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Watch Live: George Zimmerman Attends Second Bond Hearing
http://www.wftv.com/s/watchlive/ ^ | 6/29/2012 | WFTV

Posted on 06/29/2012 9:11:26 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

Watch Live: George Zimmerman Attends Second Bond Hearing

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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I believe this just started. Zimmerman's lawyer O'Mara said Trayvon caused his own death due to his attack on Zimmerman and the state's case is weak.
1 posted on 06/29/2012 9:11:32 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Well, it started at 9:30 am per WFTV and Zimmermans father testified it was his son screaming that night. WFTV will probably have the whole video of the hearing up soon. No decision yet by the judge.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 9:19:11 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do you think George Zimmerman deserves a new bond?

Yes(66%)

No(34%)

http://cfnews13.com/


3 posted on 06/29/2012 9:24:03 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

any news?
bfl


4 posted on 06/29/2012 9:33:30 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The case isn’t just weak, its the illegitimate, back-stairs bastard child of an unholy alliance between a mob of black race baiters and a particularly repulsive careerist prosecutor.

Its such an outrageous miscarriage of “justice” that I admit I have difficulty hearing or reading about it without getting p*ssed off.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 9:35:56 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I just went to the site and don’t see any hearing going on. Is it over or has it not started?


6 posted on 06/29/2012 9:38:47 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: sheikdetailfeather
O'Mara was on fire today and BDLR looked like he was all wet. His questions were ridiculous and was handed his lunch by the answers.

MoM got a lot entered into evidence over BDLR's objection -- GZ's statements, injury photos, witness statements, 911 call of GZ screaming for help, and that 7-11 video of a tall Trayvon with his hoodie up, photobutton on, and store clerk constantly watching him as if he was going to lift something.

BDLR hated seeing that 7-11 video. They are still pushing the 12 year old boy image of TM.

The ball is in Lester's Court now. There was enough evidence presented today that he should just dismiss the case, or for now, just release him without bond.

7 posted on 06/29/2012 9:39:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“There was enough evidence presented today that he should just dismiss the case, or for now, just release him without bond.”

***

O for a jurist with a pair of balls!


8 posted on 06/29/2012 9:46:25 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: gzzimlich
All the prosecution's so-called evidence is a bluff.

Their entire case is "GZ lied" without any evidence of those lies.

BDLR had a golden opportunity to enter DeeDee's testimony into evidence today because he needed help, but chose not to. They are scared to put her up there.

And he didn't call Sybrina to the stand to counter GZ's father who said that the screams were definitely those of his son.

When asked how he could scream with his mouth being smothered by TM, his father answered that the injuries to his son's head show that his nose and mouth weren't the only place where TM had his two hands.

Anyone watching and listening had to walk away stunned at the beating the prosecution took today, and how the judge could possibly not grant bail, yet at the end of the day the judge still insinuates that there is still probable cause ---

The looks on the faces of Team Skittles in the courtroom show that they are going to now go into damage control. The prosecution went nuts when the 7-11 video was presented. No matter how the judge rules, this was bad for Team Skittles today.

Now watch the spin on the nightly news ---

9 posted on 06/29/2012 10:16:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“When asked how he could scream with his mouth being smothered by TM, his father answered that the injuries to his son’s head show that his nose and mouth weren’t the only place where TM had his two hands.”

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Nice! That had to hurt.

Thanks for the commentary btw.. I couldn’t follow online due to location problems with the vidya.

The extent of the spin by the media dupes is the real story here, imo. They might as well have turned over their newsrooms to Crump, Jackson and the rest of the feces flingers who were shrieking for GZ’s head.

One of the reasons I joined up instead of continuing to lurk was surprise at the number of people on here who went hook, line and sinker for the MSM’s character assassination of GZ in the days immediately following the incident.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 10:37:37 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: Spunky

Sorry Spunky. I had turned the channel on tv and must have come in right before it all ended. I am searching for the full video but no luck yet.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 10:41:29 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: hoosiermama

No news yet. I wish I could have seen the hearing from the beginning. Sounds like it was rocking with his father in there. I heard O’Mara ask “Did George use the legal defense fund to go to Disney?” lol!!!


12 posted on 06/29/2012 10:43:05 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Zimmerman
13 posted on 06/29/2012 10:53:26 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Uncle Chip

I was impressed by O’Mara’s low key performance. He more than got the job done in a quiet effective manner. Getting the 7-Eleven video before the judge was a master stroke. When the judge sees that video he’s going to have to wonder what was going on with Martin.

Anybody in their right mind seeing Martin’s shuffle and disoriented actions in the 7-Eleven would be on the alert just like the clerk.

I’d like to see O’Mara get a couple of experts to review DeeCee’s statement. The investigator lead her around like a dog. He never explored the fact that the girl was not Martin’s girlfriend or asked her why she didn’t go to the funeral. IIRC she had something more important to do like going shopping.

The answer to why she skipped the funeral is she didn’t really give a crap. Crump though had to use her to pluck heart strings. O’Mara will have fun with her. She admitted in her statement that they were not an item. She also mentioned going to see about her high blood pressure. That was not what her twitters said.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 11:07:31 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: gzzimlich

I too fell for the MSM portrayal of the shooting until the lies began to be exposed and the evidence began to surface.

Too many people were taken in by the PR firm hired by Team Crump and are still too proud to admit that they were deceived.

After the hearing today, they had very little to say to the media which was I’m sure now asking tougher questions, like ‘what do you think of the defense’s evidence presented today portraying TM as a victim of his own actions’.


15 posted on 06/29/2012 11:07:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: gzzimlich
One of the reasons I joined up instead of continuing to lurk was surprise at the number of people on here who went hook, line and sinker for the MSM’s character assassination of GZ in the days immediately following the incident.

When you have an OPEN FORUM funded by donations, you end up with a bell curve of the population. There are always some inexperienced and immature voices. Then there are those 'behind the curve' on current facts. There are even a few who know the facts, but refuse to accept them.

Heck, they even allow me to post here. Talk about Diversity.

16 posted on 06/29/2012 11:20:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: meatloaf

One might get the idea that DeeDee was Martin’s ‘bundler’.

She fenced any goods he stole, and provided new leads for drug sales. All in a very informal way, or course, with all due respect to the black ‘drug’ culture.


17 posted on 06/29/2012 11:27:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: meatloaf
Yep-- he earned his money today.

And I expect that the 7-Eleven video will speak volumes as to TM's mindset that night.

There are laws against wearing hoodies in Florida but there he is. And he is rocking back and forth like he's on something. The clerk is watching him as if he expected him to pull out a weapon at any moment.

And that photobutton on the sweatshirt was found in his pocket. Why was it in his pocket??? His taking it off and putting it in his pocket to keep it safe from his expected confrontation shows premeditation on his part -- big time.

And he asks the clerk for something behind the counter and the clerk refuses to sell it to him. What was it -- something else illegal for him to have.

And he definitely looks like he's taller than 5'11" and probably was. The autopsy did not say that he was 5'11" Tall. It said that he was 5'11" Long. He was taller in life than he was longer in death. That video shows someone 6 foot or taller.

And I hope the police tested that can of Arizona Juice for GZ's blood. It was probably used as the weapon that opened the gash on the back of his head.

I'll bet that clerk is on the witness list. I hope he stays safe.

And as far as DeeDee, if she actually thought TM was in danger that night, why didn't she call 911, or call him the next morning to see if he was all right, or the day after or the day after, or the police or his parents or anybody. She wasn't worried about him because she knew that he was a good fighter and could take care of himself. It's possible that TM told DD that he was going to beat GZ down and teach him a lesson and when he didn't call back she decided to lay low lest she be dragged into it.

And from what I understand the phone records of TM's and DeeDee phones don't line up. That's Crump's doing.

Team Skittles left court today in full damage control mode --

18 posted on 06/29/2012 11:47:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I read somewhere that the hearing ended without a decision. So George gets another weekend as a guest of the State.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 12:28:11 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda countered that, if anyone was acting in self-defense, it was Trayvon Martin. De La Rionda described the teen as an “innocent victim” who was profiled.

“What you have here is basically a defendant who perceives himself as the police out there,” De La Rionda said.

That tells you what BDLR thinks of the police -- they're profilers of innocent victims.

20 posted on 06/29/2012 12:49:09 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do we have anyone with enough legal expertise to tell us when the ruling might come down?


21 posted on 06/29/2012 12:53:22 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Uncle Chip

Team Crump didn’t fare well today. Crump did do a pretty good imitation of a man getting kicked in the nuts. I finally got interested enough to figure out who Trayvon’s little brother was that DeeCee referred to. I was Brandy Green’s 14 year old son that was left with Trayvon when she and Trayvon’s dad went out that night.

That brings up the question of why they didn’t ask the fourteen year old where Trayvon went. It was the fourteen year old that supposedly wanted the skittles. Tryavon went out before 7:00 pm and was still gone at 2:00 am the next day. I would have checked the neighborhood and at least gone to the 7-Eleven when the fourteen year old old me Trayvon didn’t come back.

The father must be carrying a boatload of guilt if he hasn’t rationalized it away. Same for the mother. With both of them on a pity tour capitalizing on their son’s death, their collective conscious seems to have been kicked to the curb.


22 posted on 06/29/2012 1:02:09 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: CurlyDave
I think the law in Florida gives him a certain amount of time to reach a decision -- not sure what that is.

O'Mara said that the Judge has 8 to 10 hours of evidence he has to review before making a decision.

Odds are on other websites that he will leave town for an undisclosed vacation location and phone his decision in.

23 posted on 06/29/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: meatloaf

From the police report it appears that Trayvon had been there for about a week since his suspension. That’s what Traydad told the police. A week of unsupervised suspension.

I’ll bet the 14 year old would say that Tray came and went at all hours of the day and night, and the fact that he wasn’t around from 6 to whenever was not out of the ordinary.

I’m sure the parents are carrying a load of guilt, but dumping it on GZ just adds insult to injury. They should be ashamed to darken the doors of a church.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 1:21:08 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Today what was entered into the court record was the testimony that TM was not so "unarmed" as the media has been saying repeatedly:

EMT O'Rourke says when he arrived at the scene, about 45 percent of Zimmerman's head and face was covered in blood.

He suggested Zimmerman needed stitches in his head, and says he "absolutely" had a broken nose. O'Rourke says Zimmerman's injuries were consistent with being struck by a "hard object."

What could that "hard object" wielded by the allegedly "unarmed" Trayvon Martin have been???

25 posted on 06/29/2012 1:46:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

There is almost no way a marginal student can recover from a two week suspension from school, especially if he is left unsupervised. You might think that his parents would be demanding that he spend all of his time studying and doing homework, strictly confined to the house. Staying out late at night would seem to be ruled out completely, not only for the student, but also for his parents.

The effect of many news articles and editorials on this subject changes dramatically if you substitute the word “unsupervised” for the word “unarmed.” e.g., “Mr. Martin was un-(————) when he encountered Mr. Zimmerman.”


26 posted on 06/29/2012 3:18:52 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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To: manforallseasons

Was Tracy Martin’s girlfriend/fiancee, Brandy Green at the bond hearing? She seems to have disappeared entirely from public view a few months ago.


27 posted on 06/29/2012 3:22:34 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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To: manforallseasons
Was Tracy Martin’s girlfriend/fiancee, Brandy Green at the bond hearing?

Nope.

28 posted on 06/29/2012 3:58:17 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
From the police report it appears that Trayvon had been there for about a week since his suspension.

But ... but ... but ... didn’t you tell me that Trayvon only arrived in Sanford that Sunday afternoon???

O'Mara tried to get the judge to agree that the prosecution couldn't cross-examine Zimmerman if he took the stand. Instead he suggested that the judge only ask questions of Zimmerman. Wow, just wow.

Have you seen the new website started by Grace Zimmerman, George's sister? Of course, she's looking for more money. Click here to donate.

29 posted on 06/29/2012 4:02:40 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip
There are laws against wearing hoodies in Florida

Shirley you can't be serious?

Does the University of Florida Levine College of Law know about that law?

Call out the Fashion Police SWAT team and bust those scofflaws!

30 posted on 06/29/2012 4:23:33 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Beach_Babe
But ... but ... but ... didn’t you tell me that Trayvon only arrived in Sanford that Sunday afternoon???

I did but then I read the police report in which Traydad told the detective that he'd been there for a week. If you wish to repost your conspiracy theory again, I promise to reconsider it in light of the new evidence.

O'Mara tried to get the judge to agree that the prosecution couldn't cross-examine Zimmerman if he took the stand. Instead he suggested that the judge only ask questions of Zimmerman.

I think that's the way it works in an SYG hearing, and being that that will be next on the agenda, that's not an unusual request.

Zimmerman didn't need to take the stand today. O'Mara did enough damage to the prosecution's case today with what he submitted into evidence that GZ may never have to take the witness stand.

On the otherhand Sybrina was there. Where was her testimony??? And where is DeeDee and that toxicology report??? and Brandy Green -- did she fall off the planet???

31 posted on 06/29/2012 4:52:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Oztrich Boy

Try wearing one into your bank and see how far you get.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 5:04:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Oztrich Boy

<>There are laws against wearing hoodies in Florida. Shirley you can’t be serious? Does the University of Florida Levine College of Law know about that law?<>

They should:

CRIMINAL ANARCHY, TREASON, AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

876.12:Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way. No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/876.12


33 posted on 06/29/2012 6:25:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Are you saying that when SYG is claimed by the defense, the prosecutor is not allowed to cross examine the defendant ... if the defendant testifies ... during the trial? I assume, like today, George will never take the stand.

Although O’Mara tried to turn today’s proceedings into a mini-trial, it was just supposed to be a bond hearing. I suppose the testimony of the witnesses will happen at the actual trial.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
I will never understand the people who think that it's just fine and dandy to just lock people accused of crimes in jail, while they await trial, for days, weeks, months and even years!
As if jail was just a neutral mini-med vacation from life or something.

George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.
No question or argument about that exists.He did not run and hide. There was no element of “capturing” him involved.
The why and how of Martins death was supposedly under impartial police investigation, before this whole media/political farcical circus began.

Would you care to spend days, weeks, months or even years locked up in jail before the government deigns to schedule your trial?

WTF is wrong with you people?!!!

The primary point of the SYG law is that we, the people, do NOT want to add insult to injury, and peremptorily punish the survivor of a lethal criminal confrontation for merely successfully defending his/her self.

This is not a game or a TV show.

35 posted on 06/29/2012 7:57:42 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Beach_Babe
My understanding is that it is between he and the judge, and if the judge believes him then it is over. But it can turn into a mini-trial if the judge so chooses.

Although O’Mara tried to turn today’s proceedings into a mini-trial, it was just supposed to be a bond hearing.

Well part of the bond determination process is the strength of the case of the prosecution, and all along the judge has been saying how strong the case is against GZ. So today MoM presented evidence to show how weak the state's case really is, and thus why bond should be minimal.

I suppose the testimony of the witnesses will happen at the actual trial.

Why wait. Start putting things into the court record right now if you got them. Show how strong the state's case is -- if you have a case.

Today MoM entered into the court record the testimony of the EMT, GZ's statements, the statements of 3 witnesses, the testimony of GZ's father, a 911 tape and the testimony of a forensic accountant regarding the Paypal money, and dared BDLR to call witnesses to counter their testimony.

Sybrina was right there in court with Tracy and he didn't call them even though they are half his case, and he alluded to DeeDee but she will never take the witness stand because MoM will ask her about TM's drug use and she will sing like a bird.

What today showed is that all the state has is the tired old mantra "GZ lied" without any evidence that he lied. In a moment of frustration BDLR blurted out their theory: "he profiled him, chased him down, and shot him". Great BDLR, if you believe that then present your evidence for your imaginative speculation. Let's see it. There is none. He knows it and the judge knows it and Team Skittles know it. It was written all over their faces today.

MoM presented enough evidence today that a reasonable judge would dismiss all charges and send everybody home and save all parties a lot of time and money.

Right now he's having a John Roberts crisis of conscience, and so is anyone who watched this hearing today with any kind of rational mind.

36 posted on 06/29/2012 8:20:26 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sarasmom
WTF is wrong with you people?!!!

My, my ...

If I remember correctly, it was Mr. O'Mara who waived Mr. Zimmerman's right to a speedy trial.

I don't give a rat's a$$ is he gets out on bond or not. And if it is deemed a higher bond, I'm sure you'll dig deeper into your pocket. To make it easier, there's a link above to Grace Zimmerman's "gimme money" page.

BTW, the author of Florida's SYG law stated it did not apply in this instance ... but time will tell.

37 posted on 06/29/2012 8:20:53 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip
The "SECOND BAIL HEARING" was about whether George Zimmerman should be let out a jail a SECOND TIME after he was ordered to return back to JAIL ... after defrauding the court.
38 posted on 06/29/2012 8:33:01 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe

Thanks for the link, I just donated again.


39 posted on 06/29/2012 8:37:24 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Beach_Babe
No -- you're wrong. Today the court was back to square one in that regard. If he committed perjury, then why hasn't the prosecution so charged him -- because he didn't. Sitting like a potted plant is not perjury and the judge knows it. Perjury is very specific.

And the forensic accountant today testified that all the moneys were accounted for and there was no deception in the bank transfers. And there was nothing illegal about any of those financial transfers.

The state may have wanted it to be about deceiving the court, but it's not Shellie on trial but George.

In a bond hearing, the strength of the state's case is a part of the bond determination and today the illusion of the state's case came apart -- big time. If these things were not supposed to be part of the bond hearing, then why did the judge allow them and the prosecution fail to object, and all these things damning to the state's case become part of the court record???

40 posted on 06/29/2012 8:53:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: meatloaf

The State did poorly today, especially in the summation, but the judge was clearly sympathic to the state and somewhat hostile to Zimmerman.

The judge falsely claimed in his last bail decision that the state had a lot of evidence against Zimmerman when he has not even heard all the evidence yet. He has made up his mind about this case. Hopefully, a jury will be open to the evidence. The judge has decided based on what Cory tells him, without the evidence.

He’s not going to give George bail. He hates him.


41 posted on 06/29/2012 9:08:34 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Beach_Babe
I don't give a rat's a$$ if he gets out on bond or not.

Oh really? That's breathtakingly callous, given the evidence available thus far. A truly disturbing attitude.

42 posted on 06/29/2012 9:36:34 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: SaraJohnson

<>He’s not going to give George bail.<>

Ohhh — I’m sure he will because otherwise MoM will go over his head and appeal his decision. And if Lester was paying attention at all today, then he has to realize that MoM laid the groundwork for exactly that — an appeal, and judges hate being overturned on appeal. This might help explain the judge’s quandary:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/6/13/13212/2614


43 posted on 06/29/2012 9:46:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I was surprised the the State didn't bring up that Zimmerman failed to appear in a previous court case and was fined $10,000.

It wasn't serious, federal civil lawsuit, but still ...

I said there is internet chatter about Zimmerman and Taffee -- that they displayed hightened interest in Martin in the week leading up to his death. I have no idea if it true or not -- it's just out there. Taffee was in court today, right-hand side towards the back.

44 posted on 06/29/2012 10:39:32 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
I was surprised the the State didn't bring up

I wasn't. It was irrelevant and even those who remembered enough about it dismissed it. If there had been one scintilla of relevance to it, BDLR would have been all over it because as it was today he looked incompetent and unprepared.

I said there is internet chatter about Zimmerman and Taffee

Then BDLR should have called him to the stand yesterday. All the Team Skittles has is "chatter" and their teeth were chattering yesterday as they were handed their come-upens. I haven't seen any evidence from their side at all -- merely "chatter".

BTW in addition to being in possession of an illegal substance [drugs in his system], was TM also in breach of this Florida law:

876.12:Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way. No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state.

DeeDee testified in her deposition that TM put the hoodie up when he realized that he was being watched by GZ and just before he ran.

Was it to conceal his identity on the public walkway at the condos, just like he used it to conceal his identity at the 7-Eleven store??? It sure does appear that TM had no respect for the law and ....

And why did he take that photobutton off and put it in his pocket??? Was he anticipating a fight and didn't want to lose it??? It sure appears like premeditation to me.

45 posted on 06/30/2012 5:04:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: manforallseasons; Beach_Babe
She seems to have disappeared entirely from public view a few months ago.

The reason that Brandi Green appears to have disappeared from view appears to be her occupation. Aside from being Tracy's gf, she is also reportedly a juvenile detention officer in Orlando. That might explain why this troubled youth was staying with her up in Sanford, and not with his parents down in Miami, and why she has been sent into public relations exile.

46 posted on 06/30/2012 7:39:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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As the judge has already determined that Zimmerman is guilty before the trial, as conveyed in his written statement on revoking his bail, the judge has shown his hand. To me, it does not matter what his excuse was to do this, that he did it is unforgivable.

To make this determination based on Cory’s race bait before even hearing the evidence, his object is not justice, rather being a liberal show boat for a political race hate trial. The ends justifies the means with judges committed to the ideology of race and social justice. He’s doing all he can to railroad the defendent.


47 posted on 06/30/2012 8:16:11 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Then BDLR should have called him to the stand yesterday.

I think there is an Ammendment that says the prosecutor cannot require the perp to testify.

48 posted on 06/30/2012 10:56:29 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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I think there is an Ammendment that says the prosecutor cannot require the perp to testify.

That must be this one:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury ....nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

What happened to the Grand Jury??? Did they forget that part too.

49 posted on 06/30/2012 12:34:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury

Murder1 is Capital, requires a Grand Jury. Murder2: George is only looking at Life, no Grand Jury inditment required.

50 posted on 06/30/2012 4:01:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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