Posted on 06/28/2012 2:16:48 PM PDT by Hojczyk
Today, Barack Obama won the battle but will lose the war. The Supreme Court decision makes Obamacare the central issue in the 2012 election, just like it was in the 2010 election. And we know how that turned out.
The Court has sustained the individual mandate. That imposes on us a mandate: To defeat Obama and take the Senate. Now that is the only way we can kill this horrible law.
Public opinion has rejected this law for two years now by about the same margin: 40% support; 55% oppose. While the Court decision may give the law a short term positive bump, the underlying reality of the costs of the program and the increases in everyone’s health insurance rates it is already triggering will eliminate any near term gain. Ultimately, it will still be 40-55 against the law.
Right now, presidential polls show Romney and Obama both in the mid-40s. The single most unpopular thing Obama has done is the health care law. Now it is going to be the lynchpin issue. It means that the election itself will increasingly be polarized around opinions of the health care law – a fifteen point loser for the Democrats.
In a real sense, the Supreme Court did not let Obama off the hook by striking down the law. Now he will have to defend it during the election.
Remember what this law does. It requires everyone to spend upwards of 7 percent of their income on health insurance or pay a fine of several thousand dollars. Neither is an attractive alternative for the young and the poor who are the president’s political base. And, with the expansion of Medicaid rejected by the Court, the government will not be there to help them. I
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Assuming we could get 2/3 of the Senate, the House, and the WH the following should be passed:
1. Kill socialized medicine.
2. Require every adult to purchase and maintain in their residence an assault rifle, a class III license for it, 10,000 rounds of ammunition, a gun safe, and a life membership at a shooting range within 25 miles of their home. Failure to take part in said action will result in a $5,000 tax.
We will then see how the court rules on #2.
Repeal the 17th amendment and pass a new amendment strictly restricting federal control over commerce to a restriction on the states to create tariffs.
Me too, but it doesn’t make sense.
But since i’ve been drunk since 10:30 this morning maybe I’m missing something. Oh that’s PDST.
In the work force, it's a constant trade-off between labor and automation. If the total cost of having a human do a job is less than buying a machine to do the job, then I'll hire the human. Otherwise I'll hire the machine. And there WILL be a machine available to do the job if humans get expensive enough, or the job just won't get done.
"The Divine One" has been handed a great political victory; a victory of such magnitude so as to get him reelected.
"The Divine One" has been handed a great political victory; a victory of such magnitude so as to get him reelected.
Well the IRS will be coming after us when we do not pay the premium. That does not automatically mean you are screwed and going to prison if you cannot pay. There will be ways to get these penalties removed. We will have to work on it though.
Obviously one of the ways will be to sweep the elections and get the US Senate and House to repel this monstrosity. Actually repelling this might save the country. Right now fiscally the US is done for.
I hope Cantor gets his vote to repeal done. It’ll smoke out the rats and put them on record as supporting the world’s largest tax increase ever. They need to explain why the poorest among us will be hit the hardest.
Actually, if this act was struck down, the stock markets would have rallied and banks may have loosened their lending restrictions. The economy would have improved just before the election. This now means the economy will not improve and can only get worse. People vote their pocket books. Just look at the one poster who wonders if he will go to jail if he has no job and cannot pay the fine.
What I’m saying is the law says buy insurance or be fined. Some disabled guy who’s sitting at home ‘cause he can’t work but can’t get disability is going to pay a fine? The law does not address the millions of people who are out of work at any given time.
Correct. I gathered that from your initial post. This is not a case of giving people freebies and worrying about the fiscal consequences later. This is a case of forcing them to pay for the goodies they may not want and fining and jailing them if they do not pay. So your concerns are valid. But just because the IRS is after you for money you do not have, is not an automatic death sentence. Bad yes, but they can be beat. It will be hard work, but keeping people out of debtors prison will be a righteous challenge.
Here’s a scenario you can explain for me. There’s a local pizza joint down the street. It’s him, his wife and two kids. His insurance premiums are sky high. Under this law he can insure his entire family for $700 a year each by paying the fine.
But that’s begs another question. If a father doesn’t buy insurance is he fined for each of his children?
“Assuming we could get 2/3 of the Senate”
Since the SC has called this a tax, it is now a budget line item. Budget items can be decided with a simple majority. All we need is 50 senators, with the VP being the tie breaker.
Wrong.
Obama may have lost the battle, but won the war.
Obamacare can be reversed by law.
The Supreme Court decision to tax behavior and force purchases of products will stand REQUIRING A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
Overturning the law is temporary, the precedent will stand forever until new amendment.
Wrong.
Obama may have lost the battle, but won the war.
Obamacare can be reversed by law.
The Supreme Court decision to tax behavior and force purchases of products will stand REQUIRING A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
Overturning the law is temporary, the precedent will stand forever until new amendment.
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Right now there are no legally binding exemptions until Congress specifically addresses them by tax code law.So yes, as it stands right now, many poor and unemployed people will be sent to debtors prison by the IRS.
Alinsky RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
“Some disabled guy who’s sitting at home ‘cause he can’t work but can’t get disability is going to pay a fine?”
Terry, that’s what death panels are for. If this fellow doesn’t have cash, he gets eliminated. If you can’t man an oar on the Buckwheat slave ship, you get thrown overboard as shark food. The only remedy a fellow such as this has in Buckwheat’s fascist paradise is to show up at the death panel hearing and open fire.
It’s all about the rule of men and who has the best weapon and the fastest draw. Practice your combat shooting at the range. Read Jan Karski’s book “The Story of the Secret State.” We are a whisker away from CW II.
See you at the Old North Bridge, FRiend.
I’ll see you there.
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