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If you are rather dull, like I am when trying to understand the bill, and the decision...read this. It is clear and simple and frankly should be read by every American. We need to understand the consequences. ANd you will after you read this...
1 posted on 06/28/2012 12:28:41 PM PDT by abigail2
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This is what we get with the now-revealed Fascist “Chief Justice”

Another colossal W Bush F-up.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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It’s funny in a sad way: In six days, we celebrate our standing up to a giant, central government and declared enough-was-enough. We even spilled countless amounts of blood to achieve this freedom. Today, the Supreme Court allowed Congress to have unlimited powers in forcing us to buy whatever it is they are lobbied for us to buy with no check or balance except the ballot box in November.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier ("Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson.)
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Myth RomneyCARE to felon DiMasi:
"I bet you $10,000 that I can create RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
And the stupid GOP will LOVE me for it
as I pretend it did not even happen
and YOU ... serve time."

4 posted on 06/28/2012 12:31:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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Next, all remittances will be sent through the feral government.

They will forward on to you the portion they feel you deserve.

5 posted on 06/28/2012 12:32:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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Whatever you call it, a fine or a tax (which by nature both are punitive, and both are used to compel you to do or not do something), are forced coercion under threat of government penalty/punishment.

In effect they are using their power to compel you to buy or not buy something. If you don’t they punish you. How is that not forcing you to buy something. Otherwise something bad will happen to you by the government. If that isn’t de facto forcing you to do something (else bad stuff will occur to you - fines, jail time) I don’t know what is.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 12:33:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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The most likely next application will be requiring the purchase of “green energy” products. For example, every homeowner must install solar hot water heaters. If they do not, they have to pay a new energy tax.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 12:33:32 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Rush’s take: Roberts has been turned by the Elite argument that his legacy as chief justice would be ruined if he did not vote with the Liberals. How horrifying. How disappointing. His ego trumped his ideaology. It’s now the Little Johnny Roberts Court.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 12:38:03 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: 2harddrive; Admin Moderator; AmericaCitizen; armymarinemom; awake-n-angry; bk1937; Boletus; ...

This article really summed it up for me. I have trouble understanding it all and how to discuss it with the enemy (LOL) if you understand...Hope you like this as well as I did. I emailed it to my email list too... :)


9 posted on 06/28/2012 12:38:26 PM PDT by abigail2
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I’m sure a few state’s attorney’s general’s will now find the stones to make “Justice” Roberts get out his pen and provide the Court’s Constitutional definition of just exactly what a tax is....and perhaps he can also find enough gray matter to explain to us why this “special tax” is NOT a “head tax” or a “poll tax”

“A poll tax (head tax or capitation tax, per U.S. English usage) is a tax of a portioned, fixed amount applied to an individual in accordance with the census (as opposed to a percentage of income). When a corvée is commuted for cash payment, in effect it becomes a poll tax (and vice versa, if a poll tax obligation can be worked off). Head taxes were important sources of revenue for many governments from ancient times until the 19th century. There have been several famous (and infamous) cases of head taxes in history, notably a tax formerly required for voting in parts of the United States that was often designed to disenfranchise poor people, including African Americans, Native Americans, and white people of non-English descent (e.g., the Irish). In the United Kingdom, poll taxes were levied by the governments of John of Gaunt in the 14th C., Charles II in the 17th and Margaret Thatcher in the 20th century.

The word poll is an English word that once meant “head” - and still does, in some specialised contexts - hence the name poll tax for a per-person tax”


11 posted on 06/28/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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pay for something that 60-70% doesn’t want... by taking the money, under threat of violence, from those same people

good luck with that

JUST SAY NO!
- NReagan


12 posted on 06/28/2012 12:41:09 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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The only ones to win are the party's in power. If people think that this is going to be repealed, your nuts. Even with a majority the E-pubs are not going to let this go. You have to understand, he who is in power rules the people. Gov knows those little details about you now that are in data bases etc. They know us real well.

The demorat congressman said after the passing that, "we finally have control over the people". This is the truth. The Gov, no matter who is in charge, have complete control over its people. So tell me, the only thing the sides are going to fight for now is who controls the people.

13 posted on 06/28/2012 12:41:42 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter.)
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There is no limit to the reach of the Supreme Court's wild misinterpretation of the Commerce Clause, it seems.

Apparently Adams did not read what Roberts wrote:

Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do. Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do. The Framers knew the difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce, not to compel it. Ignoring that distinction would undermine the principle that the Federal Government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congress’s power to “regulate Commerce.”

14 posted on 06/28/2012 12:42:09 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought into Solyndra)
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Thus, the government can force Americans to buy anything it wants by simply characterizing the forced payment as a "tax."

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18 posted on 06/28/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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It's worse than that. It says that the power to tax means that they can tax you for anything, even if they can't constitutionally do the thing they are taxing you for. So, the principle applies to all kinds of situations. They can tax you if you own guns. They can tax you if you peaceably assemble. They can tax you if you have opinions they don't like. They can tax you if you have a second child.

You see, they can't stop you from having a second child. But if you do, they can tax you $1 million. After all, it costs society to raise your child.

They can tax you for being Catholic.

They can tax you for posting on Free Republic.

The implications of this decision are mind-boggling.

21 posted on 06/28/2012 12:48:07 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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SLAVERY!!!
22 posted on 06/28/2012 12:48:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individual Liberty, R.I.P, 6/28/2012)
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ObamaCare is the first of many Intolerable Acts under the Soetoro Regime that will likely lead to R2/CW2.
26 posted on 06/28/2012 12:50:09 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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How long before you can’t buy medicine from Canada? That’s gonna’ be a big hit to a lot of us.


27 posted on 06/28/2012 12:50:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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Just as bad, a part of the majority stated/established that the Constitution allows the federal government the power to tax without limit! Combined with giving .gov the power to COMPEL us to buy something from another individual, this is THE END folks.

If there was any doubt before, it should be clear now. We no longer live in a free country. Thank you ‘Benedict Roberts’.

(it makes me damn near physically ill knowing that KENNEDY was willing to toss out the whole damn thing, and it was ROBERTS that fell in line with the liberals!!!!!!!)


31 posted on 06/28/2012 12:52:24 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Good afternoon.

Simple as I can say it...

I WILL NOT COMPLY.

5.56mm

39 posted on 06/28/2012 12:58:19 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Look for civil disobedence to make a comeback.


40 posted on 06/28/2012 12:58:46 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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