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No Obamacare for Muslims (EXEMPT!!!!)
LibertyAndPride ^

Posted on 06/29/2012 2:52:45 PM PDT by djf

The new Obamacare legislation that was forced on unwilling Americans this week specifically mandates that we all purchase health insurance. That is, unless you don’t believe in that sort of thing. That’s right, the current health care bill contains a clause which exempts certain individuals form the requirements and penalties set forth in it.

” EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information:

In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.”

Senate Bill, H.R. 3590, pages 273-274

There are several reasons why an individual could claim exemption, being a member of a religion that does not believe in insurance is one of them. Islam is one of those religions. Muslims believe that health insurance is “haraam”, or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling. This belief excludes them from any of the requirements, mandates, or penalties set forth in the bill. Other excluded groups include Amish, American Indians, and Christian Scientists.

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1 posted on 06/29/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by djf
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To: djf

I’m headed to the gun shop. Anybody need anything?


2 posted on 06/29/2012 2:53:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: djf

There is a list of about 100 different Groups that are exempt, and growing. It has been posted on here.


3 posted on 06/29/2012 2:56:29 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: djf
Still trying to figure out how McDonald's got an exemption
4 posted on 06/29/2012 2:57:02 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: djf

And that is a reason why there will be lawsuits aplenty against this statute.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 2:58:58 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: djf

I am an Indian.

My grandfather had high cheekbones.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 2:59:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: mware

You haven’t noticed McDonald’s big marketing push towards the “black community” lately? And they probably have given him millions in campaign contributions.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 3:01:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: NoLibZone
I am an Indian. My grandfather had high cheekbones.

I am an Indian too. My father has an extensive kachina doll and moccasin collection.

8 posted on 06/29/2012 3:02:04 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: djf

I once saw a South Park episode about Scientology — I am exempt.


9 posted on 06/29/2012 3:02:15 PM PDT by twister881
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To: NoLibZone

Works for Elizabeth Warren, should work for us, too.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 3:02:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: djf

I am against paying for abortions or sex change operations on religious grounds as a Catholic. If I get my priest to use the word “haaram” in my application will I be exempted?


11 posted on 06/29/2012 3:03:19 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m an American. And I’m a native of this country. That makes me a native American, right? So I’m exempt.


12 posted on 06/29/2012 3:04:09 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: djf

A tax based upon RELIGION.

What is next? A tax based upon COLOR?

And party affiliation?

How about books read?


13 posted on 06/29/2012 3:04:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SERKIT

Exempted right into the Konzentrationslager.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 3:04:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Lizavetta

>>I am an Indian. My grandfather had high cheekbones.

I am an Indian too. My father has an extensive kachina doll and moccasin collection. <<

I, too, am Indian. I can’t grow a beard for a damn...


15 posted on 06/29/2012 3:05:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: djf

How can our government give favor to Muslims, and not permit other religions the equal treatment.

The government is not allowed to establish a favored religion.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 3:06:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ILLEGALS are also exempt—they still get the free stuff too


17 posted on 06/29/2012 3:06:28 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: djf
Muslims believe that health insurance is “haraam”, or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling.

Christians believe that funding or supporting abortion in any way, shape or form is “haraam”, or forbidden; because they liken the act of ending the unborn child's life to murder.

If we could only stand in one accord for one moment in time...

18 posted on 06/29/2012 3:06:28 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: djf

Akbar whatever. I’m exempt.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 3:06:58 PM PDT by Starstruck
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To: Diogenesis

Not a tax on RELIGION...

A tax on THE WRONG RELIGIONS!!!


20 posted on 06/29/2012 3:10:00 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I need another thousand rounds of .45 Long Colt


21 posted on 06/29/2012 3:10:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: All

eTiQa
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22 posted on 06/29/2012 3:10:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: djf

I have no problem with their exemption as long as they pay cash up front for any medical services they need.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 3:11:00 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Starstruck

My name is Al-gore, and I worship Gaia, cheeseburgers, and masseuses — I’m exempt.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 3:11:13 PM PDT by twister881
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To: NoLibZone

“I am an Indian.

My grandfather had high cheekbones.”

I’ve got a recipe for crab dip with tomato mayonaise - can I get an exemption?


25 posted on 06/29/2012 3:11:43 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: 5thGenTexan

Muslims also believe that funding or supporting abortion in any way, shape or form is “haraam”, or forbidden” except in extraordinary circumstances.

And Muslims are exempt from Deathcare.

Get it? Christians get to kill their young and MUST PAY for any others who are on Deathcare to ALSO KILL their young.

So, islam gets to have infidels kill themselves. After all, little babies aren’t beheaded literally, just injected with poison in their brains or having their neck severed, right?

How easy is that? /cold-blood


26 posted on 06/29/2012 3:17:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: djf

Just Call me Achmed!


27 posted on 06/29/2012 3:18:23 PM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: NoLibZone
I am an Indian.

My grandfather had high cheekbones.

Me too, whiteman. I not pay much wampum for bullshit!

I go back to the rez now to talk to medicine man...and keep much powder dry.

FMCDH(BITS)

28 posted on 06/29/2012 3:19:52 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: djf

and yet Catholic organizations are forced to purchase abortion insurance

Maybe the Pope needs to declare abortion “haraam”


29 posted on 06/29/2012 3:20:14 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: djf

This isn’t true.

There is no monolithic “Islam” in the US or anywhere else in the world.

While some small sects might qualify, to do so they must simultaneously gain a religious exemption from Social Security, and no Muslim sect in the US has done so already, and no sect is in the process of doing so AFAIK.

It is possible for very strict Islamic sects to qualify for exemptions, none have done so to date.

To put it in perspective, saying “No Obamacare for Muslims (EXEMPT!!!!)” because a small sect of Muslims are exempt is equivalent to saying No Obamacare for Christians (EXEMPT!!!!) because the Christian Scientists Sect is exempt.


30 posted on 06/29/2012 3:20:14 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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I think SS is the same way, or at least I'm pretty sure the Amish and other organized religions with objections to commercial insurance are exempt from Social Security (if they existed prior to some arbitrary date).

So nice to be respected because you claim to be a member of an organized religion, rather than simply holding some silly principles.
31 posted on 06/29/2012 3:21:19 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’re ging to need a bigger truck. Just for my order ;-)


32 posted on 06/29/2012 3:30:12 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: mware

For some brands of “fast food,”mayberday, maybe Obamacare’s death panels are redundant?


33 posted on 06/29/2012 3:30:49 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why does anyone eat that crap? I don’t do fast food often(once every couple of years) but when I do It’s never one of the big three. I haven’t had McDonalds in over twenty years


34 posted on 06/29/2012 3:34:47 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Diogenesis

What is next? A tax based upon COLOR?

Bring back the poll tax, after all it’s only a tax


35 posted on 06/29/2012 3:34:58 PM PDT by Figment
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To: djf

Great, just claim to be a Mooselimb and we’ll all be exempt.


36 posted on 06/29/2012 3:36:00 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: djf

Sorry, no one is exempt from a TAX.


37 posted on 06/29/2012 3:37:03 PM PDT by madison10 (I can FEEL November from here...)
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To: djf

I hang Indian corn on my door in the Autumn. That qualifies, doesn’t it?

How about playing an Indian an a 3rd grade play on Thanksgiving?


38 posted on 06/29/2012 3:37:29 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: djf

Obamacare -— one big scheme to force America to convert to -islamism ? (Otherwise, prepare to pay obamacare’s 21 new taxes — and face obamacare’s “death panels”). Sorry about that, just a bad dream


39 posted on 06/29/2012 3:41:33 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: SueRae

I feel a little bit of Amish coming on.


40 posted on 06/29/2012 3:42:27 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: djf

Obamacare -— one big scheme to force America to convert to -islamism ? (Otherwise, prepare to pay obamacare’s 21 new taxes — and face obamacare’s “death panels”). Sorry about that, just a bad dream induced by my Obamacare-exempted “fast food” hamburger yesterday. Pay this no mind.


41 posted on 06/29/2012 3:42:56 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Arbeit Macht Frei


42 posted on 06/29/2012 3:43:03 PM PDT by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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To: djf

Lemme get this straight. A library which puts a nativity scene on its front lawn is a “law regarding the establishment of religion” but a Federal statute that specificlly gives certain benefits based solely on religion and denied to other religions isn’t? Why should we have any moral obligation to obey such a corrput and repressive government?


43 posted on 06/29/2012 3:47:24 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Figment

Hardees is 100% Angus beef, even their “cheap” burgers. I head to Whataburger for their Justaburger w/onions, pickles and mustard when I’m near one. Have a Popeye’s Chicken nearby so go there once in awhile. Did you know that Wendy’s took over the #2 spot several years ago so that BurgerKing is now in third place of burger joints?


44 posted on 06/29/2012 3:49:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: pepperdog

ping


45 posted on 06/29/2012 4:00:34 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: twister881
you can start your own religion and you can get a reverend certificate online somewhere I'm told...

not that I need an exemption, for now anyway, but I'll do almost anything to thwart this farce...

46 posted on 06/29/2012 4:34:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: djf

So if we start a muslim cult called Don’t Tread on Me, Sandrats, we can all join and earn an exemption.

Cool. I want to run a muslim dating site where we exchange grenades and RPGs.


47 posted on 06/29/2012 4:39:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Exempted right into the Konzentrationslager.

If Barry gets a second term, which year will the Konzentrationslagers open? I'm trying to figure out my ultimate demise.

48 posted on 06/29/2012 4:41:55 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SERKIT

Trying to reserve the better gruel and nicer KZ-Baracken?


49 posted on 06/29/2012 4:48:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After touring Dauchau last Summer - based on the last few months of the Soetoro Regime - I feel like us Conservatives are already close to the gate with the RINOs saying everything will work out fine.


50 posted on 06/29/2012 4:57:38 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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