43 posted on 06/28/2012 4:02:15 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Resettozero
I agree....I meant odd that this particular photo was released. The article opens with "North Korean soldiers have been dispatched to water crops...."

They are a messed up country forever sending out messed up messages. Guess you can only pack so much into a photo.

(btw...the girl in the front is so pretty. I find myself wondering what goes through her mind...like, "why are we handwatering like we did thousands of years ago...has technology not advanced beyond this yet?" but i suppose the reality is years of dictatorship has driven out any such musings.)

44 posted on 06/28/2012 4:04:12 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Vehmgericht
This is empirical evidence that there is a God and he does not like socialism.

What's it going to look like in the USA when His "dislike" of abortion is manifest?

45 posted on 06/28/2012 4:08:52 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Traveler59

>>I don’t think the Chinese would be so willing. Last time the Chinese sent a train load of rice as “a gift to the Korean People”, Chia Pet Sr. kept the rice, the train cars, and the locomotives. Said they were all “part of the gift”.

I remember that. The Japanese will keep sending them rice though.


46 posted on 06/28/2012 5:00:38 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Hope for?

LOL! Even the flowers in Terry Schaivo's hospital room was allowed to have water.

47 posted on 06/28/2012 5:04:21 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: ZinGirl

Now I understand better what you were saying.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 7:01:17 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

It’s nice to have that feeling of expecting or desiring an improvement in the lives of the North Korean people but as Benjamin Franklin is quoted as saying,

“He that lives upon hope will die fasting.”

A change in the current situation of the North Korean people either will come from the people themselves or from an external source. That external source could be from other countries using their political, economic, and/or military power or from nature in the form of drought or other calamities.

With this current drought (as well as past droughts) in tandem with nations not sending humanitarian aid to ease their suffering the NorK government can only last so long before it collapses.

If we pray for a quicker collapse of the regime it could influence a longer drought. That’s why I ask if it would be immoral or unethical to pray for rain for them because it would only end up extending the life of the Un’s regime.


49 posted on 06/28/2012 7:31:19 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I meant to say more clearly that there is no limit to hope or the means by which hope may be fulfilled. You’re thinking inside the box regarding ways hope can be satisfied; think bigger.

As for how and what to pray for...it’ll come to you.

Ol’ Ben must have been having a doozy of a day that day. Sure do disagree with him on this quote. Or was it Poor Richard’s opinion instead?


50 posted on 06/28/2012 7:48:55 AM PDT by Resettozero
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