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Liberals emboldened by ObamaCare: raise taxes to 70%, cut the military
Straight Dope ^

Posted on 07/01/2012 11:52:14 AM PDT by CurtisL601

The liberals are crowing about Robert's defection over on the "Straight Dope" message board where they "fight ignorance" by parroting socialist dogma and bashing the South. As they gloat, they betray the lie that ObamaCare is anything but the first step in complete government takeover.

"We really should have let the Confederacy go back in 1861.

Then we should have nuked them after 1945."

"Wouldn't be any problem if we had a progressive/redistributive income-tax system like we had until the 1980s, but with no loopholes, if you're in the 70% bracket you actually pay 70%."

"Give me some time and I can expand the checklist. While we're at it, cut recruitment by 30%, and cut overseas deployments by at least 1.5x that (did you know we have over 1000 bases around the world? Wtf for?) Overall we could cut $500 billion from the annual defense budget without any increase to the chances of us or our allies being defeated.

If you are concerned about spending, Always Start With The Military. Nothing wastes more of our money for less return."

Remember this the next time the liberals pretend to be outraged when we call a spade a spade.


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1 posted on 07/01/2012 11:52:20 AM PDT by CurtisL601
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To: CurtisL601

Maybe we could talk those idiots into a 3-way vertical partition of the US, they keep atlantica and pacifica, and we can keep the gulf and heartland.

They get uppity, we can starve them out.


2 posted on 07/01/2012 11:55:23 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: CurtisL601

They are truly vicious, vile people. Make a long story short (I’ll post it later), in a dream I had, President Reagan told me the only way to deal with the moonbats is just say, “Oh, just shut up!”


3 posted on 07/01/2012 11:55:57 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Justice Roberts knows the Constitution as much as the hominids know about the Monolith in "2001")
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To: CurtisL601

Straight Dope?...well they got the “Dope” right... but “Straight”?


4 posted on 07/01/2012 11:59:15 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: GraceG

Atlantica can keep the european bases, pacifica the east asian bases, and the heartland (Real USA) can protect Israel.

Win-win! And when China takes Pacifica the Heartland can take back Pacifica, and when europe blows up it is Atlantica’s baby.

I think we NEED to partition the USA into at least three countries. If we sell it right to the liberals they will think it is their idea to “get rid of the flyover country” when actually we will be ridding ourselves of the liberals. Maybe we could even talk a of the more conservative middle canadian provinces into joining up with us along with alaska.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 12:01:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Idealistically, they think they have us surrounded. Realistically, we have them backed up to the water's edge with nowhere to go but swimming. Think about it.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


6 posted on 07/01/2012 12:28:54 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you're gonna hang out in places like this, wear a badge on your didey.")
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To: GraceG

They will be on a sushi diet forever.


7 posted on 07/01/2012 12:49:08 PM PDT by bergmeid (Leftism kills babies and economies. Leftism is truly a DEAD END.)
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To: CurtisL601

ObamaKare is not the first step toward a government takeover but it is certainly a big step.

Think about the takeover of the education system by the government and their conversion of schools into indoctrination centers.

Think about the use of schools and school systems as “meal centers” for school age children, even when schools are out of session.

There are so many other instances of government taking control of our lives that real individual freedom in America is, at best, only a vague memory for most Americans.

Government agencies, primarily the federal government, are gradually positioning themselves to replace parents as the source of security, information and safety in the eyes of children.

The USA has become the modern day replacement of the USSR.


8 posted on 07/01/2012 12:55:51 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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This just shows how stupid liberals are. Nuke the south in 1945? And just where does this moron think the rest of the country would it’s food.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 1:00:30 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: GraceG
I think we NEED to partition the USA into at least three countries. If we sell it right to the liberals they will think it is their idea to “get rid of the flyover country” when actually we will be ridding ourselves of the liberals. Maybe we could even talk a of the more conservative middle canadian provinces into joining up with us along with Alaska.

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You have just said what I have been thinking for months. I would welcome a Union with Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Our country is too divided to stand together now, they will leech off of us and berate us now until the system collapses like Argentina or Greece.

I predicate the hour of separation of fast approaching.

10 posted on 07/01/2012 1:07:57 PM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: tophat9000

Typical liberals, they can’t see their own hypocrasy. Here is a thread where they accuse the Tea Party of treason for opposing the new health care law.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657082

Welcome to the USA here are your officially allowed opinions.


11 posted on 07/01/2012 1:26:22 PM PDT by CurtisL601
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To: Iron Munro

Amen! (While I’m still allowed to say that in public.)


12 posted on 07/01/2012 1:26:33 PM PDT by CurtisL601
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To: CurtisL601

Think about it.

In today’s military you can say the Lord’s Name in vain all you want, but a military chaplain can’t pray using the Lord’s Name.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 1:45:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: CurtisL601
They claim to have been in business since 1973.

How could that be? Al Gore, Jr., didn't get to Congress until 1977 so he hadn't invented the internet yet as of 1973.

14 posted on 07/01/2012 4:16:52 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: GraceG

We have to dump Chicago, Detroit and Madison, WI, though. E. St. Louis, too. And Cleveland.


15 posted on 07/01/2012 4:20:23 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Iron Munro

This is certainly all according to the party bell, around these parts.

However people have to be paid.

People are either paid by someone who pays them to work, or they are paid by someone who pays them to sit around.

We have given our jobs away. What do we propose to do with the people? They have to eat.

Let’s bring BACK the jobs, and lay off foreigners.

That’s just me. But eventually a few others will start to see we’ve bitten off exactly what we cannot chew.


16 posted on 07/01/2012 4:25:38 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m a military chaplain and I pray in Jesus’ name all the time.


17 posted on 07/01/2012 9:01:19 PM PDT by bethelgrad
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To: CurtisL601
(did you know we have over 1000 bases around the world? Wtf for?)

Where are these ding bats coming up with these numbers?

Even if you throw in NG bases and JO bases we don't have a 1000 bases.

18 posted on 07/01/2012 9:13:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Demons run when a good man goes to war)
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To: bethelgrad

I thought they had that restriction on you. Maybe another branch?


19 posted on 07/02/2012 10:19:02 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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