Posted on 06/29/2012 4:01:22 PM PDT by rpage3
First, an apology for the millionth vanity here...
It has become clear to me that what Justice Roberts has done is so shameful and such an outright trampling on our constitution and theft of our liberty that he should be impeached and be removed from office. In an otherwise sane world where this document still meant something, he would be impeached and if the Republicans have any spine they'd do it. This, "cut off your nose to spite your face" wizardy (that is, trample the constitution in order to save the reputation of the court) is the last straw in what has been an enduring attack on our freedom. Enough; draw the damn line here and now.
If the opinions of Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito and even Kennedy could not sway Justice Roberts in a case which has such tremendous implications for our country; then, there is clearly no hope for the man; he cannot be reformed and he must go.
Thanks.
The ruling must be overturned.
I honestly think he was either bribed or blackmailed.
Either is grounds enough to remove him.
You’re correct, we cannot really impeach the guy. All I want is the chance to grab him by his super-duper black robe, look him square in the eyes, and ask him,”What the H3LL were you thinking?! You just DESTROYED my country and what it stood for!”
Some would say he handed the Republicans control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency for a generation.
He limited the commerce clause, he labeled obamacare for what it really is: obamatax, and he has given Conservatives a real opportunity to use reconciliation to reverse it since it was reconciliation that gave birth to this monster act. The more I read the SCHMART PEOPLE studies, the more I am starting to realize 1) Roberts is a genius and 2) he works in a process of decades as opposed to what you want: instant gratification.
Just out of curiosity, what impeachable rule or law would he be libel under? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just an inquiring mind that wants to know. ;-)
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What smart people as opposed to the knee jerkers like you are saying.
He simply gave the Democrats and Obama a way to tax their way out of the mess they created.
He just might like that. Ten bucks says Roberts is a closeted fruit cake.
i suppose it helps to vent your spleen but if judicial activism were an impeachable offense, there would be a whole lot more idiots kicked out of SCOTUS.
Did you see the posts from earlier today, where Roberts was joking about hiding out in a secure place? That doesn’t sound like a man under duress to me. He simply became and activist judge and betrayed his oath all on his own.
Impeach him for what? Expressing his opinion? Following his job description and writing a judicial opinion you disagree with? Impeach him on what basis? Your proposal is so much cow manure. I despise the man’s judicial opinion as much as anyone else, but I refuse to give up my brain to hysteria. Your proposal makes as much sense to me as the teenage girls who get on buses and subways and decide to cut someone up. It makes as much sense as an honor killing. Grow up. Quit throwing tantrums.
Maybe not...this is now a budgetary law, and it concerns budgetary matters, including taxes (like the Bush tax cuts), 51 votes are sufficient to put the law on hold for 10 years.
We can make this happen, can’t we
YES! And Kagan at the same time for not recusing herself. SHE WROTE THE LAW!
From a Constitutional perspective, anything the House wants and two thirds of the Senate will go along with.
In keeping with the spirit of the Constitution, judges must be allowed to keep their positions as long as they exercise "good behavior". It would not be unreasonable under the spirit of the Constitution to regard a violation of one's oath of office as "bad behavior".
To be sure, reckless impeachment of judges would make the SCOTUS even more overtly political than it already is, but it might also help wake up the public to something very important: the fact that what the Constitution means, and what a well-behaved court says it means, will be one and the same, does not imply that the Constitution always means what the court says it means. The Court has no actual authority over anyone other than the actual parties to the cases brought before it. If the Court overturns a ruling by a lower court that says a statute in unconstitutional, that doesn't mean the statute is constitutional. Rather, it conveys a message that any future lower court rulings which say the statute is unconstitutional are likely to be overturned, and that judges who don't want their rulings overturned should avoid issuing rulings that will be. That's it.
If five judges say one thing and four say another, the ruling by the five judges will be binding upon the actual parties to the case. On the other hand, if the ruling by the four judges cites reasonable constitutional justification and the ruling by the five judges does not, those who are sworn to uphold the Constitution should recognize that Supreme Court edicts are not superior to the Supreme Law of the Land.
Roberts was blackmailed by Obama and the ‘Rats for the illegal adoption of his kids.
Thanks, that helps. Gives me cause to do more research.
Salve
Battle is tedious, some are lost, but nothing is lost - there are still things that can be change. War is still on, I have written many times, make sure you have true conservatives in two Chambers of your Government, and clean the house your style.
Let logic prevail, not emotions, none of this you are doomed, yes its painful to watch, but by watching and crying, nothing will be done.
Only you together as people of Constitution Republic can do this, yes there is this Electoral Votes, so ....who represents you to make a difference...You will get those if you put your heads together friends.
Last laughter belongs to you if you put yourselves together and go on attack, now that is official and I new it is a tax gives you plenty of ammunition, just calculate probability and go with Sun Tzu style - knock them out in their own turf...Enemy made fatal mistake use it for your advantage with logic, and no pity.
Merci.
I said the same thing several times since yesterday. But I didn’t need a vanity to do it. Bravo!
Don’t just single out Roberts. There were 5 bad judgements.
Don’t just single out Roberts. There were 5 bad judgements.
It’s important to note that when the Constitution was written, a politician’s job was considered a duty rather than an entitlement. The Congress would not by itself have any authority to punish people for things, but replacing someone who fails to perform his duties with someone who will perform them faithfully is not a punishment. Indeed, I’m somewhat uncomfortable with this “contempt of Congress” business. What Congress should be doing is demanding that Holder either demonstrate that he is faithfully executing the duties of his office, or resign so the position can be filled by someone who will. If Holder persistently refuses to do either of those things, Congress should impeach.
Gonna have to hold our breath, vote does our feckless leaders and hope they will remove this travesty by its roots.
Wish in one hand.....
If it can be shown that he was bribed or threatened, that would be impeachable. Or if it can be proven that his seizure condition and medication has impaired his judgment and therefore making him unfit for duty, he could be removed. I don’t think that would take impeachment, just him stepping down under pressure. But all of this is a heavy burden of proof which I don’t think can be met.
My, aren’t you the arrogant newbie? There aren’t any damn silver linings in this thing. Smart people understand that.
It's time for a revolution, and by that I mean it's time we stop obeying the Federal government on such ridiculous issues, and forcing a confrontation with them. It's up to them how far they want to take it. Voting will get us no where when it comes to federal elections. Voting for people who are willing to confront the federal government in state elections are the only thing that matters. Our federal government must be destructed and rebuilt, because it's past the point of being fixed. We can accept living under tyranny, or we can accept doing what must be done to save our nation. Our constitution means nothing, our courts rule on personal political opinion, and even the best of our leaders can't stop this tyranny. We aren't sure we can even defeat Obamacare, and we were in serious trouble before this was even an issue.
Roberts should be impeached and removed from office for incompetence and sophistry unbefitting of a SC justice. Obama and Holder should be impeached as well. We all know the dems will prevent anyone from being removed from office. But what is the harm in having hearings and exposing this crap to the masses?
I never understood all the excitement over Roberts when he was nominated anyway. Sam Alito is my favorite justice by far and should have been given the head position of the court as he always follows the Constitution to the letter.
My theory is that Roberts was blackmailed or threatened and threw the left a curve. He acted like a hostage who is made to say how much he hates his country but loves his captors, so the hostage sends a hidden message to let us know that he is saying these things under duress.
To continue my theory, Roberts was threatened to go along with Obama and the left and vote to uphold Obamacare. He did, but to screw them over, he didn’t vote for the Commerce Clause provision, but instead called it constitutional because it was a tax, thereby giving us a gift. Now Romney can use this as a campaign issue to say that Obama and the Democrats gave us the biggest tax hike in the history of the world. They didn’t want this in an election year. Look how Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg reacted to his ruling. She actually wrote a dissent for the Majority! Now I’m not a lawyer, but I know that that is an unusual happening in court proceedings.
I believe that this was Roberts saying to Obama and his band of merry men, OK, you will get your precious health care law upheld, but it will be on my terms.
It is the only rational thing I can think of for this irrational act. Either that, or he’s nuts!
Either way, doing something so destructive purely to generate backlash is stupid.
That good occasionally can come from evil in no way justifies evil. If the senate changes hands Roberts should be impeached for moral cowardice. Even if you have to spell it "jaywalking".
Hey, what about the other 4? If it wasn’t for Roberts, we wouldn’t have our 2nd Amendment.
If so it should be brought to the public. If he was literally blackmailed for something, and decided he would make a nation destroying decision against our constitution to protect himself then it should be brought to the surface. Whatever it takes to bring out anything that played an influence on his decision should be made public. Regardless of why he made this unconstitutional decision he should be ruined for his unconstitutional act.
Not while Obama is in the White House
They might say that, but they would be wrong. If the obscene excesses of FDR corruption only led to more re-elections and more corruption, why think this cynical piece of crap will suddenly turn 70 million grasshoppers into worker ants?
So far even the presidency is still a toss up. Remember Carville's book in 2008? gloating about "40 years" of democrat dominance? That lasted all of two years.
Bear in mind--the huge majority of voters have no idea what all the fuss is about, and don't care.
Cannot be by the Court. And the lack of any intelligence on the conservative GOP side makes it impossible to do a damn thing. We are toast on this criminal inspired health care which includes unlimited corruption that has nothing to do with health care. Only overturning would be to win the Senate and Presidency keep the House and kick the bill in the ass.
Everyone of them who violated the constitution for the sake of their sick toltaltarian politics in this Obamacare case, should be impeached. But that is not going to happen.
Yeah, let’s impeach him. Better yet let’s make sure it’s before the election. That way Obama can nominate someone and we can replace someone who rules with Scalia 90% of the time with a new judge like Kagan or Sontomoyer.
Over the last 200 years, Congress has used impeachment for all types of offensives, so yes, you could "impeach" Roberts for liberal activism and failing up to hold constitutional law. But if you were successful and removed him, Obama would name his replacement. How
Over the last 200 years, Congress has used impeachment for all types of offensives, so yes, you could "impeach" Roberts for liberal activism and failing up to hold constitutional law. But if you were successful and removed him, Obama would name his replacement. How would that solve anything?
We have procedures to fire or remove politicians and judges from office, but we can’t even get rid of people like Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters or Eric Holder so I don’t see how we would have the courge to impeach a supreme court justice no matter what they did.
You can’t stay tied up in courts while being threatened with funds being withheld, and being forced to do exactly what the federal government demands forever unless you accept tyranny. It’s obvious what our founding fathers would think of our current federal government, and this is exactly the reason they gave us the right to destroy the government when it becomes something it was never meant to be. It’s time to start ignoring these demands, and let the federal government give us back our freedom, or let them escalate the situation.
Of Roberts, one might ask that old liberal Howard Baker line: What did GWB know about the real Roberts and when did he know it?
Yea, maybe Roberts has Stockholm Syndrome? Maybe Harriet Miers would have been more reliable, but who knows?
The Constitution was put in place with its limitations, in part, to KEEP America from digging a “political hole” for itself like with this non-tax tax or penalty or unicorn food. Where the Constitution has done that, it’s the duty of the Supreme Court to echo and uphold it. Four gallant souls on it did. Even Kennedy!
Is it possible to impeach a Justice for mental incompetence? I’m wondering about Roberts and the effect of those seizure pills now.
Miers was derided as being a pedestrian lawyer, but I’d rather have five Mierses than the cabal that rubber stamped Obamacare. As it is, she’d have been in what is Alito’s seat had she survived the storm, so it wouldn’t have helped with the Roberts problem.
We would unless we all decided we didn’t want to fight for something granted us under our Constitution. If we are just going to follow the frivolous opinions of courts then we should give up now. The federal government cannot be stopped, or fixed, at this point. It’s time for it to be dissolved and rebuilt. It’s pointless to keep fighting an obvious losing battle within the corrupt system.
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Maddie
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