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Conservatives turn on Roberts
Salon ^ | 6-28-12 | Alex Seitz-Wald

Posted on 06/28/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by Mozilla

Conservative Chief John Roberts single-handedly saved Obamacare today, siding with the liberal bloc of the Supreme Court to uphold the law, even though more moderate Justice Anthony Kennedy led the dissent.

The steps of the Supreme Court this morning were packed with conservatives deeply disappointed by the ruling and hurt by the apparent betrayal of one of their own. ”I think a lot of Chief Justice Roberts. I think his whole history of jurisprudence is deserving of respect from this country — up to, and not necessarily including, this opinion today,” Rep. Steve King, a Republican from Iowa, told Salon. “If I issued an opinion, I think Chief Justice Roberts would want to read my full opinion before he criticized me, and I want to read his opinion, but really, I have a sick feeling in my stomach about what happened here today.”

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Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Tea Party Republican from Texas, told Salon of Roberts, “I’m sorry he’s become so cynical.” ”He expects the president of the United States to lie to him, and to lie to America when [Obama] said — and he had it said on his behalf repeatedly — this was not a tax. For Justice Roberts to say, of course it’s a tax, he makes very clearly that he believes the president is a liar and it’s a sad day for America,” Gohmert explained.

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“It’s a terrible day for the American people,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann, the Minnesota Republican who ran for president. “This was an activist court that rewrote the law to make it even more ineffectual, and even more expensive. So this is a sad day.”

“Chief Justice Roberts was the worst part of the Bush legacy,” Ben Shaprio, a conservative columnist and editor at Breitbart.com, said on Twitter.

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John Roberts is a traitor and a Benedict Arnold.
1 posted on 06/28/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Robert’s vote will be a huge plus in November elections. Now, we all small government types are more energized to vote. It is not his job to decide if a law is good or bad. That is upto voters-—>congress-—>president.

That is what elections are for.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 10:26:39 AM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Mitt ain’t the one to replace him, though. We’d get a mushier mush.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 10:27:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: Mozilla

The problem is that Arnold actually help save us a few times before he sold out.

This guy? A rancid POS.


5 posted on 06/28/2012 10:29:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: entropy12

Elections most assuredly including primaries and all the stuff that leads INTO primaries like publicity. The people who did not vote in GOP primaries this year but could have, would have sufficed in principle to get Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich or whatever not-Mitt into the nomination.

Obama, in the meantime, just gained a quantum leap in stink. What has he to say about this — who cares? Obamacare was his totally 100% partisan baby and he can’t burn THAT birth certificate.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 10:30:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: entropy12

Yesssssssssssss....and now we need to get to work.....HARD work to defeat Obama and the leftists.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: entropy12

This ruling has energized the country. Roberts knows the individual mandate is unconstitutional. It is not mere bad law, it is unconstitutional!


8 posted on 06/28/2012 10:31:41 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Wish it were Bachmann, personally.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 10:32:49 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: Mozilla
He is just afraid of Senator Leahy from Vermont. The Senator, in a drunken stupor on the Senate floor challenged Roberts to do the correct thing on OBAMACARE.
10 posted on 06/28/2012 10:33:23 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: Mozilla
Conservatives turn on Roberts

Why wouldn't they? It turns out Justice Kennedy better understands the Constitution.

Another point of comparison between Reagan and a Bush, BTW.

11 posted on 06/28/2012 10:33:55 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: HiTech RedNeck

But Mitt will need conservatives to get re-elected Obama will not care. It will take years to stop this countries decline. We cannot afford Obama socialism any more!


12 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:31 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: Mozilla

Those liberal pols and pundits who, fearing that the law would be overturned, said that Roberts’ (and the Court’s) reputation would suffer for it were indeed correct.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:39 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: Mozilla

Four others voted for it as well. he’s not the only one


14 posted on 06/28/2012 10:36:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: entropy12
Robert’s vote will be a huge plus in November elections. Now, we all small government types are more energized to vote

Yeah, then we get a big-government liberal Republican like Mitt Romney into the White House, all while pretending we're winning something.

Talk about being optimistic when there is one drop of water left in the cup.

15 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:36 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Mozilla

Just remember:

John Roberts AGREES with Elena Kagan on this!!!!


16 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mozilla

He had no business re-baptizing the ObamaCare argument based on the commerce clause, changing it into a new tax law. The Supreme Court is not authorized to make new legislation. No wonder Scalia was livid at this betrayal by another Big Government lackey, Roberts.


17 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:45 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Mozilla
Obamacare
BROUGHT TO YOU BY CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS

AND THE COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT THE
"INDIVIDUAL MANDATE THAT ISN'T AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"
PLUS: THE EXECUTIVE, THE LEGISLATIVE, AND THE JUDICIAL BRANCHES
OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Hear this citizens

Be ye still knaves, know your place, or else!


CREDIT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY/MARXISTS UNITED AND
THE COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT THE PRESIDENT


18 posted on 06/28/2012 10:40:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: Mozilla
I told you to watchout for George Bush Supreme appointments..
I've been waiting for this.. or something like this..

Robets was put in just for a time such as this..
If you think Roberts is a traitor what does this make G. Bush?..
The next traitor may be Alito..

Bush also made Obama possible.. followed by Juan Maclaim and Myth Romney..
America is writhing in political epilepsy..

OR worse the "Animal Farm" is complete..
Because America is being farmed culled and milked like farm animals..

19 posted on 06/28/2012 10:41:40 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Mozilla

I believe that Roberts is being BLACKMAILED because of his two ADOPTED kids are from Ireland VIA LATIN AMERICA......ILLEGAL????? hmmmmmmm


20 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: entropy12
Let's hope it is a Pyrrhic victory for the bad guys.

Clinton sent Elian to Castro. That may have made the difference in Bush beating Gore in Florida. Of course Bush gave us Roberts, but think of how bad anyone Gore would have put on the Court would have been.

It's too soon to despair of the Republic--Obama could be defeated in November--but I think Patrick Henry was on to something when he opposed the Constitution because it gave too much power to the federal government.

The Anti-Federalists: the forgotten heroes of American history.

21 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:41 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mozilla

“Conservatives turn on Roberts”

Roberts turns on Conservatives. Fixed.


22 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:47 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Mozilla

I can’t help but think that Obama wanted this to be overturned by the SCOTUS. Then he’d have something to campaign against. Now he less than nothing. The regime has a rabbit in thier hat that they plan on using this November. They are NOT going to just let the WH get away from them.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:52 AM PDT by albie
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To: entropy12

“It is not his job to decide if a law is good or bad. That is upto voters-—>congress-—>president.

That is what elections are for.”

It wasn’t for him to decide “good” or “bad,” no. But unconstitutional or constitutional, yes. That’s what judicial review is for.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 10:42:52 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mozilla
I respectfully Disagree.

He is Roger Taney. Who Ruled Dred Scott was a Non-Person and precipitated the Civil War.

John Roberts ruled you are a Tax Serf to the Federal Government. Paying for the privilege to pay taxes to the Federal Government.

25 posted on 06/28/2012 10:43:06 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Repeal or Revolt-The only choices now.)
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To: driftdiver

True, but did you expect Roberts to vote with Ginsberg and Kagan?

Wow... sorry, there’s simply no defense of this.


26 posted on 06/28/2012 10:43:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: hosepipe
The people get the government they deserve.

Unfortunately.

27 posted on 06/28/2012 10:44:53 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: driftdiver
Four others voted for it as well. he’s not the only one ...

Really? What kind of nonsensical logic is that ... you are aware that it was Bush II that got his his (for life) Supreme Court gig? The other justices are all screaming liberals appointed by democ'rat presidents.

28 posted on 06/28/2012 10:45:00 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: entropy12
It is not his job to decide if a law is good or bad.

But it is his job to decide if a law is constitutional. Do you *really* believe the authors of the Constitution would approve of this decision? A decision that gives total, unchecked, unlimited power to the Federal Government to tax...anything!

29 posted on 06/28/2012 10:45:13 AM PDT by kevao
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To: hosepipe

Yeah, so much for all the Bush-bots who insisted that his SCOTUS appointments meant we had to vote for the lesser of evils (and forego any chance for third party or whatever).

Re: culling —
We’re also being sprayed like insects on almost a daily basis, all the NATO countries are. Insecticide in the form of aluminium, lead, and other poisons, to weaken and sicken us, make us to sick to resist, then give us the death pill before we can collect SS.
Yes, all the name of fake global warming.


30 posted on 06/28/2012 10:46:58 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You are right about lazy conservative voters who did not turn out in higher numbers for Cain/Newt. I did my share.

I am hoping we all turn out with enthusiasm to turn out Obama out of office in November 2012. Otherwise this country is gone to a 3rd world status by 2016.


31 posted on 06/28/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: entropy12

“It is not his job to decide if a law is good or bad. That is upto voters-—>congress-—>president.

That is what elections are for.”

Oh, by the way, remeber back when the Scott Brown election was supposed to decide something? What was it again...oh yeah, nothing. Because Congress zigged and zagged around its own rules and managed to pass Obamacare without anyone knowing how. Then there was the Republican majority that gave us Medicare, Part D and the Ted Kennedy education bill. Elections matter less than you think.


32 posted on 06/28/2012 10:48:20 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mozilla
In dwelling on this for the past couple hours I'm wondering if Kennedy's vote was so uncertain that Roberts decided to vote with the libs so he could write the opinion instead of ending up as a dissenter and allowing the libs to fashion the opinion. In so doing he was able to make it perfectly clear that Obamacare was a tax, thus galvanizing the voting public and guaranteeing a GOP landslide in November and setting the legislation up for immediate repeal. Yes, I think he's that smart.
33 posted on 06/28/2012 10:49:27 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Mozilla
Roberts is a POS. Obama LIED about Obamacare NOT being a tax, then Roberts says okay as a TAX? WTF? Was this judicial activism or what? Rot in hell, Roberts.

Shocking that Kennedy's dissent was spot on, but has Satan taken control of America.. After all, he IS good at deception and boy were WE deceived.. And on amnesty.. And on 'Fast & Furious'.. My God, where are you? Have you turned on us? I fear so!

34 posted on 06/28/2012 10:49:55 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: wmileo

Chief Justice Roberts is a weak man with no moral soul.


35 posted on 06/28/2012 10:52:18 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: driftdiver

But if he hadn’t joined with them, it wouldn’t have passed. That’s what makes his act treacherous.


36 posted on 06/28/2012 10:53:00 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: albie
Well...Bamster can now say that the SCOTUS agrees with ObummerCare.

But, Mitt can say that he'll do what the MAJORITY OF AMERICAN'S want....to repeal the d@#m thing!!!

That, IMO, carries A LOT more weight!

37 posted on 06/28/2012 10:53:40 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: kevao

I tend to agree with you that federal mandate is unconstitutional. However I am looking at the bigger picture...now we have much bigger reason and incentive and energy to vote against Obama and liberals in congress.

Obamacare should be removed the right way...at the ballot box.


38 posted on 06/28/2012 10:53:46 AM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: entropy12

Kicking Obama out will, unless some miracle intervenes in the GOP nomination, mean hold-nose-and-check-Mitt. Poor pickings, but Mitt has promised to nullify Obamacare with an EO. This would have to be a different, less liberal Mitt than the Mitt of Massachusetts. But it looks like a bid for survival requires no less of a risk.


39 posted on 06/28/2012 10:53:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: KC_Lion

40 posted on 06/28/2012 10:55:28 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: DoughtyOne

If it had been overturned would Obama then have a rallying point for his re-election? Well that issue has now been taken away from him. The Dems & their MSM whores were prepared to wage a holy war on the SC and every breathing Republican if this would have been struck down by a “conservative” SC.

Now, Republicans, conservatives are aflame as we should be. Even 68% of the Yahoo home page Libs think it was the wrong decision.

Will this ultimately change the turnout against Obama in November? Will this ultimately lead to a Romney presidency, a Republican Senate & House?

Did Roberts just fall on the sword?

Just some thoughts I am having.


41 posted on 06/28/2012 10:55:34 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: Rockitz

God is wise, and maybe enough prayer has gone to Him that He is willing to open one more door to an America mired in lassitude to get itself free again.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 10:56:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: entropy12
Nice spin. Trouble is, Roberts twisted words to achieve a facade of reasonableness. The bill calls for financial penalties on behavior deemed "antisocial" by the gubmint. The fedgov has income taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, death taxes, but no taxes on behavior. When is the last time you paid a "tax" after getting a traffic ticket instead of a "fine?"

Roberts' opinion is based on a lie. He has sold out, for whatever reason. Calling a financial penalty a tax does not make it one.

43 posted on 06/28/2012 10:56:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: skeeter

“Another point of comparison between Reagan and a Bush, BTW.”

So Kennedy comes out on top of Roberts, and Reagan’s Scalia stands on the right side of the decision with Bush’s Alito. But let’s not forget how underwhelming has Kennedy been in general. Then there’s Sandra Day O’Connor, a real bust. I used to love Bork but have increasingly come to believe he wouldn’t have been all we’ve projected onto him.

At best its a push. We Republicans really must find out how the Dems manage.


44 posted on 06/28/2012 10:58:13 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mozilla; pookie18
ROBERTS COURT, THE ROBERTS COURT
45 posted on 06/28/2012 10:58:23 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: Rockitz

“Yes, I think he’s that smart”

That’s not smart; that’s evil.


46 posted on 06/28/2012 11:00:17 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mozilla
I'm sure the libs are loving that conservatives are turning on the Supremes, especially Justice Roberts. But is anyone giving any thought to what he actually SAID? He's rejected the idea of the Mandate, and has deemed it a TAX. With this ruling, Congress, and the President, has to support the ruling as a tax increase, because they can't call it a mandate, anymore, because that WOULD be unconstitutional.

If the Supremes had ruled against Obama, he'd be able to gloss over his disastrous economic policies and run against the 'out of touch' court. As is stands now, he has to defend the largest tax increase in American history, and what the results of that will be for business in this country.

This is a clear cut election issue, and if we spend our time bitching and moaning about the Supremes, and arguing with each other about the ruling, we'll waste valuable time which could otherwise be used to defeat Obama soundly, AND replace members of Congress who voted for Obamacare with people who will commit to REPEAL Obamacare, in its entirety, and de-fund all the bureaucracies that have grown up around Obamacare. AND these new members must commit NOT to replace Obamacare with their own version of government run health care.

47 posted on 06/28/2012 11:01:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BluH2o

Nonsensical to point out there are 9 judges on the supreme court?

Including 5 judges who sold out America.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 11:01:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: hosepipe

JRoberts supporter at time of nomination:

“Former Senator Fred Dalton Thompson helped to promote Roberts’ nomination.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roberts_Supreme_Court_nomination_and_hearings


49 posted on 06/28/2012 11:01:57 AM PDT by apostoli (Obama stash now includes FREE healthcare!)
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To: Tublecane

I have more respect for Benedict Arnold than Roberts.


50 posted on 06/28/2012 11:02:21 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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