It is the Right of the People to Alter or to Abolish It

Vanity ^ | 6/29/12 | EBH

[EBH]

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

It is time to get out from behind the keyboard and take real action. I've heard talks of another 'rally' etc. and was quick to say we didn't need another rally. And I still do not think we need another rally, but we need to take action. We tried writing them, talking to them, marching on them, and in some cases even yelling at them. And for all our efforts we got this instead,

And then we were again sucker punched yesterday by our very own US Supreme Court. We were informed bad law can be Constitutional and essentially we were also told it was up to We the People to deal with the elected officials.

Roberts said, Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

We can sit here and pound our keyboards or we can make the decision to exercise our Right that existed before the Constitution. It is our Right to 'alter or abolish it.' That kind of redress, will come from us getting out from behind our keyboards, becoming visible, and pounding the pavement to get out the vote.

While many of us feel extremely disenfranchised with our option for President we have a responsiblity to do all we can to hold the House of Representatives and rollover the Senate.

We have reached out to our congressional representatives and been rebuked. It is now time to make those symbolic pink slips from 2010 very real.

The first step is to make sure you are registered to vote and then make sure your family and friends are. This is the second step from Glenn Beck, but it is a very valid effort we should undertake along with the Tea Party. Are You Registered

I propose going into this July 4th take your computer etc. to your family picnics and ask your family/friends to check and then to register. If you are bold enough go to your 4th of July Parades and Fireworks and ask random strangers to check if they are indeed registered.

The Power has been given back to us. The only way this can change is through us and as frustrating as that sounds right now, it is as it should be for we are "We the People."

[Lady Lucky]

View my recent post for ideas on fighting back legally. You don’t have to shoot anybody. (Unless you want to!)

[Breto]

In America, July 4, 2012. The unanimous Declaration of the fifty united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King, in his own mind, Barak Obama is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them........

[Venturer]

Roberts said, Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.
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In other words he is saying that the Supreme Court is no longer into checks and balances, that they will rubber stamp anything the Congress and the Kenyan send them.

He just gave up any reason to even have a Supreme court.

[FrankR]

[EBH]

No, this thread is not about the ruling. That is over and done with, it is now about meeting the challange before us.

How many people will you register this July 4th to vote?

[EBH]

Please post your ideas on this thread. Checking back a few months from now on your profile that information and ideas may be lost. Feel free to add them here.

[TheRightGuy]

Roberts may have left us an opening ... it is now a supreme court ruling that the “mandate” is a TAX. Tax bills MUST originate in the House. The Affordable Healthcare Act originated in the Senate. Why can’t we have it struck down on those grounds? If the Supremes would give it a do-over it would never get through today’s House.

[EBH]

Let us focus on moving forward and securing the Senate and tossing out the corruption.

How many people will you register to vote on July 4th?

[EBH]

ping?

[MrB]

Essentially, Roberts “not our job” is saying that our country is a democracy, in which it doesn’t matter what the constitution says, if the majority want it, they get it.

If 50% + 1 vote want to kill the other 50% - 1 vote, so be it! It’s not up to the court to “protect people from the consequences of their political decisions”.

[jeffc]

I've always thought it easier (and within the law, which is my main aim) to get the liberals to agree that we really need to separate as we did in 1776 with England, except that both sides agree to the split.

Just do it by sitting down at a table and working out who gets what and divide the country. Better yet is to get them to think it's their idea.

[MrB]

Liberals will never agree to let half the country out from under their control freak thumbs.

[mbarker12474]

Secession is a good idea.

Either shooting, or secession.

Trouble is, the thieves and thugs understand that with secession, they’d lose their gravy. And so their would be shooting anyway.

If your neighbor comes into your house demanding your wealth, property, and labor, you have the natural right to shoot him, yes?

If your neighbor votes in a politician who sends the arm of government into your house demanding your wealth, property, and labor, do you still have the natural right to shoot your neighbor?

[hoosiermama]

Please re-post some of your great comments here to motivate others to stop whining and get to work in a positive direction....
ALL:

Let's agree to disagree on Roberts action. Put it behind us and get to work!

Contact, neighbors, friends, family make sure they registered to vote. Give them a reason to vote for your candidate.

Work with tea-party groups, get the best people on the ballot. Support the most conservative in your district. If your districts are safe help out others in your state.

If interested in helping in Senate races you may wish to check out
http://www.nrsc.org/

We, the People, have been given a mandate. It is to send to DC people who uphold the constitution and NOT play Alinsky type of games with word...like TAX/Penalty...or manipulate the congress by using a friendlier Senate to initiate a bill that was unsuccessful in the House...again an Alinsky move.

[Lady Lucky]

I don’t like to cut/paste, and it’s only the past few days or so, but if you insist, here’s a sample:

Moving — to a different state of submission?

A true option is to quit paying income tax, which you can do without legal repercussions by quitting the behavior of making income. That is, if you think the America you love is worth a sacrifice of some degree of comfort, affluence, and lifestyle.

If enough people stopped paying, the government would collapse in a matter of weeks or even days. If people organized and did it, with specific demands, there would not even be time for discussion. They could demand anything — any law, any resignations, any repeal — and get it, just by taking the pursestring reins in hand.

Moving will get you nowhere different.

Voting will get you nowhere different.

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[Lady Lucky]

Natural rights...that may be, but people who won’t even Galt, probably won’t gear up to shoot moochers and looters operating under color of authority.

Organize for sound and leverage, then shrug: quit making income and live like the Founders did — ruggedly for the sake of liberty.

These are the options: Shoot, Shrug, or Shut Up. The middle one is by far the fastest, cleanest, most effective method.

[Nowhere Man]

If at first you don’t secede, try, try again. Bookmark bump

[TheRightGuy]

How many people will you register to vote on July 4th?

Probably none. I am enrolled as Deputy Registrar and have been for over a dozen years. I generally start in September when I make the first canvass of my precinct. I don't carry my registgration packet with me, but do enquire as to registation status when pushing my candidate/s. If they express a positive feeling about my pitch, I'll go back later and register them. If they're RATs I won't.

I don't pass out motor-voter registration cards and I never solicit registations in malls or supermarket parking lots .. too many flakes out there.

[drypowder]

you think it matters what we the people want or vote for? Then watch the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
Caution : profanity. The man is a realist. The necessary action that will exact justice in this country lies in the original intent and purpose of the Second Amendment. If someone ever decides to exercise that right, the focus and imposition should be on those of power at cause.

[bcsco]

Since we're getting thunderstorms (finally) off-and-on, I don't want to stay online too much. FWIW, I'll simply provide this link to my first post on the thread we were on, letting anyone interested read the discussion there.

Maybe Roberts Got it Right After All

The fact is, we have a decision. It may not be the one we want, it's not the one I wanted to see for sure, but now we have to pick up the ball and run it home (that was an explicit part of the decision). So, how do we go about doing that?

[SuziQ]

The fact is, we have a decision. It may not be the one we want, it's not the one I wanted to see for sure, but now we have to pick up the ball and run it home (that was an explicit part of the decision). So, how do we go about doing that?

Get as much info about Obamacare, and the taxes that are the major part of the legislation, and give everyone you know that information. Encourage them, if they disagree with Obamacare, to vote for Representatives in the next election who are committed to repealing the Act.

Practically, it is mostly Republicans who want the act repealed, so getting as many of them in office as possible is the answer right now. Mitt Romney, though he wasn't my first choice, is the only viable alternative to Obama. He has said that he will sign the legislation that repeals Obamacare. So he'll need a majority in the House and the Senate to send him that legislation.

The one bright spot in all this is that because of the way the Democrats passed this Act, without discussion, and as part of a Reconciliation package, the repeal can be passed with a simple majority vote in the Senate; 51 votes. The Democrats can't filibuster it. ;o)
Hoist on their own petards, I'd say!

[hoosiermama]

Thanks bcsco.

Mel. thanks for the ping to Army Ranger thread....Going to link it here too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900945/posts

Excellent read. Hope everyone reads it!

[C.O. Correspondence]

It might be worth a try. I wish I had faith that it would work, but at least we could say we tried before exploring other option.

[Venturer]

How many people will you register this July 4th to vote?
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Well: I sure cannot beat ACORNS record, and most of my friends are already registered and are smart enough to actually make their own choice.