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Posted on 06/30/2012 2:43:06 PM PDT by Innovative
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You are coming unhinged. Please provide evidence in quotes where anyone said they “LOVED” Romney. I’ll wait, but I won’t hold my breath.
As for your “credentials” on being a conservative, methinks you protest too much. Those who have them don’t have to “prove” it, and those who don’t are usually the ones screaming the loudest in all caps throughout their rants while hurling insults at people they don’t even know. (Sound familiar?)
You know NOTHING about anyone here who has done what in the conservative field because you keep making assumptions based on no evidence whatsoever about your fellow FReepers. Get a clue! How about dealing with the FACTS and what people here have actually SAID about WHY they are voting for Romney if he’s the Republican candidate in November instead of hurling insults, and making up blatant lies without any facts to back them up? Guess that’s out of your league though. Oh well, there are none so blind as those who cannot see.
Well, that won't prove out long at the rate the Republicans are accepting leftist/progressive positions/programs like abortionism, homosexualism, gun control, amnesty, glo-bull warming, socialist healthcare and promoting lying progressive politicians claiming to be conservative, etc, etc, etc. Like I said, the camel is in the tent. The gooks are in the wire.
And THAT is why we have to hold their feet to the fire — nothing we have even the remotest chance of doing if the Zero gets in for a second term.
1. Just where do you come off with this "most of us" crap?
2. Since your love object Myth Romney is an enthusiastic mass babykiller, an enthusiastic marriage destroyer and faggot coddler, for two obvious examples, I would just love to be a fly on the wall of eternity when you arrive to be judged. If you cast an unrepented vote for Myth Romney, that will just have to be some argument you make to Christ as to why you have not rejected Him. While government cannot save your soul, endorsing a despicable babykilling, marriage destroying, church persecuting POS like Romney can certainly send you straight to hell. It does not look very likely that your repentance will be forthcoming only your stubborn rationalizations for evil, yours and Myth's. AND, supporting Myth wit the intention of later repentance is the serious sin of presumption.
We can do something to hold Obama’s feet to the fire that the Republicans will never do for us in Romney’s case: IMPEACH THE CORRUPT CRONY BASTARD!! And it’s really the only way you can hold a president’s feet to the fire.
Have no idea what you’re talking about re: #1
#2 - please feel free to provide Scriptural evidence for going to hell by voting for someone. Again, not holding my breath. Here’s tip for you, though: Your views do not trump Scripture, no matter how much you want them to do so. Show me where Scripture supports your comments that I will be going to Hell for voting for Romney. Thanks. (Again, I won’t hold my breath).
BTW, I have made no rationalizations for evil, but voluntarily voting in a way that will allow the Zero back in is as great a rationalization for that as I’ve ever seen. Good luck with that.
If it hasn’t happened so far, not likely to. Not without strong leaders as a majority in both houses of Congress — and I don’t see that on the horizon since true statesmen appear to be few and far between in today’s climate.
Since the conventions have not been held, just who are the two choices?
You ARE whom and what you vote for.
You don't have to try to pretend not to worship Romney here or play make believe conservative. We understand. You want Myth Romney to be POTUS so bad you can taste it. Why should you be committed to actual principle when you can elect a POS like Romney?
Don't bother to play act as a conservative if he is elected and continues the tyranny of Obozo only in whiteface as a "Republican."
Credentials??? Let's hear yours. I did not think so. Just a keyboard warrior eager to sell out his country and his party. Lifelong habits, no doubt.
You ARE whom and what you vote for. Either Obozo or Romney will be destroyed on election night in 2012. It matters not a bit which one is destroyed then. The other will be destroyed at leisure as we RESIST!!!
The going assumption is that Romney will be the candidate for the Republicans. I’m talking about November elections, not before. If you’ll read my previous posts you’ll see that. I would LOVE to see a real conservative come out of the convention (which I have also said my previous posts, but gee, I’m such a “Romney love slave” according to some, that I guess it just got lost in the shuffle/s.), but given the way things stand I’m not holding my breath. NOwhere did I discourage anyone from trying to replace Romney at the convention, but I am looking at things realistically and if his name is by the “R” and Obama’s is by the “D” on November 4, guess where my vote will go? (Hint: Not to a third party candidate).
Scripture references, please, for your accusations. All the rest is just mindless blather and nonsense.
Again, (sigh), you know NOTHING about me or ANY of the other posters on this board who have stated they are going to vote for Romney. Nor will your sorry blatherings compel me to tell you anything. You don’t merit that level of consideration.
You have presented nothing but insults — certainly nothing that would make me think you are a cut above any other conservative on this board. You play at being “top gun” but your attitude and insults towards fellow conservatives who disagree with you show who you really are and it’s anything but impressive.
If you are looking for "statesmen," you are looking for love in all the wrong places. Small wonder you can't find 'em.
Never said anything about who to vote for in Congress. I hope the Tea Party sweeps through and makes some real changes, but I don’t have any confidence that can or will happen during a Presidential election. As for Mitt Romney being “my boy” — shows you haven’t been paying attention. I didn’t vote for him in the primary. Nor did my state. But if he’s the only one standing with the “R” next to his name on election day, I’ll do what I need to do to buy the country a little more time.
Just how does that happen “holding their feet to the fire”. The Republicans try and resist BHO, they will most likely cave to Romney.
I do not support Romney or BHO.
I will not vote for either if they are the candidates.
I will vote down the ticket for the conservative candidates.
With a strongly conservative Congress, it can happen. We don’t have that now. And we CERTAINLY don’t have the power to stop the Zero unless we sweep both houses.
I want BOTH of these enemies of this country politically destroyed. One in November and one immediately thereafter is the best that can be done. What order they are destroyed in makes NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever. So long as BOTH are destroyed.
I don't care what you SAY you did in the primary. I care what happens next. You are on autobrag as to how you will vote Robamney to give America another three seconds or so (a dubious proposition at even in your wildest hallucination).
If you want a united GOP, you have a very short time to figure out how to get rid of Romney AND to nominate someone vaguely acceptable. That will show what you REALLY think and believe. Until then your relentless bleating for Robamney as you eagerly look forward to voting for the POS will have to be your hallmark, now and forever. As to those who honestly ask forgiveness, God may forgive. For those who insist on doing extreme evil (materially cooperating with putting a pro-abort in the White House whether Robamney or Obozo) knowingly and willfully, I have a hard time imagining the punishment when you have to explain to God your eager material cooperation with the slaughter of another 5 million innocent babies.
“I would love to accommodate you but I will ask Dr. Sivana, my far more savvy computer expert to post the Erick Erickson column from today’s Hotair. “
Already posted by Roses of Sharon:
Instead of attacking those who understand that we are left with only one alternative to Obama, why don't you tell us who the magical Candidate is who will sweep in and garner more Votes than Obama, therefore denying him another Term to finish off the job?
I know I didn't Vote for Romney in the Primary Election. I Voted for Gingrich. I am sure neither Innovative, Rogue Yam or the “handful of others” you referenced Voted for Romney in the Primary. In fact, I am so confident of my belief that I am willing to put up $25 for the FReepathon (in addition to my usual Monthly Donation) if you can prove otherwise.
I would bet more, but my Wife is a victim of the Obama (Not Romney) Economy and is looking for work having been laid off a few months ago. The resulting $1,300 per month COBRA premium is putting a dent in our expenses at the moment.
Now, let me just state for the record that I have and have always been “an honest fellow”. My screen name is my screen name and I will only change it if you change yours to “Reelect Obama the Original Black and White Elk”.
2. I am a Roman Catholic. I leave the Scriptural analysis to the popes and the Teaching Magisterium of the Church. I leave the Scripture quoting here to my Reformed siblings and others. I also refuse to argue with those of other faiths here since Free Republic (this will be a real surprise to you and your little platoon of Romney love slaves) is a CONSERVATIVE website where the actual conservatives (that would NOT be you or your ilk) ought to avoid religious doctrinal disputes and work toward an effective political coalition of those (not you or your ilk) who DESERVE to be called conservative. I want never to refer to me and thee in ANY context as "we."
2A. In the Catholic Faith, we are instructed by papal documents. In 1994, Blessed Pope John Paul II promulgated the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church. It is easily available online and I am not going to type the text for the learning disabled such as you. See Sections 2319 and 2320 and 2322 and 2223 and 2270 through 2274. Also, the non-Scriptural Didache 2: 2 of St. Ignatius of Antioch (1st Century AD) as well as Jeremiah 1: 5; Job 10: 8-12; Psalms 22: 10-11; Psalms 139: 15. Material cooperation with abortion (like voting for Myth Romney master abortion-lover is an automatic excommunicating offense for Catholics: called excommunication latae sententiae.
2B. Now, I am well aware that the Roman Catholic Church is not the only church to take a very firm pro-life position such as we do. We are about 25% of the population. The Southern Baptist Convention is about 17% of the population and VERY rooted in Scripture. Missouri Synod Lutherans, Wisconsin Evangelical Synod Lutherans, Westminster Confession Presbyterians, Assemblies of God, Seventh Day Adventists, many Evangelical and Pentecostal congregations, Evangelical Free Church, many other Baptist congregations, Amish, Mennonites and even Bishop Romney's own Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and IIRC Jehovah's Witnesses and even some Congregationalist Churches (rooted in an old Pennsylvania Dutch faith) are quite firmly pro-life. Of course, it appears that Bishop Romney is not a very good or faithful Mormon any more than he is a good American or good conservative or good Republican. That is their problem and yours.
2C. I ask the folks of other faiths whom I have pinged or whom I have not pinged to identify their respective faiths and cite the Scriptures you request as they are probably more talented and practiced than I at citing Scripture. I don't even know whom many of them intend to give their vote in November.
You sure don't look like you have sworn off. Romney = Obozo = Moloch = Obozo = Romney.
As to the rest of your post, I don't really give a rat's patoot (there I go criticizing your love object again). Cry me a river. You get what you deserve.
There is no magical major party candidate. Vote third party and live to fight another day. November 6, 2012, at least as to POTUS, is an unmitigated disaster as things stand. No matter which is elected, the USA is at least temporarily toast. Ditto until BOTH are destroyed, Pollyanna.
See posts #151, #164.
If, as you say, you are incapable of presenting a clear Scriptural basis for your rants you should not claim God’s position as something about which you are knowledgeable. His plan is fully laid out in Scripture. It’s not something to be handled lightly or in anger because you wish His position to be something it is not.
Yes, I am FULLY aware of how grounded the SBC is in Scripture because I am Southern Baptist. As such, I know better than to tell someone they are going to Hell for voting for a specific candidate and must “explain” to God any political position. The ONLY position which counts is their standing in regards to the Lamb of God. (There are numerous Scriptures which back this up, btw.)
As for me “eagerly awaiting” voting for Romney and all other blatant misrepresentation and lies you have spouted throughout your rants, it does seem you need to repent of that or CITE me in QUOTES where I STATE what you are CLAIMING I state. Short of that, you are libeling fellow conservatives and I will waste no more time on such drivel and evil acts by someone touting to be a fellow conservative. Your rants are nonsensical and beneath contempt.
RE: #1, please quote me or cease the libel. I did not say anything to the effect that most conservatives are voting Romney. What I SAID (since you seem incapable of reading for comprehension) is that most who are voting for Romney....are doing so because there is no valid and viable third choice. Your idea that voting third party will help us “live to fight another day” is beyond absurd. There will be no other day if Zero gets re-elected.
Kindly cease using such offensive language as “love object” — or again QUOTE ME that I said what you are claiming. Yes, indeed, please quote me or anyone else on this thread who says we “worship” Romney, “eagerly await” voting for him, consider him our “love object”, blah blah blah. Such language is nonsensical and shows a mind incapable of comprehension. Short of that, I will have to conclude that you have a serious problem with the truth and are engaging in misrepresentation ON PURPOSE.
#151 is your customary leftist infiltrator Romneybot crap that deserves no attention. #164 is svcw's usual truth which deserves YOUR attention.
Is that final clause of your second last sentence a promise or a threat. p 1. Take it up with the Rev. Mr. Richard Land and the other fine respected leaders of your church whom I feel confident resent the hell out of Myth Romney as a babykiller, among MANY other things.
2. Your Church is being persecuted under Obozocare AND under Romneycare no less than mine. I was not aware that the SBC encourages its members to vote for its persecutors.
3. You are the one who keeps coming back reflexively in defense of Myth Romney. You sure look "eager" to me or any objective observer.
4. I got your editorials but the facts were missing.
5. You are the Scripture fan. Cite Scripture as to just how virtuous it is to support the slightly lesser of two major evils. WWJD???
6. Don't flatter yourself. You are NOT my "fellow conservative." Nor my "fellow Republican" nor given your repudiation of your Christian obligations, my "fellow Christian." There is no context in which the word "we" covers both me and thee. Let's resolve to keep it that way. The sooner the lightning strikes the better.
7. Truth as is taught in every law school in the land is a complete defense to any charge of defamation, libel or slander. Have I got this right: You lick myth Romney's boots and yet have the unmitigated gall to use terms like libel to characterize his critics?????
Great post. You put it very succinctly, but I doubt it will be comprehended by those who claim to be conservatives while using the term as a club with which to beat others who disagree with them. Consider the source.
I was replying to your Post in what I thought was a respectful manner. If you choose to dismiss my comments to you, so be it. Until 2014 when Obamacare kicks in, this is still a Free Country.
If I may, I would like to point out an interesting situation that you and I both share. We both live in States (you Illinois and I California), that will happily hand their Electoral Votes to Pharaoh Obama come November.
That being the case, our opinions on this will not influence enough people in our home States to make a difference in the outcome of the November Election. The only impact we will make is on those who take the time to read our Postings here and on other Sites we may belong to.
I Posted on another Thread yesterday that I am taking a break from these “hate Romney”, for lack of another term, Threads. I pulled it off for 18 hours, but I am giving it another try. If it isn't about Cars, Dogs, Guns or Kittens I am not interested. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
Thank you in advance for respecting my wishes. Take care.
You are whom and what you vote for. And, no, the sky is not falling, Chicken Little. One of these despicables may be elected and the other must be destroyed.
I will consider your desire not to be identified as Myth's worshiper or lover the moment that you and others cease calling the actual conservatives here Obozo supporters. You plan on voting for one of these clowns. I NEVER will vote for either. My soul is NOT for sale. Sorry about yours!
Let’s get one thing straight, slick. Your claim to be a Christian is not evidenced by your attitude and the hatred you have been spewing on these boards. Christ is my savior. I wonder if He’s yours. YOU are the one who made claims regarding God’s reaction to voting Romney - not me, so the burden of proof to support those statements from God’s Word is YOURS, not mine.
I don’t answer to you or any other self-righteous member of a specific denomination who happens to be stuck on one issue alone - nor am I compelled by your pathetic attempts to libel me to explain, prove or in any way convince anyone here I am a conservative because I disagree with your stance. Your position is not the only conservative position to hold, nor (and this may surprise you) are you the keeper of the conservative trust - and thank God for it!
You are right - we do not appear to be “fellow” anything because I doubt your credentials very seriously. You are no kind of conservative, certainly not any with which I would be associated with because you are full of hatred for anyone who disagrees with you. Ad hominem attacks are typical of leftists, as is the singling out of one person for constant attacks, as is the constant attempt to deflect the issues, and certainly the constant misrepresentations of what has been said is nothing short of leftist behavior.
I NEVER said I liked Romney, but I HAVE said if he is the only main party candidate opposing Obama I will vote for him. That’s hardly “licking his boots”, “eagerly awaiting” voting for him, or “loving” him. If that’s your definition of “love slave” you really have more issues than I’m pretty sure you already do. Reading for comprehension is your friend. Try it some time.
So if I disagree with you, I am beating you over the head YET if you disagree with me, I am incapable of understanding.
I wasn’t really referencing your behavior in particular, but it’s interesting you would take it to mean you in particular.
I will repeat:
I do not support BHO or Romney, I will not vote for either.
Think you can cry a little more and throw yourself on the ground a little harder? Here’s a tissue...your act is getting old...fast.
Ok -— and??
I notice that you use the dem lying talking points and are a surrogate for 0. Your posts could have been written by a commie occupier. I’m ashamed that such a foul person lives in my country. You are not worthy of any further communication. (Snitch on me and have me banished if you like, low life. I’m sick of you and your buddies.)
One thing that I've heard is that he's good because he's a "windsock" -- blowing with the popular/political wind -- apparently the guy never heard the saying: he who stands for nothing will fall for anything. (They also discount the possibilities of 1. being hit with the "nobody I know fallacy", or 2. that he's simply lying, telling people what he thinks they want to hear.)
We have documented factual information on Romney that has long been accepted here even by many of those who have panic and run to Mitt despite his total lack of any real Conservative accomplishment.
You attack those who won't bow down and sound like the Whiners over at TBL.
And you accuse Conservatives here of lies and abuse?
Sweet Jesus that is the very definition of derangement, and self aggrandizement as well...
You are completely out of your mind.
Try sobriety, diet modification, exercise, and Jesus.
If that doesn’t work, talk to a mental health professional.
Please illustrate how I have used Democrat talking points in my posts.
rogue yam, You are pathetic.
If a person is not on their KNEES to ROMNEY
and ignoring his imposition of DEATH PANELS and GAY MARRIAGE
And SOCIALIZED MEDICINE,
and is not attacking anyone who speaks TRUTH,
then according to YOU, they are for Obama.
NOPE. They are Patriots protecting America from
scum and Obama.
And a quick look through some of your other comments and sane folks reactions to them indicates that you really have a handle on how Obam's threat is "overrated" so we should fear Romney more than another 4 years of Obama - you seem to attribute it to the same "superior knowledge" phenomenom that Holder tried to use when he had no cogent argument to back his point. If you have such "superior knowledge" about why the rest of us are nuts with our ABO movement, while you are still stuck on the ABR bit, even if it means more OBama, perhaps you should share the knowledge instead of smugly claiming to have it. I think the guy who compared you to Alynski might have something.
Jim, You really need to let your feelings out more, this hiding behind niceities is going to be your downfall...
I love you man LOL!
Funny that was about what I expected as a reply. It’s all you have. If you could prove your accusations you would do so, any reasoned person would.
Don’t worry I understand.
If you are looking for “friends” to share your anti freeper rants there is a web site for that...
We’ll be here and I will do all I can to keep the I told you so gentle...
You are campaigning for Obama.
Right here, right now.
Like everyone else seeking his re-election, you will tell any lie to advance your cause.
There is nothing more to your posts than that.
None of them have been Republicans.
History shows that Republicans are quite willing to impeach presidents instead.
Regarding such people, most minds leap instantly to Bill Clinton ~ but he's rather dull compared to President Johnson ~ quite possibly the Republican party's first non-Whig RINO
This guy converted from Democrat to Lincoln's running mate in the 1864 campaign without batting an eye ~ he made every promise to every group though. Even convinced some top drawer Radical Republicans (the Freedom loving element of politics in those days ~ people like those you find at Free Republic) that he was one of the good guys.
Then he screwed up everybody and everything. As a former Senator other Senators were loathe to vote to convict him, so he wasn't convicted ~ but he was shur 'nuff impeached by the Republican controlled House. Lincoln, though, was murdered by your typical unreconstructed Democrat ~ a man much like Nancy Pelosi ~ given to make-up and facial reconstruction ~ and he imagined everyone just loved him too!
Good write up on Johnson at http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAjohnsonA.htm ~ he had a career much like that of Mitt Romney.
Best time to get rid of such folks is at the Convention before the votes. What we don't need is another RINO we have to impeach!
Unlike Romney he felt some guilt and became a really hardcore alcoholic. Romney feels no pain promising both sides of an issue!
A minor third-party candidacy in a single state could probably tip the results either way, and in a major drop off you are dealing with incalculable winning probabilities ~ which will mean the talking heads will blame Virgil Goode for either loss ~ kind of the way they did that several times with Ralph Nader.
At the same time both parties will be sitting there with the cold hard facts that they're running about 30 million voters behind 2008!
The mittbots already know this ~ they've got Ralph Reed on board and he's telling them what to do to get out the Evangelical vote ~ which he has failed to figure out several times before (much to his own distress when he tried running for office).
So far nobody has come up with anything to encourage the Evangelicals to vote ~ and this time that may well include the black Evangelicals!
Okey Dokey, if you say so...