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Issa’s secret gunwalking wiretaps revealed in Congressional Record
Washington Times ^ | June 29, 2012 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/29/2012 12:03:55 PM PDT by Red Steel

Rep. Darrell Issa managed to push the details of a secret wiretap application from the botched “Fast and Furious” gunwalking operation into the public domain this week when he entered summaries into the Congressional Record, apparently using Congress‘ protection under the speech and debate clause to get around legal boundaries.

The summary of a March 2010 wiretap application shows that federal agents repeatedly lost track of guns they knew were being trafficked back to cartels in Mexico — a violation of Justice Department policy that should have raised red flags with top department officials who signed off on the wiretaps, said Mr. Issa, California Republican and chairman of the oversight committee that is looking into the operation.

Mr. Issa introduced the summary as part of the House’s debate Thursday before lawmakers held a historic vote to to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress.

Mr. Issa contends the wiretap application contradicts Mr. Holder’s claim that nothing in there would have shown gunwalking was going on.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico
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1 posted on 06/29/2012 12:04:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Eric Holder and Obama are going to get WaterGated. :-)


2 posted on 06/29/2012 12:05:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Shouldn’t that be “Holder's Secret Gunwalking Wiretaps . . .”?
3 posted on 06/29/2012 12:07:36 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Red Steel

I think Holder knows where a whole lot of “bodies” are buried in this administration and he’s holding that on Teh One. Time will tell but I bet he sings in the same range as Halderman and Erlichman


4 posted on 06/29/2012 12:10:10 PM PDT by sierrahome
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To: Red Steel

This is how we know propaganda: it’s always, “botched,” and virtually never failed, flawed, or ill-advised. This program went exactly as designed, until they were caught.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 12:12:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: sierrahome

AMEN!! PRAY!!!!


6 posted on 06/29/2012 12:13:05 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Red Steel

Republicans got in trouble for providing weapons to the freedom fighters in Nicaragua. Can we do any less to Democrats who provide weapons to drug cartels?


7 posted on 06/29/2012 12:13:18 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Red Steel

Anything less than the gallows is a gross miscarriage of justice.


8 posted on 06/29/2012 12:22:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red Steel

Anything less than the gallows is a gross miscarriage of justice.


9 posted on 06/29/2012 12:22:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Exactly. Some people only skim headlines in print/online...


10 posted on 06/29/2012 12:24:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Red Steel

Go Issa, Go! Get those slimeballs.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 12:24:32 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: sierrahome

If so, Holder needs to stay out of parks...and off of airplanes.


12 posted on 06/29/2012 12:24:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Red Steel

Fox News just reported that DOJ will not prosecute Holder for contempt.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 12:26:25 PM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: sierrahome
I think Holder knows where a whole lot of “bodies” are buried in this administration and he’s holding that on Teh One.

Holder is a long time dem political "fixer" (he engineered the Marc Rich and FALN pardons during the Clinton administration) so I'd be willing to bet he knows where ALL the bodies are buried in the entire dem plantation, including the Clintons.

Mark

14 posted on 06/29/2012 12:30:50 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Red Steel

Unless this info get’s into the MSM echo chamber, where media feel’s compelled to report it every five minutes (think Monica Lewinsky, or Gary Condit) this will go nowhere. It’s too complex for the “America’s got Talent” crowd to spend more than 7 seconds of attention span on.


15 posted on 06/29/2012 12:30:54 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: HOYA97
Fox News just reported that DOJ will not prosecute Holder for contempt.

Well yeah, Holder bringing charges against Holder is not going to happen. LoL.

Holder has much bigger problems brewing here than just contempt of Congress.

16 posted on 06/29/2012 12:31:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: HOYA97

Fox News just reported that DOJ will not prosecute Holder for contempt.
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Issa’s move now. How soon before the Committee hires the outside prosecutor?


17 posted on 06/29/2012 12:39:26 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Red Steel

Really?

Who will prosecute him? Who has standing and will risk any chance of a political future bringing charges? Not to mention the automatic hate crime charge for daring to prosecute Holder.


18 posted on 06/29/2012 12:42:01 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Covenantor

Couldn’t congress come up with some new charges. Like obstruction of Justice against the DOJ. Is there no check and balance on a Department of Justice gone to the lawlessness.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 12:47:42 PM PDT by Revel
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To: hoosiermama; MestaMachine
I've been busy. Since I gave the link to the June 28 Congressional Record submission by Rep. Issa, I've been going over it culling out anything related to wiretaps. I'm posting the material below. This is from the Congressional Record and does NOT include any of the confidential wirtap material or letters referencing them; simply the CR public record. Still, there's a lot of really good information...

Congressional Record
June 28, 2012

Page #3: In addition to leading the Fast and Furious OCDETF task force, the U.S. Attorney’s Office was instrumental in preparing the wiretap applications that were submitted to the Justice Department’s Criminal Division. Federal prosecutors in Arizona filed at least six of these applications, each containing immense detail about operational tactics and specific information about straw purchasers, in federal court after Department headquarters authorized them.

Page #4: WIRETAPS At about the same time, senior lawyers in the Criminal Division authorized wiretap applications for Fast and Furious to be submitted to a federal judge. Fast and Furious involved the use of seven wiretaps between March and July of 2010.

In a letter to Chairman Issa, the Deputy Attorney General acknowledged that the Office of Enforcement Operations (OEO), part of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, is ‘‘primarily responsible for the Department’s statutory wiretap authorizations.’’ 37 According to the letter, lawyers in OEO review these wiretap packages to ensure that they ‘‘meet statutory requirements and DOJ policies.’’ 38 When OEO completes its review of a wiretap package, federal law provides that the Attorney General or his designee— in practice, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Criminal Division—reviews and authorizes it.39 Each wiretap package includes an affidavit which details the factual basis upon which the authorization is sought. Each application for Fast and Furious included a memorandum from Assistant Attorney General Breuer to Paul O’Brien, Director of OEO, authorizing the interception application.40

The Criminal Division’s approval of the wiretap applications in Fast and Furious violated Department of Justice policy. The core mission of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives is to ‘‘protect[ ] our communities from . . . the illegal use and trafficking of firearms.’’ 41

The wiretap applications document the extensive involvement of the Criminal Division in Fast and Furious. These applications were constructed from raw data contained in hundreds of Reports of Investigation (ROI); the Department of Justice failed to produce any of these ROI in response to the Committee’s subpoena. The Criminal Division authorized Fast and Furious wiretap applications on March 10, 2010; April 15, 2010; May 6, 2010; May 14, 2010; June 1, 2010; and July 1, 2010. Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco, and Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Keeney signed these applications on behalf of Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer.

Page #12 The Committee also obtained copies of wiretap applications authorized by senior Department officials during Operation Fast and Furious. These documents, given to the Committee by whistleblowers, shined light on category (a). Still, many subpoenaed documents under this category have been deliberately withheld by the Department. These documents are critical to understanding who is responsible for failing to promptly stop Fast and Furious. The Department has cited such documents as ‘‘core investigative’’ materials that pertain to ‘‘pending law enforcement matters.’’ 150 To accommodate the Department’s interest in successfully prosecuting criminal defendants in this case, the Committee is willing to accept production of these documents after the current prosecutions of the 20 straw purchasers indicted in January 2011, have concluded at the trial level. This deferment should in no way be interpreted as the Committee ceding its legitimate right to receive these documents, but instead solely as an accommodation meant to alleviate the Department’s concerns about preserving the integrity of the ongoing prosecutions.

Page #20 The Department's leadership allowed the ATF to implement this flawed strategy, fully aware of what was taking place on the ground. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona encouraged and supported every single facet of Fast and Furious. Main Justice was involved in providing support and approving various aspeds of the Operation, including wiretap applications that would necessarily include painstakingly detailed descriptions of what ATF knew about the straw buyers it was monitoring.

Page #105-106 C. Lanny Breuer and the Department of Justice Gil and Canino received the same message of support for Operation Fast and Furious from the Department of Justice. During a visit to Mexico, Lanny Breuer, the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division demonstrated his awareness of the case: Mr. [Breuer] kind of summed up his take on everything at the end, and one of them was that there's an investigation that ATF is conducting that looks like it's going to generate some good results and it will be a good positive case that we can prescnt to the Government of Mexico as efforts that the US Government is taking to try and interdict weapons going into Mexico. And that was about - that was it. That was just a general statement. Myself and my deputy I believe were in the room and we kind of looked at each other. We're a\vare of this case, and so we assumed that's what he WaS mentioning. And we just wanted to make sure - we look at each other going, hope the ambassador [Carlos Pascual] doesn't ask any questions because we really don't know anything about the case. And luckily the ambassador did 110t. 114

Canino also remembered a visit from Breuer where Breuer touled the Phoenix case:

Q. And during meetings \',!ith "Mr. Breuer, did this subject come up?
A. I mean, I was in a meeting, it was a country team meeting, or itmight have been a law enforcement team meeting ... Ambassador, Mr. Breuer was there, Darren was there, Mr. Breuer . . . the Ambassador was saying hey, you know what ... we need a big win we need some positive, some positive [firearms trafficking] cases. And Lanny Breuer says, yeah, there is a good case, there is a good case out of Phoenix. And that is all he said. ***

Q. But do you remember the specific incident with the Ambassador talking about thc success stories?
A. Right.

Q. And that is when Breuer mentioned this large case in Phoenix,?
A. Yeah. He said we got, there is a good case out of Phoenix.

Q. And is it your impression that the case he was referring to is what now what you now know to be Fast and Furious?
A. Yeah, when he said, I thought, oh, okay ... he knows. He knows about this case.lI5

The Department of Justice, and more specifically, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, clearly knew about Operation Fast and Furious. Further, the Department of Justice's Office of Enforcement Operations (OEO) approved numerous of the wiretap applications in this case. These applications were signed on behalf of Assistant Attorney General Breuer in the spring of 20 10. Instead of stemming the flow of firearms to Mexico, Operation Fast and Furious arguably contributed to an increase in weapons and violence. J 16

Page #223 AN ORGANIZED CRIME DRUG ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE (0CDETF) WIRETAP CASE Operation Fast and Furious got its name when it became an official Department of Justice Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) Strike Force case. The OCDETF designation resulted in funding for Fast and Furious from the Justice Department’s headquarters in Washington, D.C. The Strike Force designation meant that it would not be run by ATF, but would instead create a multi-agency task force led by the U.S. Attorney’s Office. The designation also meant that sophisticated law enforcement techniques such as the use of federal wire intercepts, or wiretaps, would be employed. Federal wiretaps are governed by Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act, and are sometimes referred to as ‘‘T– IIIs.’’

The use of federal wire intercepts requires a significant amount of case-related information to be sent to senior Department officials for review and approval. All applications for federal wiretaps are authorized under the authority of the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division. In practice, a top deputy for the Assistant Attorney General has final sign-off authority before the application is submitted to a federal judge for approval. This deputy must ensure that the wiretap application meets statutory requirements and Justice Department policy. The approval process includes a certification that the wiretap is necessary because other investigative techniques have been insufficient. Therefore, making such a judgment requires a review of operational tactics. Since gunwalking was an investigative technique utilized in Fast and Furious, then either top deputies in the Criminal Division knew about the tactics employed as part of their effort to establish legal sufficiency for the application, or they approved the wiretap applications in a manner inconsistent with Department policies.

From the beginning, ATF was transparent about its strategy. An internal ATF briefing paper used in preparation for the OCDETF application process explained as much: Currently our strategy is to allow the transfer of firearms to continue to take place, albeit at a much slower pace, in order to further the investigation and allow for the identification of co-conspirators who would continue to operate and illegally traffic firearms to Mexican DTOs which are perpetrating armed violence along the Southwest Border. The ultimate goal is to secure a Federal T– III audio intercept to identify and prosecute all co-conspirators of the DTO. . . .

Tracking the illegally-purchased guns after they left the premises of Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) would allow ATF and federal prosecutors to build a bigger case, one aimed at dismantling what was believed to be a complex firearms trafficking network. The task force failed, however, to track the firearms. Instead, according to the testimony of ATF agents, their supervisors ordered them to break off surveillance shortly after the guns left the gun stores or were transferred to unknown third parties. Many of the firearms purchased were next seen at crime scenes on both sides of the border.

Note: I have left out what was inserted in the CR by Clyburn in rebuttal. It was just a bunch of crap trying to obfuscate matters.

20 posted on 06/29/2012 12:51:49 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I read that the same way... Issa was secretly wiretaping someone regarding gunwalking.

If I was casually scanning the news headlines, I’d think Issa did something wrong....


21 posted on 06/29/2012 12:58:47 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Red Steel

22 posted on 06/29/2012 1:03:32 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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Fox News just reported that DOJ will not prosecute Holder for contempt.


You can bet the next GOP US AG will!!!


23 posted on 06/29/2012 1:07:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Red Steel

What do we have on this bastard - there are phone calls that have been made with El Chapo himself? Just guessing but it would not surprise me in the least.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 1:09:54 PM PDT by bergmeid (Leftism kills babies and economies. Leftism is truly a DEAD END.)
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To: Revel

Hannity is interviewing Issa right NOW


25 posted on 06/29/2012 1:11:35 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: RedMDer

drip....drip....drip....drip.
Betcha Issa has a whole lot more stuff he can put
into the Congressional Record.


26 posted on 06/29/2012 1:13:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Steel

How is it with every article about this, Issa who it seems is in charge of this investigation is being stonewalled by Cummings,,and it’s Cummings who always seems to know more about the “secret” stuff than Issa..? How did that happen?


27 posted on 06/29/2012 1:14:54 PM PDT by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; RedMDer

If they act too soon 0 will just pardon him.


28 posted on 06/29/2012 1:18:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yelp...The document dropped was just a shot across the bow.....Sinking the ship will come later.


29 posted on 06/29/2012 1:20:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think so too. He has the rat just about cornered.


30 posted on 06/29/2012 1:22:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Covenantor
He had indicated that he would give them a couple of weeks if they did nothing, but that if they announced they would not prosecute, that he would move forward.

So, now, I expect he will move forward pretty quickly, maynbe even starting during the holiday week next week.

The sooner the better.

They will get a good judge who will demand the documents...and then it will get ratcheted up through the process to the Supreme Court...but probably still after the election.

No problem there though, it will be kept alive during the lead up to the election and the smell of corruption will continue to fill the air.

I would actually rather see it happen after Obama is defeated and out of office. Then get the files, find the smoking gun, and send Holder to prison after his buddy Obama can no longer pardon him. We may get lucky and pull Obama into the dragnet too.

31 posted on 06/29/2012 1:29:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: RedMDer

I still think the CBC walkout was for more than just ‘racial solidarity’. I think Issa has the goods on a big chunk of the CBC being in on this and their performance was a hint that they will all stand together and “race” to the finish.

Anyone but me think they have a piece of the drug action in their districts? Perfect cover after having bitched for years about the CIA drug schemes.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 1:30:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jeff Head

I gotta giggle at your optimism.


33 posted on 06/29/2012 1:30:42 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Jeff Head

There’s a problem Jeff.

There is a MADD doctrine between the parties preventing prosecution of prior admins. We get him now or never.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 1:34:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Red Steel

“Eric Holder and Obama are going to get WaterGated. :-)”

Perhaps we get Dick Chaney to arrange some water-boarding for these two pieces of evil $hit...make them both talk up a storm. And we call their confessions free speech, no coercion...let’s find out which one can be the most talkative, and who can do the most finger-pointing.


35 posted on 06/29/2012 1:36:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Carry_Okie
This program went exactly as designed, until they were caught.

Yep.

And as always with the left, the guilt is not in the doing, but in the getting caught.

36 posted on 06/29/2012 1:39:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: redgolum
Who will prosecute him?

A few things come to mind.

Holder is impeached and then prosecuted for his crime. A special prosecutor appointed by Congress. Romney's DOJ next year brings charges after Obama and Holder are get kicked out of office. Criminal charges don't end because of an election. Quo Warranto action brought against Holder.

Not to mention the automatic hate crime charge for daring to prosecute Holder.

We all know this is all bogus bunk unless you're a delusional watcher of MSLSD-NBC. I would if I could - not a pansy unlike the rest of the crowd. I guess someone else in power has got balls too - somewhere.

37 posted on 06/29/2012 1:47:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Norm Lenhart
There is a MADD doctrine between the parties preventing prosecution of prior admins. We get him now or never.

I think this one crosses the line.

38 posted on 06/29/2012 1:49:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Just imagine the stuff in the rest of the documents they refuse to release...


39 posted on 06/29/2012 1:52:18 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: Red Steel

I 100% agree. If it was me I’d nail him to the wall and throw away the key. But with the absolute pussies in the GOP, they will go with “Well we can’t because next time one of us will go to prison”.

Believe me. I want them to do the right and legal thing. There are WAY too many dead people because of their liberal ideology (gun control). But I have no faith in their integrity.


40 posted on 06/29/2012 2:01:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Red Steel

Truth doesn’t matter. Everyone is racist. If you are white or white-hispanic, that is.


41 posted on 06/29/2012 2:02:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Repeat ping. Great info in Post #20 by bcsco. Worth a look.


42 posted on 06/29/2012 2:11:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list


43 posted on 06/29/2012 2:42:09 PM PDT by Nachum (http://www.houstongalvestonlawyer.com/blog/2010/05/justThe complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Red Steel
Sen. Issa and Grassley are pushing this. Grassley needed a good prod to start, but Issa has been working this sense the start.

My point is look at the paper trail. The head of the committee had the documents, but refused to do much with them. Issa had to do the end around, which may end up hurting the agents who leaked the information. Not to mention payback to Issa or someone else.

At the end of the day, the question is what is the next step? Issa and Grassley have little to no prosecution powers, and Romney is pretty anti gun himself.

44 posted on 06/29/2012 2:44:36 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Maybe. But the tribal instinct is very, very strong.

The rest of the CBC may hate Holder, but he is one of “theirs” on they will fight for him.

And lets be honest. If the GOP starts going after the drug trade that is connected to members of the CBC, expect attacks on the sweetheart deals the average GOP senator makes that aren’t quite on the up and up. Just about everyone is on the take for something, which is why you don’t see many congressmen prosecuted.

You don’t throw grenades in a dynamite factory.


45 posted on 06/29/2012 2:48:49 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

We need to elect people who will simply do what is right and forget all the back room deals and all of the political “understandings.”

If someone is guilty of felonious actions like this man is, where American agents have died (two we know of and I bet there are more) and hundreds of civilians in Mexico...then forget the damnable “understandings” and put their sorry backsides in prison where they belong.

No “Get out of Jail Free,” card because you’re a Pol and you don’t want our guys prosecuted. If our guys do the same thing...then they aren’t “our” guys any longer. If you are a felon, you are a felon, and deserving of equal treatment under the law just like you or I would be.

Anyhow, that’s how I see and exactly what I would do if I were in a position to.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


46 posted on 06/29/2012 3:10:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: conservativebabe
Go ahead and giggle I guess...but it sure isn't a laughing matter. People are dead and this felonious bastard cannot be let off the hook.

We need people who will do what is right and damn the political consequences. I think Issa will.

See my post 46.

47 posted on 06/29/2012 3:13:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MarkL
I'd be willing to bet he knows where ALL the bodies are buried in the entire dem plantation, including the Clinton's.

That kind of 'dirt' can get a man killed, don'tchaknow? The more you know the greater the odds that someone, somewhere will have you 'caulked' just in case you should become an embarrassment, knowwhatImean?

Regards,
GtG

48 posted on 06/29/2012 3:24:51 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: sierrahome

If he lives that long.... just saying.


49 posted on 06/29/2012 3:25:36 PM PDT by saturn
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Yeah, that’s the problem. Thanks Red Steel.


50 posted on 06/29/2012 3:33:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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