Skip to comments.Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W
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“Roberts is a constitutionalist, not a conservative..”
You might want to read Scalia’s dissent. The Constitution gives Congress the power to determine who is a citizen. It says nothing about controlling the borders.
Nothing works right any more...
"Tom: One disclosure re the health care cases: Kevin and I filed a brief for the AARP in support of the mandate. But our client knew that we'd be objectively reporting on the decision."
Now we find out that he actually represents AARP and filed a brief in the case urging that the mandate be upheld.
Who ever said Lefty lawyers weren't slimy bastids?
Today is proof that the system is the challenge.
My Magic 8 Ball is on the fritz as well.....
37 minutes to a new birth of freedom.
The states cannot pass any law pertaining to immigration and naturalization policies.
But, your fears are indeed justified
So, what is a state to do?
Time to jump all over the backside of the state attorney general
document, and place a dollar amount, on everything that the illegal’s have cost, including attacks on citizens.
sue the federal government for said costs..
Have the ninth circus rule that the states cannot sue the feds..
Appeal to supreme court
Win your case
Perhaps, with a little forethought, arizona could have taken this action first, instead of trying to pass a law that could, would and should never pass constitiutional muster..
more like an hour, two ruling will be ahead of it.
I'm afraid you're wrong.
Ruling in favor of Ocare is obviously trouble for the republic. Ruling against, and otherwise a lame duck Marxist in the whitehouse for half a year? Like an alcoholic locked in a liquor store. What damage could he do?
We discussed ad infinitum why Roberts joined the majority for SB1070. Roberts is going to be solid on this one.
Just found thread!! Cant watch on TV, will follow here. I am a nervous wreck, lol. Either too much coffee or afraid that the court upholds this damn thing
Just wanted to make a note here to remind everyone that the Obamacare legislation did NOT include a SEVERABILITY CLAUSE which legally means that if SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, then the entire law SHOULD be scrapped, immediately.
It is irrelevant. The infrastructure is in place. The HHS has already written rules. Money has already been paid in. The insurance companies have already made significant changes. Jobs have been created.
If Obama wins this, he declares it is only the first part of the new law and that much more has to be done. That will be the nod to his constituencies.
If Obama loses, same thing applies.
The most important aspect of this entire program that is not being addressed is this. This program is Cloward Piven on steroids. It is designed to put the nail in the coffin of the middle class. If you are wealthy enough, you will find a way to get your waiver. If you are poor enough, you won’t pay a dime into this. If you are in the middle class, you are going to be sucked dry until you are poor.
Within one election cycle, there will no longer be a middle class. Sorry people, the train has left the station and the on;y set of brakes we had was destroyed by the MSM when they picked Romney as our candidate.
Guess we are about to find out if bam made himself “perfectly clear” during his secret unconstitutional clandestine meeting with the “THE ROBED ONES” in ‘08
That's not quite true. While a specific decision not to include a severability clause is a relevant factor to consider, the court can still strike down a portion of a law if it can be done so in accordance with the blue pencil doctrine.
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