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Scott says Florida won't implement health care law [Govs Walker, Perry and Jindal concur)
Tampa Bay Times ^ | July 1, 2012 | Tia Mitchell

Posted on 07/01/2012 11:59:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go Texas and Governor Perry!


101 posted on 07/01/2012 10:37:29 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Salvation

I can just imagine Obama is discussing on ways to force passing motorists through any ObamaTaxcare state to pay a “passage” fee.

Those states will also have an exodus, ghost towns will arise, it will be a mass migration to evade the spreading stain of the Obamataxcare.

the poor, the homeless, the sick will flock to any of the pro-care states thus overwhelming what meager health facilitries still in operation.

Throw in an epidemic and then you truly have an apocalyptic scenario.


102 posted on 07/01/2012 10:44:52 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: TigerClaws

If they really want to stick a symbolic knife in the federal G, do not allow federal with holdings from paychecks and create a pool of money to do the things the federal gangsta does not..just say no to the federal gangsta..states first, de fang the federal “g”


103 posted on 07/02/2012 4:30:27 AM PDT by aces
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To: A'elian' nation
I do believe Virginia has a bit of history going it alone.

Damn right we do.

104 posted on 07/02/2012 6:19:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: TigerClaws

If they withhold highway funds then that matter would end up in the SC. In meantime I guess the state cod refuse to send in federal gasoline tax money in retaliation but that sounds pretty ugly.

I am not sure we have seen such fighting between states and feds in a long time.


105 posted on 07/02/2012 6:57:49 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: TigerClaws

They can’t. If you read the opinion, this is one thing that it is pretty clear that the Federal Government cannot do. If they cannot take away the existing medicaid funding from a state for failure to implement the new expansion, they certainly can’t take away funding that is entirely distinct from the medicaid program.


106 posted on 07/02/2012 7:04:48 AM PDT by George189
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To: George189

Or what?

Executive Order trumps federal law and Court rulings. Imperial Presidency is here. DOJ will go after those that don’t submit.


107 posted on 07/02/2012 8:59:49 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: varina davis

I hope so, too. I live in Florida.

Has it really come to this ?


108 posted on 07/02/2012 1:00:42 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......)
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To: lgjhn23

It’s Oklahoma and we have passed a contitutional amendment that prohibits participation in Obamacare.


109 posted on 07/02/2012 1:09:33 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2012/06/perry-i%e2%80%99m-not-on-the-ballot-this-november-but-i-will-be-campaigning-like-i-am/

EMAIL From Gov Perry :

After yesterday’s 5-4 decision by the United States Supreme Court, I am more concerned than ever about the direction of our country. The Court’s decision, dressed up in legalese, is simply a betrayal of our constitutional liberties.

Yesterday, they said Congress and the Executive could tax you for not purchasing an insurance product. In other words, you can be fined for exercising freedom.

If you’re mad, please know I share your anger. But I have always believed that the wholesale repeal of ObamaCare would not happen in the courtroom, but at the ballot box.

Yesterday the Supreme Court reminded us how important voting is. They gave deference to a law that would have never passed had the Republican brand not become so tarnished by 12 years of excess spending and scandal.

Yesterday, we paid the highest price yet for surrendering our majority for a few short years.

Well, I say it’s time to take our country back. If you agree, I ask for a contribution of $250, $100, $50 or $25.

I’m not on the ballot this November, but I will be campaigning like I am because we can’t afford four more years of a president who wants to abridge our freedom on the altar of bureaucracy.

We will not suffer silently in the face of federal encroachment. We will re-double our efforts to take our country back, to repeal every last word of ObamaCare, and to re-institute both a love and respect for the 10th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Now, more than ever, we need to elect conservatives who abide by these words:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

God Bless,

Rick Perry


110 posted on 07/02/2012 3:45:51 PM PDT by baysider
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To: Jane Long

If anyone pings you with quotes from Perry on ACA, can you ping me? Thanks!


111 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:26 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: TigerClaws

States need to simply stop sending money to the feds, keep THEIR money and flip the bird to big bro.


112 posted on 07/02/2012 4:21:33 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Anyone but Obama in 2012.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Called a local radio station today in south Florida that reported RS was “back pedaling” on a promise to implement OBAMACARE if the court ruled for it.

The young punk insisted the court did rule for Obama care and that it didn’t matter that states could opt out of expanding Medicaid, he thought Scott was still backpedaling. I told the little moron Scott’s position was consistent with the Court’s ruling.


113 posted on 07/02/2012 4:41:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: HushTX

Will do...and vice versa...please ping me if you get any pings/info on Perry/ACA implementation. I would love to hear him come out and say we’re not implementing this craptax sandwich.


114 posted on 07/02/2012 4:46:48 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: HushTX

On a side note...AG Greg Abbott is holding a tele-townhall at this minute to discuss the SCOTUS ObammyCareTax ruling. I didn’t get home in time to log on...so I’ll try and find out what he has to say about all this.


115 posted on 07/02/2012 4:51:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too bad Rick Perry doesn’t oppose the federal No Child Left Behind.


116 posted on 07/02/2012 7:14:44 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here are some words from the Founding generation on the importance of "the People" and the States:

"I do not think it for the interest of the General Government itself, and still less of the Union at large, that the State governments should be so little respected as they have been. However, I dare say that in time all these as well as their central government, like the planets revolving round their common sun, acting and acted upon according to their respective weights and distances, will produce that beautiful equilibrium on which our Constitution is founded, and which I believe it will exhibit to the world in a degree of perfection, unexampled but in the planetary system itself. The enlightened statesman, therefore, will endeavor to preserve the weight and influence of every part, as too much given any member of it would destroy the general equilibrium." --Thomas Jefferson to Peregrine Fitzhugh, 1798. ME 10:3

"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278

"If Caesar had been as virtuous as he was daring and sagacious, what could he, even in the plenitude of his usurped power, have done to lead his fellow citizens into good government?... If their people indeed had been, like ourselves, enlightened, peaceable, and really free, the answer would be obvious. 'Restore independence to all your foreign conquests, relieve Italy from the government of the rabble of Rome, consult it as a nation entitled to self-government, and do its will.' But steeped in corruption, vice and venality, as the whole nation was,... what could even Cicero, Cato, Brutus have done, had it been referred to them to establish a good government for their country?... No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and their people were so demoralized and depraved as to be incapable of exercising a wholesome control. Their reformation then was to be taken up ab incunabulis. Their minds were to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and deterred from those of vice by the dread of punishments proportioned, indeed, but irremissible; in all cases, to follow truth as the only safe guide, and to eschew error, which bewilders us in one false consequence after another in endless succession. These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure of order and good government. . . . --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1819. ME 15:233

"An enlightened people, and an energetic public opinion... will control and enchain the aristocratic spirit of the government." --Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814. ME 14:130

"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820.

"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

"Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, the people, if well informed, may be relied on to set them to rights." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

From James Madison:

"Although all men are born free, and all nations might be so, yet too true it is, that slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant – they have been cheated; asleep – they have been surprised; divided – the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?... The people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it."

"A well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people."

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."

"To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea."

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court even can do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

117 posted on 07/03/2012 7:29:50 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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