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Green Energy Leaves 800.000 Germans In The Dark
Global Warming Policy Foundation ^ | 6/27/2012 | P Gosselin

Posted on 06/29/2012 8:16:14 AM PDT by listenhillary

Energy poverty is sweeping over modern Germany like never before.

Flagship German newspaper Die Welt has an online report titled: Fast 800.000 Deutsche können Strom nicht bezahlen. In English: Almost 800,000 Germans cannot pay for electricity.

As Germany subsidies wealthy homeowners and businesses owners to install solar panels on their homes and commercial buildings, low income families living in rented apartments are getting stuck footing skyrocketing electric bills. Many can no longer afford to pay for electricity, and so the utilities are cutting off their power.

Indeed high energy prices are causing everything else to get more expensive as well - all this while the euro is threatened to collapse under the weight of massive debt due to financial ineptitude.

So it’s little wonder that German politicians are beginning to panic and coming up with really nutty solutions. Instead of scaling back the cause of the energy mess (government meddling in the energy sector) they are threatening to do the opposite: i.e. meddle even more – much more.

Aribert Peters, Chairman of the Bund der Energieverbraucher (Association of Energy Consumers) says that already 600,000 to 800,000 people in Germany have had their electricity cut off, all thanks to skyrocketing electricity prices due to friendly green energy. Spooked, a number of leading politicians and consumer advocates are now calling for financial assistance for low income households, i.e. energy welfare. Die Welt writes:

"Energy companies should be obligated to offer the first 500 kilowatt-hours per household at a low rate, SPD (social democrat party) faction vice chairman Ulrich Kelber demanded in a strategy paper, which he wants to present to the SPD leaders.”

Peters of the Association of Energy Consumers, however, goes even further, saying there’s a need for a general cost exemption for the first 500 kilowatt hours consumed per year and household. The exemption should apply to all citizens.

Also the VdK Social Association of Hesse-Thuringia is demanding social tariffs. VdK chairman Udo Schlitt says that without a price rebate, more and more people with low incomes are going to have their power shut off. He proposes:

"Therefore all power producers must be mandated to offer binding social rates by law.”

So in summary, here’s Germany’s latest energy plan: 1) Force power companies to buy exorbitantly-priced, inefficient and intermittent-supply green energy on one side, and then force them to give it away, or sell it at a low price, on the sales side!

How long can that go on before it all collapses?


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; epa; fail; germany; green; solar
Coming to America? Likely energy for heating and cooling will be declared a right.
1 posted on 06/29/2012 8:16:17 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

Of course it will and the rest of us will be forced to subsidize it through yet another large tax hike.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 8:20:08 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: listenhillary

Looks like the ‘Metrosexuals’ apartament dwellers are getting their due.


3 posted on 06/29/2012 8:21:23 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: formosa

A mandate is NOT a tax! /sarc


4 posted on 06/29/2012 8:23:43 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (I don't mind you hitting me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi.)
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To: formosa
Not coming to America? But it is here now and will get worst. We have only the insane communists Democrats lead by the communists black Muslim King, King Obama. When will Americans learn.
5 posted on 06/29/2012 8:24:13 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: formosa

anyone have a large supply of those old hand cranked generators , you could make a killing LOL


6 posted on 06/29/2012 8:24:56 AM PDT by molson209
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To: listenhillary

.. low income families living in rented apartments are getting stuck footing skyrocketing electric bills. Many can no longer afford to pay for electricity, and so the utilities are cutting off their power.

Ahhh, Socialism is the napalm of today’s Progre$$ivists.. it smells like Victory.. and it leaves a charred remains of a society in its wake.. easily swept up.. all for the love of green.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 8:25:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well said.


8 posted on 06/29/2012 8:26:25 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: molson209

Didn’t Rush have a parody commercial a few years ago for Restless Leg Syndrome where the problem could be harnessed to generate electricity on a stationary bicycle?

Start pedaling, Germans!


9 posted on 06/29/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: listenhillary

The lower income or “takers” in society should really understand that the Liberal elites will throw them under the bus before that elite allows their power, standard of living or ideology to be threatened.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 8:27:46 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: listenhillary

“Green” energy isn’t about energy,

it’s about false righteousness.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 8:28:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


12 posted on 06/29/2012 8:28:19 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: listenhillary

Who knew the color Green was the key to defusing the legendary sensibility, ingenuity and intelligence of the Germans?

US Intelligence could have used this valuable information in World War II.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 8:28:28 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: listenhillary

Green Power leaves more Germans in the dark than the Hamburg raids.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 8:42:32 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesnÂ’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: listenhillary

My trip to Europe showed me that the Auto rental places asked me not to use E10 in the car, and the back country scenery had wind powered generators more abundant than Palm trees in Florida. Packs of 12 plus generators on one large Rapf field was not uncommon. Soon it will be a country of large propellers on the skyline.


15 posted on 06/29/2012 8:49:52 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: EyeGuy

Green is the new Red


16 posted on 06/29/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: listenhillary

Burn coal not corn.

Yes we are stupid.


17 posted on 06/29/2012 9:38:27 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: listenhillary
"Energy companies should be obligated to offer the first 500 kilowatt-hours per household at a low rate, SPD (social democrat party) faction vice chairman Ulrich Kelber demanded in a strategy paper, which he wants to present to the SPD leaders.”

These socialist are children, they are 5 year olds. They think that just because they wish that something was true that it its true.

Why not just dictate that the first 500 kilo-watt hours are free. Then everyone would be able to have electricity. Well that is until they used up their 500 kilo-watt hours then of course these people still would have no money for the now extremely expensive electricity.

What these children fail to realize it that the utilities still have to pay their creditors. If you give the poor cheap electricity the cost of that electricity is still the same and the difference in the cost of the Cheap electricity for the poor and what the real cost of the electricity has to be diverted to other consumers of electricity and some of that deferred cost will end up on the poor’s bill in raised rates subsequent to the cheap 500 kilo-watt hours. Everyone’s rates will go up including the poor.

The socialist believe that the laws of economics can be dictated by law. Unfortunately for the socialist and us the laws of economics (the market place if you prefer) are just like the laws of physics; they will not be cheated. In the end someone pays and when the government meddles in the market everyone pays more.

18 posted on 06/29/2012 9:39:52 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft; listenhillary
Soon it will be a country of large propellers on the skyline.

Large propellers and no birds.

Rachel Carson will finally have her silent spring thanks to the Green Movement and their bird Cuisinarts.

19 posted on 06/29/2012 9:44:23 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: listenhillary; All
Coming to America?/i>

Coming?

30 years ago, when I lived in California, in Monterey, my bill skyrocketed in the summer - instead of going down (our gas and electric were together, so summer = no gas for heat: ergo, bill should go down?)

But it skyrocketed. I could get no explanation. I went to the top and DEMANDED one.

They sent a rep out and 'explained' to me that, in the summer, it cost so much for people to keep their swimming pools heated (Monterey is COLD for summer and pools have to be heated).

"And WHAT does that have to do with ME and MY bill?" I asked. "I have no swimming pool no can I afford one.

"well," says he, "it's really expensive and it wouldn't be fair for them to have to pay it all, so we share the cost."

One more reason I left Kalifornia - 30 years ago.

20 posted on 06/29/2012 10:02:44 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Pontiac

Well said. You’re a lot smarter than Algore.


21 posted on 06/29/2012 10:35:03 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Thanks (I think)

Considering any one of my pet cats is smarter than AlGore I don’t know how to take that statement.


22 posted on 06/29/2012 10:55:40 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: listenhillary
There was a German FReeper who posted a story couple of weeks ago that Germany had met almost 50% of their electrical demand with solar power for the day. I forget his FReeper name... “Arbeit Macht Frei” or something like that? Why would they be having blackouts with their swell “renewable” energy policies?
23 posted on 06/29/2012 4:14:13 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: listenhillary

The world is full of stupid people who will go along with their government on every single issue even if it means their family has to sit in the dark and do without modern conveniences.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 4:30:02 PM PDT by kempo
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To: HenpeckedCon
Why would they be having blackouts with their swell “renewable” energy policies?

... had met almost 50% of their electrical demand with solar power for the day...

... and only for one day, and it wasn't hot, and the wind was blowing good.

25 posted on 06/29/2012 8:49:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: HenpeckedCon

I think a brown out smoked his computer, and he can no longer FReep...


26 posted on 06/30/2012 6:06:46 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: HenpeckedCon
Remembering the 50% solar post, it was 50% power on a Saturday during daylight hours as i recall.

reminds me of the joke (Maybe from the Onion) about congress voting to reduce gravity by 50% to stimulate the economy.

27 posted on 06/30/2012 6:24:44 AM PDT by quimby
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To: AFPhys
“I think a brown out smoked his computer, and he can no longer FReep...”

I think you're right. If he was able to FReep I'm sure we'd get a very good explanation of why so many Germans are in the dark. I'll bet it will be even better when they shut down all of their nuclear power too.

28 posted on 06/30/2012 7:07:57 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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