Skip to comments.House could arrest Holder with inherent contempt power
Posted on 06/29/2012 8:29:49 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
Despite voting to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress, theres little House Republicans can do in the short term to compel him to turn over documents unless it wanted to revisit a long-dormant power and arrest him.
The thought is shocking, and conjures up a Hollywood-ready standoff scene between House police and the FBI agents who protect the attorney general. Its a dramatic and unlikely possibility not least because Congress doesnt even have a jail any longer. But in theory it could happen.
Republicans say its not even under consideration, with House Speaker John A. Boehners spokesman flatly ruling it out.
But the process, known as inherent contempt, is well-established by precedent, has been confirmed by multiple Supreme Court rulings, and is available to any Congress willing to force such a confrontation.
The House is scared to death to use the inherent contempt power, said Mort Rosenberg, a fellow at the Constitution Project and author of When Congress Comes Calling. Theyre scared to death because the courts have said
the way the contempt power is used is unseemly. Its not that its unconstitutional, because its been upheld by four Supreme Court decisions, but unseemly to have somebody go arrest the attorney general.
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Its unseemly to have an Attorney General who needs to be arrested.
**Republicans say its not even under consideration, with House Speaker John A. Boehners spokesman flatly ruling it out.***
I would expect nothing less from Mr. Boehner.
The Dems were all hot to do it to Miers and Bolton:
A court case will take time, meaning theres little immediate effect of the two contempt votes.
So, nothing changes. What a friggin’ joke our Congress is.
The idea is a joke. The Washington Repubs are so gutless, they have zero courage to do anything serious about Holder’s crimes.
Forget about it.
If Holder is ever arrested I’ll be on the lookout for skittles falling from the sky...
I wonder if the Republicans in Congress would now have the ‘nads to say: “If General Holder is seen in the Capitol Building, at any given time, he will be arrested.” ???
Nah; they’d never do it. Not with crybaby in the Speaker’s Chair.
They’ll never arrest Holder. The Pubbies are spineless.
House Cryer John Boner, two inches of c*ck and no balls.
Call him to the House and the second he walks in to the chambers order the SA to handcuff and arrest him and remove him from the premises. Perp walk his A$$ down the steps to the street. As they remove his cuffs serve him his civil contempt papers..
Boehner drank the koolaid. He’s now a Beltway RINO.
Do not expect Holder to be arrested, no matter how deserving he is of arrest.
crybaby in the Speakers Chair, otherwise known as gnat ‘nads
Who goes to do the arrest, US Marshalls?
They can come and get me, too, because I probably have more contempt for Congress than all AG’s put together.
I’m sure Sheriff Joe can find room in his tent city complete with pink undies and baloney sandwiches.
That applies to FBI agents and the Attorney General.
He could be invited by Harry Reid to the Senate, but the second they step off the path into the range of the House they can not only be arrested, but tried for attempted insurrection against the government of the United States, tried, found guilty and hanged within the hour!
So, yeah, the power is there ~ a lot of power ~ and there is NO APPEAL.
So, why doesn't it happen more often?
That would be a good question but as you see nobody at the top will talk about it. The deal is it is enough to have the power. Using it could have some disadvantages ~ for example, other FBI agents might well be leery of working with Congress in the future.
So, are you telling us that you too have made policy decisions aimed at getting people murdered with weapons you purposely sent to the murderers>
The House of Representatives has a designated officer for that purpose. He is called the sergeant at arms. Read all about him here: http://www.house.gov/content/learn/officers_and_organizations/sergeant_at_arms.php
Good question, I think the Congress has their own security team which enforces their actions and provides security.
Everything else is under the DOJ and Holder.
Here's the way it works: The Times prints this story and some leftist blogger picks it up and posts a story on how the Times has a story about the possible use of 'inherent contempt' by the Repubs to put Holder in jail. Big Media pick it up and report it as a real story. Now the Repubs, who never even thought of this, look bad (as Big Media will make them look).
Voila! More pressure on the Repubs to be 'lenient'.
So if Issa’s committee called Holder before a committee hearing, the Sargeant at arms could take his skinny fascist ass into custody? I like it!
I sure hope not.
I think ths guy’s contempt consists in no turning over some documents.
My contempt is deeper and more fundamental. I think most of them are crooks.
It's an immutable law of the universe that there will always be enough Republicans to act like they are voting on country club bylaws governing the use of olives vs. onions as acceptable Martini garnishes while outside the garden gates Democrats are pulling apart the Republic.
Nancy Pelosi wanted to arrest Karl Rove WITHOUT a contempt charge.
Or anything more! Was his wower wip qwiverwing when he said it?
I think you’re right!
Has Boehner stopped sobbing yet?
Maybe Sebelius would like to testify before a House committee ~ the same thing could happen. But remember, she's tetched in the head so she'd be going in there while they were carrying the bodies of other traitors out past her. I can see her looking down her long nose at them and snorting.
Those who got in the way could be dealt with harshly ~ Pelosi would, of course, be running around screeching and screaming, so she'd have to be tied up at the least, and put in a closet so her sounds wouldn't disturb the others.
The whole Robespierre trickbag is all there.
Remember, a Congress or Parliament, no matter how well behaved, arose in a tumultuous time, or in a revolution, where the personal safety of the members was not secure so they had to band together in a common agreement ~ a COMPACT ~ to protect themselves. There is no higher authority than the House. Says so right in the Constitution.
Holder’s people in congress will go ape shiite if he’s arrested. They’ll make theatre out of it, big time.
Will the civil case have teeth?
To hold Holder in Contempt and then let him continue ignoring congress, will make the Executive branch feel like Congress is inconsequential. That's not good.
In response to the contempt vote, Holder was heard to say, “I believe I will blow my nose in your general direction.”
It'd have ONE CHAIR ~
This morning they said that the Stg. of Arms could put Holder into custody.
i’ve been saying that for years. The Constitution says the House makes its own rules. Presumably that includes those regarding crime ~
Remember, the Supreme Court only restricts the Executive ~ each House has total power that may be exercised at will. If Boehner won't do it he could be reminded of what happened to Georges Jacques Danton. Someone there will do the job that can be done to drive back the Executive's jack booted thugs.
I love it.
Low cost electrocutions during daylight hours!
Use something more reliable than green energy.
Use something more reliable than green energy.
"I know more than one way to skin a dog."
The pubbies don’t have the balls.
crybaby in the Speakers Chair, otherwise known as gnat nads
“gnat ‘nads”....... I warn you right now; I’m stealing that.
Time to start using it.
CSPAN could focus on Holder’s makeshift cell all night long.