Posted on 06/29/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by quimby
Yes, this is new, and Roberts did make it so.
I am well aware of all the confiscatory and predatory powers of Congress. Up to now, I had always thought the Supreme Court had my back. Up to now I believed, rightly or wrongly, that there was a check on those powers.
Now I know there are only 2 branches of government. The Supreme Court has Congress’s back; not mine. And Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Kennedy agree with me.
What Roberts has done is restore the rights of Kings. He has overruled the Magna Carta.
I think that was what Roberts is trying to point out. It is not the Courts job to correct stupid laws that the people we elected pass.
Roberts certainly did his best to correct this stupid law with his twisted logic (its a tax except it isn't)
But I agree with you and Levin that ultimately it is we the people that bear the ultimate responsibility. But you give Roberts too much credit, something Levin does not.
Thank you for the clarification. But it seems that the WSJ had no contribution to health care issue but their concern was with taxes, not surprising for them. As for limits on Congress, when they can draft me, give me a rifle and send me to France, Congress to require health insurance seems trifle. Another Congress can undo the AHC law whenever. As the old Brooklyn baseball fans said 'wait till next year'.
“The Bush presidents gave us some real gems on the court.”
Les we forget Bush I gave us Justice Thomas and
Bush II gave us Alito. I can think of no one with more integrity than Clarence Thomas, and I believe Alito will prove his worth too.
I cannot imagine what they are thinking today after Roberts’turncoat decision.
Maybe I have just been more cynical than you. Up until now.
The Supreme Court has my back? Sometimes they are just a short roadblock. As Mark Levin said “we don’t have to win just one decision, we have to win them all”. Meaning, sooner or later we’re screwed.
Now, you can believe this or not. I think now you may be a believer.
“Roberts certainly did his best to correct this stupid law with his twisted logic (its a tax except it isn’t)”
Oh it’s a tax alright. Always was. Good thing it was passed by the wrong branch of Congress. And the Republicans should be shouting from the rooftops about the largest tax increase in history.
And then go about abolishing it because taxes can’t orginate in the Senate.
Yes I believed that Scalia, Alito, and Thomas had my back. I had trusted Roberts too, especially after the Citizens United ruling making corporations individuals.
What I did not believe is that Roberts would rewrite laws for Congress. So call me sucker-punched. But if you believe we can win them all, then I’m more cynical than you - lol.
Completely wrong.
Looks like you didn’t bother to read the article or more importantly the dissent.
“Supreme Court precedents going back to the 1920s and 1930s define penalties and taxes as mutually exclusive and critically different.”
For the first time ever the SC has held that a penalty is a tax. Never done before, against all precedent, all of it.
Roberts made this up out of whole cloth. It’s all new.
You misunderstood. I don’t believe we can win them all. That’s the whole point. Sooner or later we’re screwed. Roberts just brought that to light.
The Conservatives, few that they are, need to be pushing this hard. It is a winning strategy.
It was time for the agenda of the progressives and commies in our govt. to finally be pushed into the light. If this is played right then the socialist strategy for America is dead.
What, you expect congress to follow the Constitution now? Hope you are right.
BTW, its not a tax per Roberts for purposes of a new legal challenge.
Except we're dealing with people for whom neither the constitution nor the laws mean what they say. That's what so astounding to me about this decision. For years the court has been twisting the meaning of the constitution. Now it flat out declares that specific words in legislation do not mean what they really mean: a mandate is a tax.
It’s my understanding that he didn’t say the penalty was a tax but the mandate. The mandate that everyone have insurance. The dissent I agree with totally. What Roberts did IMO was wrong. But he did it, again in my opinion, as payback for what Obama has said about his court.
The one screwed here is Obamacare and Obama and the commies on the left.
BTTT!
Impeach Roberts!!!!
Can we...Seriously? What would it take?
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