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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 1 July 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 1 July 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/01/2012 4:55:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: altura

I didn’t watch any of it .... watched this instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyKmPukLv0

It will be a cold day in hell before I’ll wave a white surrender flag to the likes of Dems/Libs/Progs/Obama/scumbag, lawless, Constitution-trampling politicians of any/every ilk.


151 posted on 07/01/2012 10:45:01 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Girlene

“Artur Davis was one of the few this morning worth listening to....and he was a former Democrat.”

Agreed - I really like this guy and think we’ll be seeing more of him. Hope the Repub campaign utilizes him - he has real credibility when he tells his story of why & how he came to his senses and became a conservative. Plus, the Dems just hate that, which is a delight!

PS - He was the one who seconded BHO’s nomination at the Dem Convention in ‘08 - LOL.


152 posted on 07/01/2012 11:08:30 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: llandres

Scary scenario that half the people are on the dole,spells disaster for the country. Lets hope it does not continue.


153 posted on 07/01/2012 11:11:09 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: uncbob

Playing ball and cutting deals.


154 posted on 07/01/2012 11:14:52 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: rodguy911

Sheriff Joe is about to light Barry’s britches long and about July 27th

you’ll be able to see the smoke from your front porch


155 posted on 07/01/2012 11:19:39 AM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: TomGuy

How much have the prices of our homes fallen under Obama?
What is the dollar worth? How much more money have we paid for gas at the pump? How much more are we charged for goods purchased? Now we will be taxed to pay for other people’s healthcare? Our pensions may be at risk. We may not even be able to talk to a doctor if we get sick.
Where are the promised jobs from stimulus? We all listen to the Administration and MSM lie and spin everyday.


156 posted on 07/01/2012 11:22:09 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: llandres

Interesting...I did not know that about Artur Davis. Thanks!


157 posted on 07/01/2012 11:25:34 AM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: llandres
Davis was really good,an inspiration for us all.

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Just watched Jack Lew again...,on FNC with Wall Ass. He's loaded with dem chatting points used now on every show he has been on.

Here's some of them:

1. Health care benefits are here now. Meanwhile Paul Ryan on another show has already agreed we will keep the popular ones and we don't have to reinvent govt. to do it.

2.Forget the tax word lets get on with the implementation of it.They are scared of calling obamcare a tax

3.Those who want to get rid of ozerocare have to explain how no one will lose any benefits that they have now.this has already been proven a lie as many are losing the coverage they have now since it gets too expensive under zero care.

4.You have to buy it before you try it.More piglosi logic

5.You can tell the dems are scared sh_tless about having to call obamcare a tax it kills ozeros big pledge of those under 250k not having to pay more taxes.This is a biggie.

6.We have cut taxes 50 zillion times,they use this one every show. Its minuscule tax cuts with much bigger hits everywhere in spending that are never mentioned.

7.Only 1% will ever pay the penalties...More BS no telling how many will pay or lose their insurance.

8.Its constitutional does not matter what you call it. They will do or say anything but the word tax--it really scares them.

It's clear that lews big job today is to prevent anyone from calling ozerocare a tax. They are scared to death about that happening. If we are smart we will keep calling it a tax.

158 posted on 07/01/2012 11:26:09 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: advertising guy

Can’t wait great news new bud!


159 posted on 07/01/2012 11:27:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
I just watched fat candy and stuffy stephy both try and get jack lew to admit this was a tax but he just can’t do it.The Chicago mobsters know that’s the deathnell for the regime if they admit zerocare was nada but a tax.

It ought to be pointed out to these Obama aides that if it is not a tax then it is unconstitutional per the commerce clause--Roberts said so

This seems to me the basis for another SCOTUS case if they try to implement it as a NON TAX
160 posted on 07/01/2012 11:29:23 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: altura
I’m tired of speculation. I’m tired of Obama and the liberals. I’m tired of nobody caring about Holder being held in contempt.

Let's not forget the Security Leaks
What ever happened to that scandal
161 posted on 07/01/2012 11:31:07 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You make a good point about not wanting more federal interference, but GOP needs to define the alternative in ways that resonate. McConnell was totally ineffective in describing GOP health care proposition that would get any traction.


162 posted on 07/01/2012 11:47:55 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Alas Babylon!
Look what we miss when we don't watch Face the Nation:

CBS News: Roberts Was Going to Overturn obamacare But Changed His Mind

"CBS News broke a huge story on Sunday's Face the Nation concerning the Supreme Court's Thursday ruling on ObamaCare. ........
163 posted on 07/01/2012 11:50:13 AM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: uncbob

After listening to Chief of Staff Lew they are scared to death of being labeled as having passed the largest tax bill ever.the rats have Senators up for reelection if they have to run as big tax and spenders its over for some of them.


164 posted on 07/01/2012 11:59:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Just thought of something

Does it matter why it was voted to be Constitutional

Or

Can they just say it was ruled as such period

Roberts wrote the opinion that it was a tax but my understanding is the libs on the court used the commerce clause

If opinions set the precedent how can that be because he was the only one stating it

What a bag of worms


165 posted on 07/01/2012 12:04:33 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: lodi90

Now a tax is a penalty, you are penalized by threat of fine or jail if you don’t purchase the right plan you will go to jail. Yeah, that is better than saying tax.


166 posted on 07/01/2012 12:17:43 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: uncbob; acapesket; A.Hun; Aleya2Fairlie; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; ...
What a bag of worms

I agree wholeheartedly and because of this, it is really a very historic decision that will go down in history the way you explained it.

I believe Roberts really stepped on his... er, worm. History will say so. The Left will have their huzzah moment but after this wears off I think they'll have second thoughts. After a time, this decision will come to be a heinous one to them.

To us conservatives, it already is a heinous decision! That won't change over time.

Roberts decision will get picked apart by both the Left and the Right and go down as a very ill-advised and irrational argument--in other words, stupid.

So there, John, is your legacy. In the future, people will say of the Supremes, "Will they pull a Roberts?", meaning a bone-headed argument.

Now, eventually this will have to be revisited. Either a more conservative court will rescind it, or a more liberal one will reject it and put the mandate under the Commerce clause.

The one thing we'll as a people have control over is who we subsequently elect to office, and the pressure we bear on them to appoint judges to make the correct decisions.

So I'm not ready for the ammo box yet; we still get another chance to use the ballot box. If however, Obama is reelected then I will call on my very conservative state of Alabama, and other states of her thinking, to secede from the Union of Tyranny that has become the federal monster under Obamacare.

And yes, I am serious. Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere!

167 posted on 07/01/2012 1:38:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
...to secede from the Union of Tyranny that has become the federal monster under Obamacare.

That should read: to secede from the federal monster that has become a Union of Tyranny under Obamacare.

168 posted on 07/01/2012 1:41:45 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: lodi90

the day the SCOTUS ruling came out I was walking with a neighbor and was having an energetic discusssion about the ruling. Another person was walking near us and smiled. He then said, “I’m very happy with the ruling.”

I said, “Really????”
He answered “Yes, I want our healthcare to be like it is in Sweden.”

I was not in the mood to have a normal discussion so I just yelled back” Sweden doesn’t have 12 million illegals to put on their healthcare! Sweden is a lot smaller than the US.”
and I walked away in disgust.


169 posted on 07/01/2012 1:59:14 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: altura

OMG, not Pawlenty...he is such a whiner!

Ryan would be awesome!


170 posted on 07/01/2012 2:00:36 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Alas Babylon!

Brilliant and succinct! Awesome!


171 posted on 07/01/2012 2:03:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
He answered “Yes, I want our healthcare to be like it is in Sweden.”

When I get that dribble I ask the person if they would like to trade their house in for an apartment and socialized medicine. Then i hear crickets. I know many professional families in Europe that live in 800 sq. ft. flats. That is the reality of socialized medicine. Liberals believe in the fairy tale that they can have their socialized medicine cake and eat it to. No chance. Either the people or the government have the majority of the economic resources. No way to cut that baby in half.

172 posted on 07/01/2012 2:16:32 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: FreedBird

In other words are you better off than you were four years ago?


173 posted on 07/01/2012 4:05:50 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: uncbob

I think the DNC game plan will be to move on like Jack Lew was trying to do this morning. It’s their best option since they couldn’t defend obamacare before it became a tax and now its like garlic on a wooden cross hanging around their neck,burning a hole right into their flesh.


174 posted on 07/01/2012 4:09:18 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: uncbob

Good question. Spinmaster Lew is already trying his best to spin out of it being a tax saying you can call it whatever you want but so far everyone he told that to stephy,wall ass fat candy, told him to go pound sand and had a good laugh since they knew dam well what he was up to.


175 posted on 07/01/2012 4:13:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: lodi90

Ten bucks a litre for petrol,a 500 sq.ft flat,muzzies telling them what to do burning their tiny assed cars and no hope in sight. Wow, I envy Europe.


176 posted on 07/01/2012 4:18:12 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I agree. I really like Ryan.

But I just read some stuff that made me think he was leaning Pawlenty.

Ryan could really help Romney on the financial side.


177 posted on 07/01/2012 5:05:53 PM PDT by altura
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To: rodguy911

“3.Those who want to get rid of ozerocare have to explain how no one will lose any benefits that they have now.this has already been proven a lie as many are losing the coverage they have now since it gets too expensive under zero care.”

Yes - some things that Republicans HAVE to start widely educating the public about are: a) not only will millions NOT be able to keep the plan they have (which BHO lied about), but care will become more scarce (and rationed) due both to government panels and lack of providers; b) ALSO that Ozerocare contains half a trillion $ in Medicare CUTS as well as people’s taxes not only going way up for this fiasco but they’ll now double that increase; c) three of the biggest ways to cut health care costs is to allow us to shop across state lines (promotes competition), tort reform (limit sky-high lawsuit awards), and aggressively, seriously devote manpower and funds to go after waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid. Ozerocare does none of this; and d) start talking about more of the bad things in this law that have nothing to do with health care but will hit people hard such as the 3% real estate tax.

People really, really need educating - whenever and wherever possible. There are plenty of great arguments to slap the Dems down on - Republicans and conservatives with microphones just need to start doing it!


178 posted on 07/01/2012 5:48:15 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: rodguy911

Yep, the grass is not greener on the other side. Something liberals never learn.


179 posted on 07/01/2012 6:09:45 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

THANKS. GREAT WAY TO RESPOND....

I will wait for the criketts next time..ha.


180 posted on 07/01/2012 6:49:54 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Alas Babylon!

AB, I couldn’t agree more. I just finished reading the joint dissent by SCOTUS Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito. Brilliant job. The very OPPOSITE of “pulling a Roberts.

If—as we all want—Barky is defeated in November, what can be done to prevent a spiteful Obama from trying to do as much damage as he can during the lame duck session?


181 posted on 07/01/2012 8:44:09 PM PDT by CDB (Vote for regime change this November; Give Barky another Hawaiian vacation.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread AB. Could not participate due to power outages here. Time to seek alternate energy sources.


182 posted on 07/02/2012 4:00:36 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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