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Roberts' Ruling Took Guts
Townhall.com ^ | June 29, 2012 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/29/2012 5:34:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: HerrBlucher

I don’t get it but I’m a simple man. I don’t get how this has saved the image of the court. It has made me scornful of it to wonder why we even have it.

The very idea that you can throw a decision preserve the image of the court is anathema to the integrity of the court.

We are morally, ethically and spiritually bankrupt. The ideas that right is right no matter how many are against you and wrong is wrong no matter how many are for it... is mostly dead.

I hope and pray that Roberts is haunted by some malevolent spirit for the rest of his miserable life and that it drives him to madness.


21 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:25 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Kaslin

The idea that Roberts poisoned the well of the commerce clause by voting to uphold Obamacare is total BS. The 4 desenters said the same thing and had he of voted with them the result with regard to the commerce clause would have been the same. Instead he has opened a whole new can of worms regarding the government using taxation to force us to do something.


22 posted on 06/29/2012 6:05:46 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: GoldenPup

Read the article. He’s hardly happy with Robert’s decision. The “guts” is referring to actual intestines, livers, etc.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 6:07:44 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Kaslin

Goldberg writes an excellent article. Some deluded “conservatives” are trying to second-guess Roberts thinking he did this to preserve the integrity of the court. He was trying to prevent critics of the court of making the claim that the court was biased. So he was going to fair to the libs. What gibberish. The court is not there to take into consequence feelings or appearances of bias....it’s there to rule on law...period. Roberts screwed up.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 6:08:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Sequoyah101

It clearly doesn’t save the image of the court to people like you and me, it does just the opposite. Roberts was likely thinking of the general public and how they would have been bombarded with “the scotus is political and illegitimate” by the msm and the usurper had he rejected the whole bill.


25 posted on 06/29/2012 6:08:59 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Baseballguy

We can, we MUST, amend the constitution to limit the size and scope of the government.

Apparently, our justices can’t read old English.


26 posted on 06/29/2012 6:10:03 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Sequoyah101

“not up to the court to protect the electorate from politicians they elect.”

This is so absurd. Why do we even need a Supreme Court that is suppose to uphold the Constitution.

So if congress passed a law (without a constitutional amendment) saying ONLY foreigners could be president the Supreme Court would rule “tough luck what the Constitution says...you voted for these representative who voted for this.”

There whole role is to be part of the “checks and balance” system. To stop unconstitutional laws. Robert’s just negated their whole purpose for being.


27 posted on 06/29/2012 6:11:25 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: BornToBeAmerican

“Roberts, made it perfectly clear. WE THE PEOPLE still RULE!!

The “Affordable Care Act” is going to die a slow painful death by a 1,000 cuts.”

I think so too.

I know we’re unhappy, to say the least, but I also think obama and the dems will be chasing their tails with this ruling.


28 posted on 06/29/2012 6:14:49 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: SueRae

Follow the advice of post #23.


29 posted on 06/29/2012 6:15:22 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: LS
If I understand the structure right, without the Medicare taxes on the states, and without taxes passed by the House, this thing is dead as Ronnie James Dio.

I don't think that's correct, LS.

The dark heart of ObamaCare is that it requires (essentially) that all health insurance in the United States must eventually conform to what the federal government decides it should cover.

In other words, for the vast majority of people, the federal government will make the decision as to whether or not a particular treatment will be allowed to be paid.

If someone comes up with a breakthrough treatment for a particular condition, it is not enough to convince doctors or even insurance companies of it. One will have to go on bended knee to a stupid federal bureaucrat, and convince him or her to allow it to be paid as an accepted treatment.

Naturally these will be political decisions, especially whenever the Left is in charge of the bureaucracy. And of course "pay to play" will be the order of the day as companies that provide medical devices or other treatments will need to curry favor with the politicians in order to ensure that the government will allow insurance policies to pay for that particular treatment.

And because a Soviet-style government bureaucracy is about the least efficient approach possible to allocating health resources, there will be massive waste and fraud and uncontrollable costs will lead to rationing of treatments and attempts at federal control of all lifestyle decisions in the name of managing healthcare costs.

My understanding is that all of that goes ahead even if states decline to accept the additional Medicaid funding to cover people up to 130% of the poverty line.

30 posted on 06/29/2012 6:15:40 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: HerrBlucher

And this is why the bastards enjoy the luxury of life time appointments... so that they are above criticism and can always do the right thing with blind justice. Thus the designation Supreme Court. They answer only to the law and the Constitution. At least they are supposed to. It sure looks like Roberts answers to something else.

“Roberts was likely thinking of the general public and how they would have been bombarded with “the scotus is political and illegitimate” by the msm and the usurper had he rejected the whole bill.”


31 posted on 06/29/2012 6:16:12 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Excellent article indeed. Here we have Roberts creating his own penumbras and emanations... But I still don’t know why.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 6:17:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: Kaslin
"..Now, I don't know what's in Roberts' heart, but no court watcher I've heard from puts much weight on the idea that Roberts did anything other than reason backward from the result he wanted in order to buy respect from the court's critics at the expense of his own beliefs.."

If he did it once he will do it again. I am afraid we have Earl Warren II.

33 posted on 06/29/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Smokeyblue

At this point I wonder why we need either congress or the sc. One does nothing and the other is a puppet to the white hut.

Your logic is correct... the very idea that the court has no obligation to protect the electorate is absurd. Just what is the court supposed to do? What does he think their job is actually. Do they just float on ethereal clouds and contemplate their navels?

Roberts is a traitor.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 6:19:25 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Kaslin

“...finding a way to save the reputation of the court...”

...from the libel and slander of the left had the ruling gone against Obamacare. (Progressive, pretentious, adolescent scu*bags.)

IMHO


35 posted on 06/29/2012 6:24:52 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Kaslin
Roberts' Ruling Took Guts

Baloney. If he had real guts, he would have stood up to Obama and done the right thing. Instead, he cowtowed to pressure from the White House to uphold the law.

36 posted on 06/29/2012 6:33:38 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Kaslin

Are we allowed to post the entire piece, or should this be just an excerpt?


37 posted on 06/29/2012 6:34:36 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: LS
The severe limitation of the commerce clause and the striking down of the Medicare imposition on states ripped the real guts out of Obamacare, while upholding the tax puts it back in the hands of Congress (where it should be) and allows us with reconciliation to eliminate it.

This is a key thing for the next couple months. The house has already scheduled a vote to repeal, but everyone says Ried will block it from the senate or the Dems won't vote for Cloture to allow it to come to a vote.

I believe that by this now being a tax and therefore being subject to budget reconciliation Ried and the Dems CAN'T block it from comeing to a vote.

So there may be a silver lining in that all the Dems currently in trouble for November may be forced to vote in support of the LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN HISTORY again right before the election.

That leaves two possible outcomes: There loss is all but assured if they vote to uphold the TAX or a couple may choose to vote against it to save themselves.

Sure, any vote before November is symbolic as Obastard will just Veto it, but whether it gets voted down or vetoed the Dem Senators that are in play in November will once more be on record.

38 posted on 06/29/2012 6:37:23 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Kaslin

Not sure which anti-seizure drug he’s on but they all have mental impairment side effects. These can range from confusion and disorientation to thoughts of suicide. A rumor has it that his liberal law clerks write the opinions. Hmmmmm!


39 posted on 06/29/2012 6:38:54 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: MEGoody

Read the article, it agrees with you.


40 posted on 06/29/2012 6:39:52 AM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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