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This absurd ruling is now the ONLY election issue!!!
Self | June 28, 2012 | Stayfree

Posted on 06/28/2012 7:39:10 AM PDT by Stayfree

We now have to demand of any elected Representative and Senator that they will not get our vote unless they promise to repeal this monstrosity...or our freedom is lost forever.


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We must get rid of this beast
1 posted on 06/28/2012 7:39:11 AM PDT by Stayfree
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To: Stayfree

Dream on. This thing is the brainchild of the GOP candidate.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 7:43:38 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Stayfree

Now Romney will have to campaign against his own health care law.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 7:43:54 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Stayfree

Let’s hope the SCOTUS just handed the election to Romney

and that he fullfills his promise to repeal it


4 posted on 06/28/2012 7:44:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: Stayfree

i give up


5 posted on 06/28/2012 7:46:27 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: Stayfree

The sheeple and 50% on government welfare will say to those of us left paying for all of this to move on and return Obama for another four years now.

It’s over now.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 7:47:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Stayfree
My Beeber is completely stuned.

I think the court has awakened a sleeping giant in the electorate.

We may pick up 15 Senate seats because of this.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

7 posted on 06/28/2012 7:48:16 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Stayfree

Even if this law is repealed by Congress, our freedom died today. The Supreme Court just gave Congress unlimited power over our lives, so if a later Congress chooses to be nice to us and repeal the health care law, so what? The precedent has been set and our freedom is gone unless and until a future Supreme Court REVERSES this decision.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 7:49:18 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: Stayfree

Sorry to say, if you think this is ever going away, you’re tilting at windmills. There is no way this is ever being repealed.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:49 AM PDT by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Stayfree
No,it's one of two issues...10% real unemployment and OsamaObamaCare are the two issues.
10 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: KeyLargo

this country is over.. within 5 to 10 years we will hit the stage Europe is in now.

Sooner or later China will stop buying our bonds a huge budget crisis will occur, the Chinese money tree will stop producing bucks.... and we will end up just having to cut people off.. which will lead to whole scale rioting.

and those of us in big cities, will be standing in long lines at Dr’s offices and hospitals..along with illegal immigrants getting there free obamacare, since they can’t be questioned if they are legal residents.

prepare yourselves..


11 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:14 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Stat Man

The rubber-stamp fools of SCOTUS have given the tea party a huge rallying point.

If they’d overturned it, they’d have done the same for the commie sheeple slaves.


12 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:03 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Stayfree

Good thing the GOP chose the architect of Obamneycare as the nominee.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:06 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Chuzzlewit

and I agree.. anyone thinks this ever goes away is dreaming.. not gonna happen..

it’s free now..

watch the low-lifes rejoice in the street.. while we at work are watching them rejoice... while we pay for it.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Stat Man

There’s always hope of passing an amendment in the next session of Congress to completely prevent something of this ilk from just popping up in the future. Assuming that the Republicans take back the Senate and the Tea Party has another good year.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:42 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: Stayfree

Under no circumstances can this be resolved at the ballot box. Impossible for the following reason:

The last straw has just been placed on this citizen’s back.

This is no longer the country of limited government as designed and demanded by the founders.

Secession has to tried again.

We have half the country which wants to live off the other half. Half believes the moral high ground is killing the unborn. Half the country hates the military while claiming to support it. Half the country completely disagrees with the founders brilliance of limited government.

We cannot resolve these differences EVER at the voting booth. Only a divorce between the parasites and the body of producers is a viable solution.

As it stands we are living in the roach motel and the roaches are keeping us hostage


16 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:41 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Stayfree
Well this ruling will definitely galvanize the GOP vote in the fall. Remember that the next president will likely pick 2, if not 3 new SC justices over the next four years. The stakes will be high.
17 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:06 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Stat Man
The Supreme Court just gave Congress unlimited power over our lives

You are SO on-target with that observation. Unlimited power, and the ability to use unlimited duplicity. They can vote on taxes while all the while denying that they are taxes, only to have a court affirm them as being taxes later on.

18 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Stat Man

I’m not sure about that.

The SCOTUS ruled that it was a tax. They didn’t approve the mandate.

Since it is a tax, the Anti-Injuction Act prohibits the courst from providing an opinion on the Constitutionality of the tax until the tax is actually enacted.

IOW - they kicked the can down the road. The issue of a mandated purchase will have to be addressed in 2014, after someone actually has to pay the tax to opt out of insurance.


19 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:16 AM PDT by kidd
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To: LonePalm
We must get angry. We must be determined. We must vote in conservatives. We must fight back. Make sure your like-minded friends and neighbors are registered to vote.

We must hang this decision on the neck of Obama and never let him forget it. This is the LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY according to the ruling today. Our liberty was trampled on today. Our FREEDOM was taken from us today from a bunch of un-elected elistist men and women.

They work for us not the other way around!

20 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:46 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: BO Stinkss
My fellow American, don't give up without a fight! We must stand united against this tyranny and rally around the liberty tree!

First, together we must elect a President who will represent the American people and work within the confines of the U.S. Constitution.

Second, together we must insist on the elimination of government departments that are not constitutionally firm.

Third, amend the National Constitution to eliminate the 16th amendment (allowing the government to tax us) so this government can never abuse the taxing authority again!

If, any elected official who refuses to work within the confines and limited authority of the U.S. Constitution, they are to be voted out of office or recalled, either way, these criminal RINO’s and out right Fabien socialist need to go immediately, starting with the first biggest election of our lives in November!

“United we stand, divided we will certainly fall!”

21 posted on 06/28/2012 8:03:18 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: Stayfree
OMG, for the first time in my life I actually feel as though my country is LOST!

This ought to insure the biggest LANDSLIDE in history come November, however the way things are going, I just don't know any more....What a absolute tragedy!

22 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:33 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Stayfree
I agree with others who say that the ballot box cannot solve this problem. We now have two relatively recent decisions by the Court that makes all of us no better than serfs to the government. Kelo vs. New London basically said that we have no right to real property; that a government can take our land from us for any reason it wants to, as long as it makes any spurious claim of "for the public good". Today's decision now means that a government can mandate any behavior it wants, as long as the penalty for not complying is called a tax.

We're slaves. All we can hope for is a less abusive master. And even then, we know that that master will only be in power for a limited time before we get a new one.

23 posted on 06/28/2012 8:07:33 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Stayfree
OK, so where are the Hate Romney and Mormon Freeps now, who have advocated we just "all stay home" or write in someone else's name....presumably based on "Principles?"

Yeah, yeah, we ALL know Mittens is a Phony, RINO, Flip-Flopper who supported "Romney Care,"....

BUT, there is a "Chance" that if elected (due to pressure and his wanting to be reelected) that he might just come thru for us...

ON THE OTHER HAND....if the Fascist Dear Leader gets reelected....well, we already know what will happen.

All it takes for .....

capt.photo_1245188299465-1-0 obama-rip-constitution

.....EVIL....

..... to triumph is for good men to do nothing.......!"


24 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:04 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Stayfree

The T.E.A. “Party” has just been awakened (weren’t ever actually asleep :^) ) and 0BowMaocare continues to be a driving force for yet another election. If Americans do not turn out to the polls and remove every one of these Dim-o-RATs and Baraka Hussein in November, we are absolutely D.O.N.E.

It’s also time to solidly get behind Arpaio and others whom are attempting to turn the light on in the dark room in which Barry Soetero and his past has been hidden. I have never considered myself a “birther,” but there are too many inconsistencies in that cat’s background and stories. It is absolutely imperative that Baraka Hussein 0BowMao be declared to have NEVER been eligible to be p-Resident, and to thus invalidate EVERY Bill and Act he has signed!

Than again .. we just may be whistling past the graveyard. If so .. it was a nice run since 1776. Someone please turn out the lights in this increasingly cockroach infested place. If true Patriots don’t start taking up the cause .. and I am talking to every American whom talks big about “loving” their Country, but don’t back it up with action and the seeking of knowledge .. then we truly ARE D.O.N.E!


25 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:04 AM PDT by RocketMan1 (For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my Country!)
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To: Stayfree

Did the SC just rule that Congress need not vote on any tax increase in the future, the SC will fix it?


26 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:58 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: madprof98

Meet the new boss......


27 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:27 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Chuzzlewit

“prepare yourselves..”

My fellow American, we have been preparing for a civil revolution since 2008!

The freeloaders will not give up theirs without a serious fight and God willing, the good American people will give them a fight they won’t soon forget. the fighting won’t end until the American people take back their Constitutional government.

The adverse decision from SCOTUS is exactly what our forefathers feared in creating another government when they wrote the Constitution in the first place. Their fears have come true, unfortunately, the American people will have to again pick up arms to repel another oppressive tyrannical government.

Prepared, you bet your a$$!!!!


28 posted on 06/28/2012 8:10:10 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: Stayfree

The GOP-E candidate will say “Sorry can not repeal Obamacare(insert excuse here).”


29 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:28 AM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: kidd

I was kind of thinking the same thing. If the law says the mandate is part of the commerce powers of congress, but the supreme court said it can’t be part of that, doesn’t the law have to be revised?

And, the people who need insurance aren’t paying a lot of taxes, as is, so the tax falls on the middle class to prop up the rest of the nation. Wonder how well that will go over. Have to start focusing on the positives.


30 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:30 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: kidd

I think you’re right. Now, the question is this. Considering that (1) the mandate is tax, (2) the ‘law’ was written not as tax, (3) no severability clause on the law, and (4) the Congress hasn’t decided on tax, does it mean that 0bamaCare is not in effect yet until Congress decides, or it’s in effect even though it has different logic from the way it was written?


31 posted on 06/28/2012 8:13:40 AM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: paratrooper82
First, together we must elect a President who will represent the American people and work within the confines of the U.S. Constitution.

I agree. However, I don't believe I have been given someone with those qualities in this upcoming election. Do you believe you have that choice in 2012?

32 posted on 06/28/2012 8:15:07 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Stayfree

So, the federal government CAN mandate commerce, they simply need to represent it is a negative tax: Do this or else get taxed. So much for the US Constitution.

Since the federal government refuses to obey the constitution we should too! REVOLT!!!


33 posted on 06/28/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I abso-freakin-lutely agree! I am also “not comfortable” with Mittens and I think there is a better than average chance that he is lying and has no intent on repealing 0BowMaocare, or at the very least he will replace it with Mittenscare. But it is a chance that we ALL have to be willing to take because we ALL know that a second term of 0BowMao will be the final nail! Especially if for some god-awful quirk of fate the 2014 elections give him one or more houses (or if they retake the House or keep the Senate this year)!

I may be wary of RINO Mittens, but up until November 7, I pledge to be one of his biggest supporters! After that, he will have to earn my trust. *BUT* we ALL know what another four years of Hussein, the Muslim-from-Kenya will mean to this Country! We had a bad crop of (viable) candidates this year. Let’s at least try to go from a Communist in the White House to a Centrist, and let’s hope that we have one or two SOLID Conservatives (not wishy washy GWB/John Roberts/Juan McCain -types) in 2016.


34 posted on 06/28/2012 8:17:54 AM PDT by RocketMan1 (For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my Country!)
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To: 5thGenTexan
Unfortunately, Romney has said he would “repeal” obumbumcare, if he does not, he will only serve one (1) term!

The only other two (2) choices are reelect the Fabien socialist Obumbum, or go to war with the government.

We will prevail if we stand together my fellow American!

Each State needs to now opt out of Obumbumcare, leaving the feds to stand with their nuts hanging out!

You can lead a horse to water, but, you can't make him drink!

35 posted on 06/28/2012 8:21:58 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit; paudio

I think we’re stuck with a very large and very flawed law until one of the following happens (in order of time):

(1) Congress repeals it and POTUS approves the repeal (January 20, 2013)
(2) The Catholic church case tears parts of it away, a partial solution only (early 2013)
(3) The House grows a spine and excludes it from the budget (2013)
(4) Lawsuits begin to challenge the aspect of a mandated tax after a tax is actually paid (2014)


36 posted on 06/28/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by kidd
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To: KeyLargo; All
Who takes the biggest hit in this mandate tax?

The young liberal, head full of mush, dumb-asses that voted the Commie bastard into office!

The young and healthy are the ones that don't buy health insurance, they now will be forced to, at whatever rates the insurance companies need to cover everyone else.

They use very little but will pay for everyone else.

37 posted on 06/28/2012 8:28:26 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: kidd

Something has to happen, or it will be the collapse of the US middle class. We can’t afford this. More and more people will choose to not work, not pay income taxes as all, then avoid the income tax. If anything will kill it, hopefully it will be a fear of taxing the middle class even more.


38 posted on 06/28/2012 8:30:19 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: paratrooper82
Unfortunately, Romney has said he would “repeal” obumbumcare, if he does not, he will only serve one (1) term!

If he does not, he will claim he needs another 4 years. Or he will claim he needed more seats in Congress, or something else. But in reality, the GOP-e will be afraid to try since they are now fully pandering to the entitlement crowd just like the Democrats.

And the GOP-E will try to scare those of us who feel betrayed yet again into voting for him yet again rather than letting the evil, liberal Democrat win.

I am sick and tired of helping the GOP-e destroy this country at a slightly slower pace than the Democrats.

39 posted on 06/28/2012 8:31:06 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Stayfree

This just in: Chief Justice Roberts and his family will be vacationing at their newly purchased villa on the French Riviera and enjoying their newly purchased yacht.


40 posted on 06/28/2012 8:32:38 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Stayfree

Maranatha,,,,,,NOW!


41 posted on 06/28/2012 8:45:51 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Beagle8U

“Who takes the biggest hit in this mandate tax?

The young liberal, head full of mush, dumb-asses that voted the Commie bastard into office!”

We raised our children to think right and they did not vote “The One” into office, but they will now suffer for their generation doing so.

As for me, I’m in the generation that is on the way out anyway since I grew up in the 50s which make me a candidate for the Obama death panel, so I won’t live to see the total downfall of our Country.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 8:52:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Stayfree

Too bad the guy we nominated has no credibility on the issue.


43 posted on 06/28/2012 9:01:29 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Stayfree; All
According to FoxNews Radio, the House has schedule a repeal vote for July 11.

The repeal passed in 2011, it'll pass in 2012 and die in Harry Reid's Senate.

44 posted on 06/28/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: RocketMan1

“It’s also time to solidly get behind Arpaio and others whom are attempting to turn the light on in the dark room in which Barry Soetero and his past has been hidden. I have never considered myself a “birther,” but there are too many inconsistencies in that cat’s background and stories. It is absolutely imperative that Baraka Hussein 0BowMao be declared to have NEVER been eligible to be p-Resident, and to thus invalidate EVERY Bill and Act he has signed!”

And how can that be accomplished? What mechanism is available in the Constitution to do that?

No matter how much you dislike BHO and today’s ruling by the USSC, He was sworn in, and his term in office is limited to:

1. Expiration of his current term in January 2013.
2. Impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate.
3. Resignation

Regarding Bills signed by him during his tenure, it stands until repealed by the Congress.

There is no magic resent button.


45 posted on 06/28/2012 11:06:07 AM PDT by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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To: kidd

“Since it is a tax, the Anti-Injuction Act prohibits the courst from providing an opinion on the Constitutionality of the tax until the tax is actually enacted.

IOW - they kicked the can down the road. The issue of a mandated purchase will have to be addressed in 2014, after someone actually has to pay the tax to opt out of insurance.”

That’s an interesting take on this. I hope you’re right. I got the impression that they were disregarding the Anti-Injunction Act and already deciding it IS a Constitutional tax. But I haven’t read the decision, so I’m relying on others’ interpretations. Have you read it?


46 posted on 06/28/2012 11:33:57 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: Stat Man; ModelBreaker

ModelBreaker has read it and has better legal credentials than I.

see his assessment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2900493/posts?page=141#141

It seems Roberts has taken an activist approach by noting that this tax is not a tax when considering the AIA. But it is still a tax.

Seems highly challengable.


47 posted on 06/28/2012 12:44:51 PM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

Thanks for the link. I’ll be reading it after I post this to you.

“It seems Roberts has taken an activist approach by noting that this tax is not a tax when considering the AIA. But it is still a tax.”

That’s what I was afraid of.

“Seems highly challengable.”

Perhaps. But not much point in challenging it with the current composition of the Court.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 1:09:24 PM PDT by Stat Man
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To: Stat Man; ModelBreaker
There is an article here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900590/posts

that states:
Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional.

It seems that the mandate is challengable.

49 posted on 06/28/2012 1:55:44 PM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

“Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional.”

Kidd, I’ve read the decision. Roberts expressly ruled that the mandate was unconstitutional under the commerce clause. That doesn’t matter. Because he ruled it was constitutional under the taxing power. It only takes one enumerated power for an act to be constitutional.

As to congress compelling people to purchase things, under Roberts ruling, a $20,000 tax on citizens who do NOT purchase Chevy Volts is almost certainly constitutional under the taxing authority.


50 posted on 06/28/2012 2:06:08 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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