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Only Voters Can Save America Now: Washington Has Broken With the Concept of Self-Governance
Washington Times ^ | 6/29/2012 | Dr. Milton R. Wolf

Posted on 06/29/2012 1:19:16 PM PDT by mojito

The Supreme Court’s Obamacare ruling on Thursday cuts right to the very fabric of the relationship between a once-limited government and a once-free citizen, but the eternal struggle between liberty and tyranny endures. It is a beginning, not an end.

As enormously important as the high court’s Obamacare ruling is - and it’s huge - it’s not the final word. The legal and political dust has not yet settled, and it will take some time for the unpredictable ripples to form the powerful waves of history. Yet, history waits for no man, so we begin by asking: What now? First, we mourn. We mourn that a nation built on the principle of limited government has grown the largest government in the history of humankind. We mourn that our Supreme Court rewrote Obamacare into Obamatax to allow for the individual mandate. We mourn that once again we read the lips of a president who promised he would not raise our taxes but did so anyway. We mourn that Washington no longer rules with the consent of the governed.

But this mourning, as appropriate as it is, must be short-lived. This struggle for our liberty, this struggle to abide by the principles of our founding begins anew. We can no longer trust that Washington will save the great experiment of self-governance that is the United States of America. Just as it has always been, the fate of our republic rests in the hands of the voters.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloodoftyrants; bloodogtyrants; democrats; govtabuse; obama; obamacare; robertscare; tyranny
Really, CJ Roberts did us all a favor. He announced in no uncertain terms that Washington is now a corrupt and cynical tyranny and that we should all just get used to it. The old Constitution is dead, and the new Constitution is whatever Washington says it is.

I used to think that the government was part of my country. Now I know that that government is an alien criminal enterprise bent on destroying my country.

Thank you for clarifying that for me, CJ Roberts. Thank you very much. And may you go straight to h@ll.

1 posted on 06/29/2012 1:19:25 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

2 posted on 06/29/2012 1:26:09 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: mojito

Don’t count on American voters fixing this. The entertainment addled, bread-and-circuses voters gave us Obama in the first place. They used to be a minority, but now a majority can be convinced that voting for socialism is a good thing.


3 posted on 06/29/2012 1:30:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: mojito
The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may the Lord bless you and keep you.

May it be said, democrats, muslims, and communists, are not our countrymen, may their chains rest lightly upon them as they crouch at the feet of the master who feeds.

4 posted on 06/29/2012 1:38:45 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: mojito
Only Voters Can Save America Now: Washington Has Broken With the Concept of Self-Governance

Nope.

This country does NOT have a political problem; but a spiritual one.

Politics will NOT 'fix' what's wrong with America.


If my people....

Then I will heal their land.

5 posted on 06/29/2012 1:40:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mojito

Since the government is lawless, there is no reason to believe elections will not also be lawless.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 1:46:43 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: PGR88
Don’t count on American voters fixing this.

We shall see.

It is up to us.

The time is now.

7 posted on 06/29/2012 1:52:16 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: mojito

The voters are how we got into this mess. I don’t trust them because there are too many idiots out there that want everything for free.


8 posted on 06/29/2012 1:52:40 PM PDT by coconut47
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To: Grampa Dave

Goodbye you scum bag socialist!....November move a little faster!


9 posted on 06/29/2012 1:53:24 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: mojito

We can begin to turn this around on November 6th.

Or else not.

It is up to us.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 1:53:41 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: coconut47
The voters are how we got into this mess. I don’t trust them because there are too many idiots out there that want everything for free.

What do you propose instead?

11 posted on 06/29/2012 1:54:48 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: mojito
And if the ballot box doesn't work, we move to the cartridge box:

http://modernmilitiamovement.com/groups

12 posted on 06/29/2012 1:58:49 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: mojito

Yes. CJ Arnold did us a favor and this should be taken for what it is: a win. We finally have the SCOTUS confirm what so many of us have feared, the game is completely rigged. It’s an elaborate game of three card monte. If we want to win we’ll need to either change the rules or pick up our marbles and leave. Or both.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 1:59:49 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Thank you Chief Justice Arnold!)
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To: PGR88; All
I understand where you're coming from..... BUT.... Let's not forget the 2010 Midterms. The Tea Party, and millions of other pissed off Americans, sent a message, loud and clear to Washington. Many politicians paid the price for their support of ObamaCare, but apparently some of them still did not get the message. Our message will be louder this time. They have awakened a sleeping giant and they will pay for it at the polls in November. The Tea Party will rise again. As Rush said: When Tea is boiled, it only gets stronger. The American people get to vote on B. Hussein Obama, the SCOTUS Ruling, and Judge Roberts Health Care Plan for America, on November 6, 2012.
TEA PARTY 2012 BATTLE CRY: “On June 28, 2012, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On November 6, 2012, we’re going to shove it up their ass.”
14 posted on 06/29/2012 2:06:14 PM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: mojito
Thanks. Dr. Wolf has said it well. A quick and decisive movement must result from yesterday to "enlighten the People," as the Founders intended purpose for education was meant to do. Millions already understand that the freedom and light of liberty their ancestors left for the entire world are being destroyed, and yesterday provides both impetus and an opportunity for rectifying that wrong.

From a Bicentennial of the Constitution volume comes the following excerpt:

"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."

"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." - (End of excerpt)

Romney and the Republican had better get on board quickly with providing voters a sharp and distinct set of IDEAS of LIBERTY, and how those ideas contrast with Obama and the Dem's COUNTERFEIT ideas of SLAVERY TO GOVERNMENT AND LOSS OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM.

The "jobs" argument is the one the Dems want, because it keeps attention off the underlying cause of job loss, which is loss of individual freedom under a cadre of power-hungry political hacks.

15 posted on 06/29/2012 2:30:26 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: mojito

Very well said, Mojito. I’m about at the point where I might surrender my law license, because I can really no longer see any point in representing what passes for “law” now.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 2:35:17 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: mojito
Really, CJ Roberts did us all a favor. He announced in no uncertain terms that Washington is now a corrupt and cynical tyranny and that we should all just get used to it. The old Constitution is dead, and the new Constitution is whatever Washington says it is.

You've got it. This is the bedrock of Hitler's dominion. He first got his legislators to make law, got the highest courts to validate the law, then he could issue orders upholding the law which he wanted made.

An example (that applies here, inescapably): Untermenschen (subhumans) -- fit to be eliminated so as not to taint the Aryan gene pool.

Defined by law, judged by law, and terminated by law.

Philosophically, the Air Force sees Christianity a sublevel that taints pure intellect. Not allowed on base.

Charles Evans Hughes: The law is what we say it is. Same for Roberts. A sellout to power, not purity.

17 posted on 06/29/2012 2:52:19 PM PDT by imardmd1 (...Let such as love Thy salvation say continually,"The LORD be magnified!" Ps. 40:16b)
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To: mojito

Finally a positive spin on John Roberts I can get behind. Thanks Mojito


18 posted on 06/29/2012 2:53:59 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: loveliberty2

BRAVO!!!! I love your post so much I’m going to copy it again here - it bears repeating!!!!! http://www.face.net/
Teach your children, your grandchildren, your neighbors, what liberty means and the spiritual foundation for liberty!!


Thanks. Dr. Wolf has said it well. A quick and decisive movement must result from yesterday to “enlighten the People,” as the Founders intended purpose for education was meant to do. Millions already understand that the freedom and light of liberty their ancestors left for the entire world are being destroyed, and yesterday provides both impetus and an opportunity for rectifying that wrong.
From a Bicentennial of the Constitution volume comes the following excerpt:

“It was John Adams who said: “The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people.” Clearly, the Founders’ passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

“The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, “How long will the American republic endure?” Lowell replied: “As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant.”

“Herein lies the answer to the question, “Will the Experiment Succeed?”

“It can and will succeed IF the motivating “principle or passion in the minds of the people” is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based.” - (End of excerpt)

Romney and the Republican had better get on board quickly with providing voters a sharp and distinct set of IDEAS of LIBERTY, and how those ideas contrast with Obama and the Dem’s COUNTERFEIT ideas of SLAVERY TO GOVERNMENT AND LOSS OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM.

The “jobs” argument is the one the Dems want, because it keeps attention off the underlying cause of job loss, which is loss of individual freedom under a cadre of power-hungry political hacks.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 3:19:00 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: mojito

The constitution is dead so there is no Republic anymore. The constitution is the agreement that brought the States together to make the USA. Both parties and all three branches of the government killed it. They have no more authority under the constitution.

So, we have no country anymore. We don’t have any legitimate National athorities which were established by the costitution. Anything we do in obedience to the illegimate government in DC is out of fear not out of moral authority or patriotism.

Everyone who swears an oath to the constitution is lying. There is no constitutional government to swear to. There is no Bill of Rights to protect. Swear an oath to the Congressional Black Caucus, porn stars, an oak tree or a Black dog or whatever you consider yourself in service to. It doesn’t matter, just don’t lie that you are serving our constitutional Republic.


20 posted on 06/29/2012 3:19:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

This has become a time for civil disobedence. As you have rightly have said, those in power will not obey, so then no obedence in turn.


21 posted on 06/29/2012 3:23:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Essentially correct, those who had formally sworn an oath to the Constitution are not absolved by virtue of the existence failure of the same as a Constitution.

That being said your State Constitution being independently derived is still very much in force.


22 posted on 06/29/2012 3:28:28 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Grampa Dave

Obama thinks he is playing Simon Says.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 3:55:33 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: coconut47

Look at some of the people sitting around in an emergency room these days.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 3:57:25 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: no dems

Let’s not forget the 2010 Midterms.


Boehner crying off and on for two years.
Romney as our Presidential choice.
ObamaCare is still alive.
Obama is still going full bore.
I guess we sure showed them!


25 posted on 06/29/2012 4:05:00 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: mojito

I don’t know if you realized it or not, but it was voters that put the bastards in office to begin with. Then said bastards tell said voters,”Keep me in office and I will take care of you”. It was done.Now the parasites outnumber the producers. I know, I know,according to some, there are more “conservatives” than any other group. If they are more Conservatives than any other group,why are in the damn mess that we are in?


26 posted on 06/29/2012 4:10:53 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
I don’t know if you realized it or not, but it was voters that put the bastards in office to begin with.

It goes back MUCH farther than that...





Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

27 posted on 06/29/2012 4:35:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sport
...why are in the damn mess that we are in?

Even Conservatives would rather be praised into Hell;
than rebuked into Heaven.

28 posted on 06/29/2012 4:36:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: loveliberty2
Our nation has suffered from too much democracy, i.e. legislative tyranny in times past.

During the Critical Period between the Revolutionary War and the Constitution, our young republics ran wild with popular, democratic legislatures. While the people had not yet figured out how to legally steal from their neighbors outright, they got their legislators to pass laws that screwed creditors, inflated money, enacted ex-post facto laws, and generally impaired contracts to favor debtors. These faults were corrected in the Constitution so often derided at this forum.

Similarly, we suffer today from too much democracy. For 99 years the Senate has not served as the lid on the House of Representatives it was designed to be. No, our Senators are vote grubbers like the Reps, only worse, because they have six year terms and imagine themselves minor gods.

Our Framers got it right in 1787 and the 16th, 17th amendments have been our undoing. The American Revolution is dead.

29 posted on 06/29/2012 4:38:27 PM PDT by Jacquerie (The American Revolution is dead.)
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This has never been a democracy, This is a Republic and we are allowing it to slip away because good men do nothing.

Take these commies and muslims to the wood shed and explain what they are messing with!

The only answer to clear the air.....


30 posted on 06/29/2012 4:49:47 PM PDT by tiger63
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To: imardmd1
Yup Hoch and Binding wrote the brief that allowed the German Supreme Court to rule that the Holocaust was legal and constitutional.

Here we got Ginsburg and Roberts to validate a bill which will lead to some disturbingly similar consequences, once the bureaucracy is gassed up and running.

31 posted on 06/29/2012 4:57:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: tiger63

The States were independent republics under the Confederation. Their popular Assemblies and weak governors during the Critical Period made the notion of republican government almost farcical. They were far closer to unlimited democracies than to republics subject to constitutional limitations.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie (The American Revolution is dead.)
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To: Jacquerie; tiger63; All
Jacquerie, you are correct about the matter of "democracy" and the erosion of constitutional safeguards for liberty.

As we've discussed before on this Forum, John Quincy Adams, who was a child when the Declaration was adopted, 19 when the Constitution was framed, and served in various posts in the new government, including as President, was asked to deliver the "Jubilee" Address in 1839 in New York City. For readers who may not know about it, that complete work can be read here. In it, JQA traces the ideas and history of the nation to that date and discusses the ideas of "democracy" and "republic," as they apply to the government chosen by the Framers. These are his concluding remarks:

". . . the Constitution as construed by Washington, still proved an effective government for the country.

"And such it has still proved, through every successive change of administration it has undergone. Of these, it becomes not me to speak in detail. Nor were it possible, without too great a trespass upon your time. The example of Washington, of retiring from the Presidency after a double term of four years, was followed by Mr. Jefferson, against the urgent solicitations of several state Legislatures. This second example of voluntary self- chastened ambition, by the decided approbation of public opinion, has been held obligatory upon their successors, and has become a tacit subsidiary Constitutional law. If not entirely satisfactory to the nation, it is rather by its admitting one re-election, than by its interdicting a second. Every change of a President of the United States, has exhibited some variety of policy from that of his predecessor. In more than one case, the change has extended to political and even to moral principle; but the policy of the country has been fashioned far more by the influences of public opinion, and the prevailing humors in the two Houses of Congress, than by the judgment, the will, or the principles of the President of the United States. The President himself is no more than a representative of public opinion at the time of his election; and as public opinion is subject to great and frequent fluctuations, he must accommodate his policy to them; or the people will speedily give him a successor; or either House of Congress will effectually control his power. It is thus, and in no other sense that the Constitution of the United States is democratic - for the government of our country, instead of a Democracy the most simple, is the most complicated government on the face of the globe. From the immense extent of our territory, the difference of manners, habits, opinions, and above all, the clashing interests of the North, South, East, and West, public opinion formed by the combination of numerous aggregates, becomes itself a problem of compound arithmetic, which nothing but the result of the popular elections can solve.

"It has been my purpose, Fellow-Citizens, in this discourse to show:-

"And now the future is all before us, and Providence our guide.

"When the children of Israel, after forty years of wanderings in the wilderness, were about to enter upon the promised land, their leader, Moses, who was not permitted to cross the Jordan with them, just before his removal from among them, commanded that when the Lord their God should have brought them into the land, they should put the curse upon Mount Ebal, and the blessing upon Mount Gerizim. This injunction was faithfully fulfilled by his successor Joshua. Immediately after they had taken possession of the land, Joshua built an altar to the Lord, of whole stones, upon Mount Ebal. And there he wrote upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he had written in the presence of the children of Israel: and all Israel, and their elders and officers, and their judges, stood on the two sides of the ark of the covenant, home by the priests and Levites, six tribes over against Mount Gerizim, and six over against Mount Ebal. And he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that was written in the book of the law.

"Fellow-citizens, the ark of your covenant is the Declaration of independence. Your Mount Ebal, is the confederacy of separate state sovereignties, and your Mount Gerizim is the Constitution of the United States. In that scene of tremendous and awful solemnity, narrated in the Holy Scriptures, there is not a curse pronounced against the people, upon Mount Ebal, not a blessing promised them upon Mount Gerizim, which your posterity may not suffer or enjoy, from your and their adherence to, or departure from, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, practically interwoven in the Constitution of the United States. Lay up these principles, then, in your hearts, and in your souls - bind them for signs upon your hands, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes - teach them to your children, speaking of them when sitting in your houses, when walking by the way, when lying down and when rising up - write them upon the doorplates of your houses, and upon your gates - cling to them as to the issues of life - adhere to them as to the cords of your eternal salvation. So may your children's children at the next return of this day of jubilee, after a full century of experience under your national Constitution, celebrate it again in the full enjoyment of all the blessings recognized by you in the commemoration of this day, and of all the blessings promised to the children of Israel upon Mount Gerizim, as the reward of obedience to the law of God."

So said John Quincy Adams.

The ideas underlying our Constitution are not dead, unless we allow them to die! They are the enduring ideas which originate with the Creator, and if Divine Providence was present at this nation's founding and has an ongoing purpose for America's continued existence, then we owe it to Providence and the brave authors of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution to promote and preserve those ideas for future generations.

33 posted on 06/29/2012 6:31:54 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: boxlunch

Thanks. See my later post to Jacquerie.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 6:33:17 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
"The ideas underlying our Constitution are not dead, unless we allow them to die!"

Well said! Agree. I finally found a positive note to end the night with.

1961 - Ronald Reagan speaks out on Socialized Medicine - Audio

"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it.”
And

Replace some of the names cited and add a few zeros behind the stated stats, and this 1964 speech could be delivered today with even more relevancy:

"A Time for Choosing" by Ronald Reagan

35 posted on 06/29/2012 7:59:56 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: loveliberty2

THANKS! for this reply!!


36 posted on 06/30/2012 4:41:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; uncommonsense; All
Thanks to both of you for your responses!

We must remember that the Source for the ideas underlying our Declaration of Independence and Constitution's limits on the power of those we entrust with power in government remains unchanged; therefore, the ideas essential to liberty are unchanged.

Only the understanding of the people has changed.

Back in March, one of my posts was the following:

"Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it." - John Adams, Letter to Abigail Adams, 1777

What an awesome responsibility the Justices of 2012 have to Adams and the other Framers of America's Constitution "make good use" of the opportunity they have now to "preserve" freedom for future generations!

If they "do not," then history will record their action as a betrayal of the trust of all the brave men and women who have been willing to sacrifice everything for freedom's cause--from 1776 to now.

May they feel the heavy cloak of responsibility they bear for the freedom of those future generations, and may their opinions recall those ideas of individual liberty so beautifully articulated by the Framers of the Constitution they are sworn to uphold.

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

In reading the dissenting opinions of this week's rulings, one realizes that such understanding is alive in the minds of some justices. We must not tolerate the appointment of any more members of the Court who will "squeeze" new meanings which sacrifice the liberty of future generations for momentary illusions about the role of government.

37 posted on 06/30/2012 8:12:12 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
Only the understanding of the people has changed.

Indeed!

My people perish from lack of knowledge...

38 posted on 06/30/2012 8:24:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: loveliberty2

I sent the JQA speech to my email list.


39 posted on 06/30/2012 8:24:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: loveliberty2

I sent the JQA speech to my email list.

(Now if anyone has the attention span to actually READ it; without finding it squeezed on Twitter or LIKED on FaceBook is another thing altogether!)


40 posted on 06/30/2012 8:26:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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