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Congressional Democrats’ Pennsylvania Problem
Rothenberg Political Report ^ | 6/29/12 | Stuart Rothenberg

Posted on 06/29/2012 5:30:18 PM PDT by randita

Congressional Democrats’ Pennsylvania Problem Stuart Rothenberg June 29, 2012 · 3:48 PM EDT

As Democrats struggle to net 25 seats and win back the House majority in November, no single state reflects the party’s challenges more than Pennsylvania.

After all, Pennsylvania has gone Democratic in the past five presidential contests, and the apparent movement of the Philadelphia suburbs away from the GOP during the past two decades suggests a fundamental political shift in the state.

But if the southeastern corner of the Keystone State has started to resemble New Jersey and Connecticut, Western Pennsylvania increasingly looks like West Virginia or southeastern Ohio, areas where voters have started to think and behave more like Republicans. This movement of working-class voters toward the GOP has helped offset the partisan trend in the Philadelphia suburbs, keeping Pennsylvania an interesting and competitive state.

Pennsylvania swung wildly between 2006 and 2010, as most of the country did.

Democrats gained a total of five House seats in the Keystone State in the 2006 and 2008 elections — one-tenth of their total haul. After the ’08 elections, Democrats held 12 of the state’s 19 Congressional districts. Two years later, the numbers flipped, with Republicans sitting in 12 seats.

Redistricting after the 2010 census, of course, has further changed the state’s arithmetic because the GOP-controlled state Legislature made it more difficult for House Democrats to make gains by packing Democratic voters together, including throwing two incumbent Democrats into the same district.

So, while Democrats remain hopeful about retaking the House, Pennsylvania is starting to look like a black hole for them this year. And if the party can’t come out of Pennsylvania gaining even a single additional House seat this cycle, there will be extra pressure in states such as Illinois, California and Florida, where redistricting did benefit Democrats, to pick up seats.

Democrats’ best opportunity in the state remains the 8th district, a competitive Bucks County seat that incumbent Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R) won in 2004, lost in 2006 and won back in 2010.

According to GOP calculations, after redistricting, that district is less than a point more Republican than it was in 2008, when Sen. John McCain drew less than 46 percent of the vote there. And yet, the Democratic nominee is Kathy Boockvar, a politically untested attorney who had $250,000 in the bank on April 4, compared with $927,000 for Fitzpatrick.

Boockvar had a small legal practice for more than a decade and then worked for a few years for a nonprofit organization “as their Pennsylvania voting rights counsel.” Democratic operatives note that the nature of the district creates a problem for Fitzpatrick. But Boockvar doesn’t have the kind of “story,” credentials or assets automatically associated with a top-tier challenger.

Democrats’ next best opportunity in the state is the 6th district, where Manan Trivedi is making another run at Rep. Jim Gerlach (R). Trivedi, a physician and Iraq War vet, is a credible challenger, and the district is politically competitive. But Gerlach, who survived ’06 and ’08, has proved that he can win just more than 50 percent of the vote in this district no matter how hostile the political environment.

Finally, Washington County Commissioner Larry Maggi, who is taking on Rep. Tim Murphy (R), might be worth a look. A former Marine, state trooper and county sheriff, Maggi is a county commissioner who ran unsuccessfully for Congress in 2002. But although he was the candidate preferred by the Democratic establishment (and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee) in that race, he lost the primary.

On April 4, Maggi had $267,000 on hand compared with Murphy’s almost $1.4 million. McCain actually ran better in both the old and redrawn district than President George W. Bush did in 2004, suggesting that President Barack Obama’s presence at the top of the ticket in November won’t help Maggi’s underdog bid.

Elsewhere, Republicans who were top Democratic targets in previous cycles seem barely threatened this time.

Freshman Rep. Patrick Meehan, whose district got more than 4 points better for him under the new lines, is being challenged by attorney George Badey, longtime chairman of the Radnor Democratic Committee. Badey had $193,000 in the bank compared with Meehan’s $1 million on April 4.

Almost every cycle, Democrats come up with someone they say will give politically savvy Rep. Charlie Dent (R) a real run for his money. Not this time. Lehigh County Democratic Chairman Richard Daugherty showed less than $4,500 in the bank as of April 4.

In the northwest corner of the state, freshman Rep. Mike Kelly looks like an obvious Democratic target in a district that legislators made barely more Republican than it was when former Democratic Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper won it in 2008. But the Democratic nominee this time, Missa Eaton, who teaches at Penn State Shenango, had $16,000 in the bank on April 4.

And Democrats can’t take their own Pittsburgh/Johnstown seat for granted. Rep. Mark Critz won a primary against a Democratic colleague, but he now faces a serious challenge from Republican Keith Rothfus, who narrowly lost two years ago to Rep. Jason Altmire (D).

Some might see the weak Pennsylvania class of challengers as a “recruiting failure” by the DCCC and particularly by its recruiting chairwoman, Rep. Allyson Schwartz (Pa.). But you can’t make interesting, credentialed candidates run if they don’t want to, and it looks as if Keystone Democrats have decided this isn’t the year to run against incumbent Republicans in Pennsylvania.

Some of the Democrats’ problems might be because of Obama, who is expected to be weak in Western Pennsylvania. In addition, redistricting insulated supposedly weaker Republican incumbents, including freshman Reps. Tom Marino and Lou Barletta.

Schwartz, who insists her party does have a number of good opportunities in the state, told me this week that the lateness of the new map, which wasn’t finalized until December, and rumors throughout the second half of 2011 suggesting Democrats would have to run in very unfriendly districts made recruiting more difficult than it ordinarily would have been.

Democrats will try to improve their prospects in Pennsylvania during the next few months, but it looks as if the party will need to look elsewhere in its much advertised “Drive to 25.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012election; gop; pennsylvania; ushouse

1 posted on 06/29/2012 5:30:22 PM PDT by randita
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; no dems; Kaslin; perfect_rovian_storm; ...

Rothenberg released a new set of House ratings today. Looks like he has improved on the GOP chances since his last set of ratings.

http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.com/ratings/house

Interesting that he has Matheson as Toss Up/Tilt GOP. No wonder Matheson is boycotting the convention. He’s reading the tea leaves.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 5:33:24 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

Not that I should be giving the Dim’s advice..

Don’t worry about gaining the house.

Worry about minimizing losses...


3 posted on 06/29/2012 5:41:44 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: randita

Tim Murphy has been very visible at community functions in his southwestern PA district, pressing the flesh. The Trib, the conservative Pittsburgh paper, continues to excoriate him as a ‘union lover’. If he loses and the Dem takes his seat, the Trib will have handed the seat to gleeful Democrats.


4 posted on 06/29/2012 5:44:58 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: randita

So what does he call Arkansas 4th? Safe Democrat? Most local Democrats I speak to expect a Republican pickup.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 5:44:58 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: randita

Gerlach had 57% of the vote in 2010 vs Trividi in the PA 6. This seat isn’t up for grabs like the author wants one to believe.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 5:48:37 PM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: Ciexyz
What makes it even weirder is that the Trib consistently endorsed that corrupt old b*stard Murtha when he was alive.

Murphy is a little too union friendly for my taste but, hell, the 18th district is very blue collar and he has to throw them a bone once in awhile to survive. Rick Santorum had to do the same when he represented our district, as the Newtbots will gleefully remind everyone.

(Thanks, Newtbots, Santorum actually had a decent shot of winning the nomination in February when Newt couldn't read the writing on the wall after Super Tuesday.)

7 posted on 06/29/2012 5:54:04 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: randita
apparent movement of the Philadelphia suburbs away from the GOP during the past two decades suggests a fundamental political shift in the state.

Maddening these idiots flee the chaos in the city and come to the burbs and continue to vote for the same party that ruined the city

Same thing happening in our states as people flee California and NY for conservative states and still vote for the democrats

How feakin dumb can people be

Makes your head spin
8 posted on 06/29/2012 5:55:23 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: randita

It’s not about PA going blue, it’s about voter fraud. Unless we fix that, absentee ballots included, we haven’t got a chance.


9 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:02 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: DeaconBenjamin

AR-04 is not on Rothenberg’s list of the 66 seats he thinks are in play. So he probably considers it Safe-R with Ross retiring.

John McCain got 58% of the vote there in 2008.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:32 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

He’s still got McCotter listed in Michigan. I thought he had given up after being the victim of some kind of dirty trick with the petition to get on the ballot (most of the names submitted were invalid). He won more than 60% of the vote in 2010 so it should be a reasonably safe seat for a Republican.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:45 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PSUGOP
Tim Murphy is my congress critter and he will win going away. Westmoreland County has changed colors from blue to red and for the first time in 56 years, we have two pubbie vs one demonRAT county commishes.

I have, for the first time in my voting lifetime, a pubbie for a state congress critter, and a pubbie for a state senator.

We still have john roberts as chief lewinsky on the supreme court.

12 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:59 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: randita

In 2010 - Pennsylvania elected in Republican governor, Republican Senator and both houses in Harrisburg went Republican for the first time in 30 years.

Philadelphia democrats have been neutered and they have no friends in Harrisburg anymore to bring home the graft. Their “big guns” are dead, retired or in jail.

No one on Bucks County (liberal white) likes obama much anymore.

I just wish the Republicans would do a Walker and free the state workers from bring FORCED to join a public union as a condition of employment.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 6:03:31 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: randita

Gee,,,,,,does this mean nobody is going to the Obamacare Convention in Sept.??


14 posted on 06/29/2012 6:12:16 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: randita

During the 2000 election fiasco,it dawned on me: we can NEVER, EVER vote for a Democrat in a local election!!! Not for the city commission, the county alderman, or dog catcher!! We cannot let them get their foot in the door!

This is what TEA Party and Repub volunteers should be working for. Pennsylvania has much work to do.


15 posted on 06/29/2012 6:16:24 PM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: Kenny

Call and volunteer to be a poll watcher. There should be several in each precinct. Take the day off and help stop the fraud.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 6:19:49 PM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: randita
John McCain got 58% of the vote there in 2008. Not only did Obama lose to Hillary in this district in 2008, I think he lost to the no-name Tennessee lawyer in this district in the 2012 Democrat presidential primary.

How many seats does he foresee the Republicans winning without much challenge?

17 posted on 06/29/2012 6:47:37 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: Kenny

Every republican gov should be cleaning up their states’ voting rolls and integrity.. Like Rick Scott in Fl.


18 posted on 06/29/2012 6:55:09 PM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: uncbob

“Maddening these idiots flee the chaos in the city and come to the burbs and continue to vote for the same party that ruined the city”

Just like the Illegal Alien Mexicans here in California. They are like animals who have succeeded in crapping up their own nest to such an extent that it is no longer livable, so they move on to a nicer place and start their defecating all over again! Maybe we should start a government program to buy all of them a big screen so that they have something to do besides procreating to occupy their spare time! Judging from some recent posts, we should probably extend that program to all the AA’s as well.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 7:06:01 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“So what does he call Arkansas 4th? Safe Democrat? Most local Democrats I speak to expect a Republican pickup.”

All these pollsters are the same. Rasmussen shows McCaskill as a tossup when Silverman is over 50% and nine points ahead of her. It’s always the same, they stick with the incumbent until the eleventh hour. It’s the same with Heller in Nevada, but he’s the appointed incumbent at 51% with his opponent ( a worthless liberal ex professor transplant) polling only 40%. Go figure!


20 posted on 06/29/2012 7:13:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: randita

After what they did to Weldon, they’re NEVER getting PA-7 back.


21 posted on 06/29/2012 7:15:39 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
How many seats does he foresee the Republicans winning without much challenge?

He isn't dealing with the safe seats. His focus is on the competitive seats of which he deals with 66.

In another article, Rothenberg asserts that it's a pipe dream for Democrats to take back the house and expects the result to be basically a wash, the result being anywhere from a +1 gain for the GOP to a +6 gain for the Rats.

Dozens of seats in GOP leaning districts that were represented by Rats prior to 2010 (think Blue Dog) came back to the GOP. So there aren't a lot of seats left that should be GOP, but aren't. In addition, there were quite a few Dem leaning districts that went GOP. Those are the ones that are the most precarious and many of those will probably return to Dems.

In states under GOP control, like PA and NC, the redistricting favored the GOP. In other states, like IL and CA, the GOP got further neutered in the redistricting process, although in CA the result wasn't as bad for the GOP as many expected.

22 posted on 06/29/2012 7:16:22 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

I was just checking the Senate race map. IF all the stars were aligned and it turns out to be another ‘80 or ‘94, there are up to 12 seats that could go the GOP way. Of course, that’s being wildly optimistic. I DO think the GOP will get a minimum of 4 pickups.

IF the GOP picks up a good share of those, some of the Senate D’s who will be up for reelection in ‘14 might find it convenient to go along with repealing O’care.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 7:34:24 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: uncbob
They didn't leave Philadelphia. This is old Mainline money and rich professionals who were only nominally Republican to begin with; they have always lived in the suburbs.

The key to taking back PA is getting the traditional Catholic vote in the coal region (NE/NE Central PA.) It's the only significant demographic that might actually be up for grabs. Western PA might trend slightly more Republican, but it's too unionized, sparsely populated, and losing people every year.

24 posted on 06/29/2012 7:36:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When you find yourself arguing against Scalia and Thomas, you AREN'T a conservative.)
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To: vette6387
It’s always the same, they stick with the incumbent until the eleventh hour.

Ross retired. It's an open seat.

25 posted on 06/29/2012 7:39:01 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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Tothenberg leans dem so it is nice to hear concern from him.


26 posted on 06/29/2012 7:55:58 PM PDT by Leto (Damn shame Sarah didn't run the Presidency was there for the taking)
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To: randita

“One simple question, Mr./Ms. Democrat would-be representative - no gibberish, no B.S., easy yes or no - will you vote to repeal the Obama Healthcare tax?”........


27 posted on 06/29/2012 9:01:06 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: randita

Come on! All this talk and nobody is discussing all the new Beverly Hillbillies being made rich by fracking? I can’t think of any other new item that will play a greater overall role in the potential Republican successes in Pennsylvania.


28 posted on 06/29/2012 9:37:56 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: DeaconBenjamin; randita; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; justiceseeker93

Both Sabato and Rothenberg have AR-4 as safe REPUBLICAN now.

I wouldn’t have thought so, I fully expect to win but I’d still give the rats a sliver of a chance.

But I won’t argue with with them on that!!!!!

I will argue with a bunch of their other rankings. I think both are being too charitable to the other side and putting too many GOP seats in play.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/the-houses-15-closest-contests/

Sabato is fixating on a mere 15 seats which he calls tossups and said he expects the rats to win of 10 them (I don’t) and that will net them just 3 seats. But he says even a “Romney romp” wouldn’t guarantee that we gain a mere 5 seats.

Sabato I think is just a moron,. He has Hochul and McIntyre not only winning but he doesn’t even rank those as tossups.

I am not an “expert” but I consider myself a skilled amateur and while I have yet to do a comprehensive state by state look I see very little net partisan change happening, which both experts seem to agree with. Unlike them though I think we are as likely to gain 5 as to lose 5.

And I think the rat’s actually getting to 218 is all but impossible. +10 seems to be the high limit for them unless circumstances change drastically.


29 posted on 06/30/2012 1:29:52 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: randita

PA industry is in bed with the Marxists. Not the Carnegie genre it once was.


30 posted on 06/30/2012 1:34:56 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ..

PA Ping!


31 posted on 06/30/2012 6:15:10 AM PDT by randita
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To: 2banana

It seems to me that in the past 2-3 years the “bench” for the democrats has gotten pretty thin. They have no one to run in a lot of places. Look at the woman in this article they have “selected” to run. I almost feel sorry for her.

Look at what they re-ran against Scott Walker.

Here in Michigan all they could run on their side was a guy who proudly claimed to be “the angriest mayor in America”, (he was the Mayor of Lansing, which is nothing to crow about).

The woman here they picked to run on their side for S.O.S. was a law professor, with not much if any political experience. And they all lost.


32 posted on 06/30/2012 6:27:27 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Impy
There is nothing nonpartisan about Larry Sabato. From wikipedia (but I already knew this about Sabato, and had attended campaign events for Howell, actually being a prop for one of his stump speeches when very young).

Prior to his time as a political analyst, Sabato worked for nine years with [very leftist] Virginia Democratic politician Henry Howell.

A fiery populist, Howell assailed Big Business, particularly banks, insurance companies, and monopolies. A favorite target was Dominion Virginia Power, then known as VEPCO, which Howell claimed stood for "Very Expensive Power Company." A believer in the right to organize, he often attempted to repeal Virginia's right-to-work law.

33 posted on 06/30/2012 7:19:46 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: Impy

If the categories (in order from worst to best) are safe Dem, Dem favored, lean Dem, tilt Dem, tossup, tilt R, lean R, R favored and safe R, I would say that McIntyre’s NC-07 should be tilt R (and may be lean R before it’s over) and Hochsul’s NY-26 should be R favored.

But I agree, AR-04 should be no better than R favored (same with AR-01, IMHO).


34 posted on 06/30/2012 7:58:18 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: randita; fatima; South Hawthorne

Thanks, randita.

Something else that will impact the Rat’s voter shenanigans is the new Voter ID requirement at the Polls. Of course, that assumes that there are Repub poll workers in every polling place, a doubtful occurrence in a lot of the Philly polls. I’d be surprised if Soetero/Obama gets much less than 75% (he got 83% against McCain) in Phila City/County.


35 posted on 06/30/2012 9:58:56 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 2banana
In 2010 - Pennsylvania elected in Republican governor, Republican Senator and both houses in Harrisburg went Republican for the first time in 30 years.

Realistically, 2banana, what do you think are the chances of PA going for Romney over Obama in November. I know they have gone for the Dem in the last 5 Presidential Elections. But, I'm thinking, we might have a chance of taking PA this time. I'd like your opinion.
36 posted on 07/01/2012 4:47:18 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: 2banana
both houses in Harrisburg went Republican for the first time in 30 years.

Republicans had majority control of both chambers of the PA legislature from 1995-2006.

37 posted on 07/01/2012 1:03:59 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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