Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 1 July 2012
Posted on 07/01/2012 4:55:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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I didn’t watch any of it .... watched this instead:
It will be a cold day in hell before I’ll wave a white surrender flag to the likes of Dems/Libs/Progs/Obama/scumbag, lawless, Constitution-trampling politicians of any/every ilk.
“Artur Davis was one of the few this morning worth listening to....and he was a former Democrat.”
Agreed - I really like this guy and think we’ll be seeing more of him. Hope the Repub campaign utilizes him - he has real credibility when he tells his story of why & how he came to his senses and became a conservative. Plus, the Dems just hate that, which is a delight!
PS - He was the one who seconded BHO’s nomination at the Dem Convention in ‘08 - LOL.
Scary scenario that half the people are on the dole,spells disaster for the country. Lets hope it does not continue.
Playing ball and cutting deals.
Sheriff Joe is about to light Barry’s britches long and about July 27th
you’ll be able to see the smoke from your front porch
How much have the prices of our homes fallen under Obama?
What is the dollar worth? How much more money have we paid for gas at the pump? How much more are we charged for goods purchased? Now we will be taxed to pay for other people’s healthcare? Our pensions may be at risk. We may not even be able to talk to a doctor if we get sick.
Where are the promised jobs from stimulus? We all listen to the Administration and MSM lie and spin everyday.
Interesting...I did not know that about Artur Davis. Thanks!
Just watched Jack Lew again...,on FNC with Wall Ass. He's loaded with dem chatting points used now on every show he has been on.
Here's some of them:
1. Health care benefits are here now. Meanwhile Paul Ryan on another show has already agreed we will keep the popular ones and we don't have to reinvent govt. to do it.
2.Forget the tax word lets get on with the implementation of it.They are scared of calling obamcare a tax
3.Those who want to get rid of ozerocare have to explain how no one will lose any benefits that they have now.this has already been proven a lie as many are losing the coverage they have now since it gets too expensive under zero care.
4.You have to buy it before you try it.More piglosi logic
5.You can tell the dems are scared sh_tless about having to call obamcare a tax it kills ozeros big pledge of those under 250k not having to pay more taxes.This is a biggie.
6.We have cut taxes 50 zillion times,they use this one every show. Its minuscule tax cuts with much bigger hits everywhere in spending that are never mentioned.
7.Only 1% will ever pay the penalties...More BS no telling how many will pay or lose their insurance.
8.Its constitutional does not matter what you call it. They will do or say anything but the word tax--it really scares them.
It's clear that lews big job today is to prevent anyone from calling ozerocare a tax. They are scared to death about that happening. If we are smart we will keep calling it a tax.
Can’t wait great news new bud!
You make a good point about not wanting more federal interference, but GOP needs to define the alternative in ways that resonate. McConnell was totally ineffective in describing GOP health care proposition that would get any traction.
After listening to Chief of Staff Lew they are scared to death of being labeled as having passed the largest tax bill ever.the rats have Senators up for reelection if they have to run as big tax and spenders its over for some of them.
Just thought of something
Does it matter why it was voted to be Constitutional
Can they just say it was ruled as such period
Roberts wrote the opinion that it was a tax but my understanding is the libs on the court used the commerce clause
If opinions set the precedent how can that be because he was the only one stating it
What a bag of worms
Now a tax is a penalty, you are penalized by threat of fine or jail if you don’t purchase the right plan you will go to jail. Yeah, that is better than saying tax.
I agree wholeheartedly and because of this, it is really a very historic decision that will go down in history the way you explained it.
I believe Roberts really stepped on his... er, worm. History will say so. The Left will have their huzzah moment but after this wears off I think they'll have second thoughts. After a time, this decision will come to be a heinous one to them.
To us conservatives, it already is a heinous decision! That won't change over time.
Roberts decision will get picked apart by both the Left and the Right and go down as a very ill-advised and irrational argument--in other words, stupid.
So there, John, is your legacy. In the future, people will say of the Supremes, "Will they pull a Roberts?", meaning a bone-headed argument.
Now, eventually this will have to be revisited. Either a more conservative court will rescind it, or a more liberal one will reject it and put the mandate under the Commerce clause.
The one thing we'll as a people have control over is who we subsequently elect to office, and the pressure we bear on them to appoint judges to make the correct decisions.
So I'm not ready for the ammo box yet; we still get another chance to use the ballot box. If however, Obama is reelected then I will call on my very conservative state of Alabama, and other states of her thinking, to secede from the Union of Tyranny that has become the federal monster under Obamacare.
And yes, I am serious. Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere!
That should read: to secede from the federal monster that has become a Union of Tyranny under Obamacare.
the day the SCOTUS ruling came out I was walking with a neighbor and was having an energetic discusssion about the ruling. Another person was walking near us and smiled. He then said, “I’m very happy with the ruling.”
I said, “Really????”
He answered “Yes, I want our healthcare to be like it is in Sweden.”
I was not in the mood to have a normal discussion so I just yelled back” Sweden doesn’t have 12 million illegals to put on their healthcare! Sweden is a lot smaller than the US.”
and I walked away in disgust.
OMG, not Pawlenty...he is such a whiner!
Ryan would be awesome!
Brilliant and succinct! Awesome!
When I get that dribble I ask the person if they would like to trade their house in for an apartment and socialized medicine. Then i hear crickets. I know many professional families in Europe that live in 800 sq. ft. flats. That is the reality of socialized medicine. Liberals believe in the fairy tale that they can have their socialized medicine cake and eat it to. No chance. Either the people or the government have the majority of the economic resources. No way to cut that baby in half.
In other words are you better off than you were four years ago?
I think the DNC game plan will be to move on like Jack Lew was trying to do this morning. It’s their best option since they couldn’t defend obamacare before it became a tax and now its like garlic on a wooden cross hanging around their neck,burning a hole right into their flesh.
Good question. Spinmaster Lew is already trying his best to spin out of it being a tax saying you can call it whatever you want but so far everyone he told that to stephy,wall ass fat candy, told him to go pound sand and had a good laugh since they knew dam well what he was up to.
Ten bucks a litre for petrol,a 500 sq.ft flat,muzzies telling them what to do burning their tiny assed cars and no hope in sight. Wow, I envy Europe.
I agree. I really like Ryan.
But I just read some stuff that made me think he was leaning Pawlenty.
Ryan could really help Romney on the financial side.
“3.Those who want to get rid of ozerocare have to explain how no one will lose any benefits that they have now.this has already been proven a lie as many are losing the coverage they have now since it gets too expensive under zero care.”
Yes - some things that Republicans HAVE to start widely educating the public about are: a) not only will millions NOT be able to keep the plan they have (which BHO lied about), but care will become more scarce (and rationed) due both to government panels and lack of providers; b) ALSO that Ozerocare contains half a trillion $ in Medicare CUTS as well as people’s taxes not only going way up for this fiasco but they’ll now double that increase; c) three of the biggest ways to cut health care costs is to allow us to shop across state lines (promotes competition), tort reform (limit sky-high lawsuit awards), and aggressively, seriously devote manpower and funds to go after waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid. Ozerocare does none of this; and d) start talking about more of the bad things in this law that have nothing to do with health care but will hit people hard such as the 3% real estate tax.
People really, really need educating - whenever and wherever possible. There are plenty of great arguments to slap the Dems down on - Republicans and conservatives with microphones just need to start doing it!
Yep, the grass is not greener on the other side. Something liberals never learn.
THANKS. GREAT WAY TO RESPOND....
I will wait for the criketts next time..ha.
AB, I couldn’t agree more. I just finished reading the joint dissent by SCOTUS Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito. Brilliant job. The very OPPOSITE of “pulling a Roberts.
If—as we all want—Barky is defeated in November, what can be done to prevent a spiteful Obama from trying to do as much damage as he can during the lame duck session?
Thanks for thread AB. Could not participate due to power outages here. Time to seek alternate energy sources.