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America's Generation Y not driven to drive
Yahoo/Reuters ^ | 07/01/2012 | Deborah Zabarenko

Posted on 07/01/2012 1:58:15 PM PDT by nascarnation

Bigger than the post-World War Two baby-boom generation but without the middle-class expansion that drove the earlier group's consumer habits, Generation Y includes an increasing number of people for whom driving is less an American rite of passage than an unnecessary chore.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: auto; driving; generationy
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This is SO different from the 60s. Hard to believe a smartphone could replace a Mustang convertible....
1 posted on 07/01/2012 1:58:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Todays youth are useless for anything other than paying taxes and agreeing to nanny state domination of society.


2 posted on 07/01/2012 1:59:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: nascarnation

I compare my childhood in the ‘50’s with that of today. It brings a tear to my eye, but worse, there’s no way to communicate it to the youth of today. It is a good time to be old.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 2:02:31 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: nascarnation

Heh. Doesn’t matter what kind of motor you have under the hood in a traffic jam. And nowadays you have six-cylinder Mustangs with over 300 horses . . .


4 posted on 07/01/2012 2:04:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: BenLurkin

Yep, gotta agree with this article.

It has nothing to do with the fact that they have to get a learner’s license now, and you can’t get a full license in some states until you’re 21.

Back in the day when dinosaurs roamed the earth, you could test at 16 and get your full license and away you go. But that was the Boomer age - today, boomers didn’t think their kids should have the freedom they had, so they don’t.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 2:05:32 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Zero's Li'l Wussies

BOO!


6 posted on 07/01/2012 2:06:26 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: nascarnation

Between massive unemployment, spiking taxes and sticker prices shooting up to feed the unions, who can afford a car?


7 posted on 07/01/2012 2:07:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: I see my hands

Nowadays they have small blocks (pushrod too!) with more horsepower than the big blocks of that age. I’ve often wondered what kind of horsepower a big block would have with modern tuned-port injection and other fancy stuff on it . . . we already know what kind of torque it’d have.


8 posted on 07/01/2012 2:09:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
nowadays you have six-cylinder Mustangs with over 300 horses

I don't understand your comment?

those six-cylinder Stangs get great gas mileage too - 30 mpg. Wouldn't that make them even MORE attractive to drive?

This article is about kids shunning cars.

9 posted on 07/01/2012 2:09:19 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Nanny cars, traffic cameras, GPS, strict OWI laws, parents willing to host their children’s sex indulgences - no reason for kids to like driving a car these days.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 2:12:14 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nascarnation

Not surprising, considering the economic realities facing our youth. Have you priced used vehicles, gas, and insurance recently?

Environmental and safety regulations have driven up the costs of cars, as well as the cost of their manufacture. Insurance rates for teen drivers are downright terrifying. Gas, while thankfully dropping like about every other commodity and potential investment vehicle, is still damned high.

Hell, even the laws regarding teen drivers have changed since you were kids. Some states don’t allow drivers under the age of 18 to drive after dark, or with more than one passenger in the car, or have other restrictions on driving that severely limit the usefulness of a driver’s license to a teenager.

As comforting as it might be for you to think that today’s youth are just totally worthless, the fact of the matter is decades of liberalism have been industriously chipping away at the foundations of the American way of life, and as a result our youth today are having to contend with a world that’s quite a bit different economically and socially than the one you grew up in. Many of the things that you enjoyed or even considered part and parcel of simply being an American are just not within feasible reach of today’s generation.


11 posted on 07/01/2012 2:13:00 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: nascarnation

My 15 yo daughter has no desire to get a license. My friends are having the same problem with their kids not wanting a drivers license, just hoping that their parents will always be there to run them to the mall.

I have answered this little problem with the fact that I refuse to drive her anyplace that is not on the way or at a time that is convenient for me.

The best part is that I personally do not drive a car for most trips. I ride a bike unless it is absolutely necessary to take the car.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 2:16:08 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: nascarnation
Best car song ever?

Maybe.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 2:16:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: jameslalor
As comforting as it might be for you to think that today’s youth are just totally worthless

Where did I say that?

14 posted on 07/01/2012 2:18:17 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Yeah...no back seat with a smartphone. :-)


15 posted on 07/01/2012 2:20:49 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: nascarnation

Just saying that base model Mustangs of today (which are still relatively affordable to this “generation” that are too “lazy” to get a license) have more horses than the small blocks of years ago. As far as the topic goes, looks to me like more high school/college brainwashing.


16 posted on 07/01/2012 2:22:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nascarnation

My mistake, I thought I clicked on the button to reply to BenLurkin. No offense meant!


17 posted on 07/01/2012 2:23:49 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Tzimisce

If you remember, Obama burned all the old cars so these kids have nothing that they can afford.


18 posted on 07/01/2012 2:24:40 PM PDT by willyd
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To: nascarnation
Kids are dumb.

How about a boat that looks like a car?

Or a car that looks like a boat?

Or a ?


19 posted on 07/01/2012 2:25:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Olog-hai

http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ572-720R-Deluxe.php


20 posted on 07/01/2012 2:25:15 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Back in the day when dinosaurs roamed the earth, you could test at 16 and get your full license and away you go. But that was the Boomer age............

In CA in the 60's, you could get a learners permit at 15 1/2, which would allow you to ride a mororcycle alone or drive a car with someone over 18.

21 posted on 07/01/2012 2:26:57 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Zeppelin

22 posted on 07/01/2012 2:27:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: willyd

Yeah, Baraq’s Cash for Clunkers.

Another European “great idea” imported by the Chicago mob to reward the UAW.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 2:28:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jameslalor

Kids these days are no dumber than generations before.

My best friend’s son has joined the Air Force and is serving honorably. As are a large portion of my kids’ classmates. My daughter (20) is newly married and starting her career in the medical field and my son (18) is busting his butt 60 hours a week as a machinist.

The older generations have always decried the younger generations. Then these kids grow up and do the same thing.

There are a LOT of great kids out there who were raised right and who are struggling (just as we did) to find their way in the world.

But THIS young generation has to deal with an uncertain future. When we were coming into our own, we had several clear paths that would lead us to stability. These kids don’t have that. College is no longer a guarantee of a good job. (And I’m not talking about ‘throwaway’ degrees like “feminist studies”. I’m talking engineering and computer programming.) With the coming draw-down, the military won’t be as available. Family farms and businesses that have been around for generations are dying at an alarming rate. Manufacturing is being moved offshore. The oil and natural gas industries are being crippled by Obama and the EPA. These were areas where many a young man found good work without a degree.

We are living in an economy where a large portion of established adults are struggling. There are no more guarantees.

Yeah they’re scared.

I’m proud to say that my daughter is a member of the Tea Party. She is educated and loud and she votes.

My son is so focused on making himself invaluable in the oil industry that he doesn’t do much more than work and sleep. He plans on being securely employed and earning a decent living within the next three years.

So I agree with you.

As for the ones who seem lost right now...?

They’re still young. Every generation has plenty of slow learners.


24 posted on 07/01/2012 2:34:40 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: JCBreckenridge

What’s interesting is that back in the ‘Boomer days’ you keep grousing about, a 30yo wasn’t considered a youngster, but a full adult.

Intergenerational resentments used to be individual and particular to whatever family member was being resented for whatever reason. Those specific resentments now seem to be repressed, with the emotion coming out against said parents’ whole generational cohort, perhaps as a result.


26 posted on 07/01/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jjotto

I know one long term goal of statists like Baraq is to get people out of cars (hard to control) and into public transportation (more easily controlled).

It appears they have loaded so many straws on the camel’s back it may be working...


27 posted on 07/01/2012 2:39:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Zeppelin

Four-barrel carb too, eh . . . ? Wouldn’t mind having the dough to spare to drop that into my 1995 Caprice.


28 posted on 07/01/2012 2:40:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nascarnation

They can’t afford a union made car. Case closed.


30 posted on 07/01/2012 2:43:35 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: nascarnation

What’s up with that???

It’s like my kids are a different species!


31 posted on 07/01/2012 2:44:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1258 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Olog-hai

No kidding!

I’m seriously thinking about putting one in my ‘97 Z28...but that’ll be a couple years out.

In the meantime, my ‘07 Corvette Convertible will have to suffice.

(I bought that Vette two years ago, when I was 25 y/o. I guess I buck the trend of youth disinterested in cars... =P)


32 posted on 07/01/2012 2:44:39 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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They can’t afford a union made car.

Aren't there a lot of non-union made cars sold in the US every year? (Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai, Subaru, Kia, etc)

33 posted on 07/01/2012 2:46:29 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

I don’t see this.

males are always driving for fun.

women not so much.

could this also be part of the ongoing ticket quotas (any statement to the contrary is a lie)


34 posted on 07/01/2012 2:50:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nascarnation

I don’t see why driving is considered an indicator of “freedom” these days. What with punitive taxes, insurance costs, soon to be mandatory black boxes, limited licenses etc I don’t see it as being anything more than a pain for the younger set.

HOWEVER I saw something on the freeway the other day I had never seen before: a guy driving a truck without a license plate. Instead there was a plate that said “if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” But no plate. He was meticulously staying within the speeding laws giving no reason to stop him. Other than the lack of a plate. It made me wonder. If someone were to decide to purchase some clunker for cash, refuse to insure, title, or plate it, what could the state really do? Do the cops really want the hassle particularly if the person is violating no traffic laws?


35 posted on 07/01/2012 2:52:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Thank you Chief Justice Benedict Arnold!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Last I checked the article was calling the ‘youngsters’ worthless and lazy.

Only when someone states the facts - that boomers have changed things drastically, do people get their dander up. Odd that.

Yeah, it’s a fact that boomers have passed laws restricting when kids can get their license, and restricting when they can drive and where. And then they wonder why the kids don’t want to drive anymore...


36 posted on 07/01/2012 2:54:34 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: umgud

I’m just old enough to get in under the change. Driven for 14 years, they changed it the year after to make kids wait until 18 for learners and 21 for full.

I’m surprised the boomers haven’t raised the voting age yet.


37 posted on 07/01/2012 2:56:14 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Dallas59

Not defending labor or unions but the sticker price of a car is made up of many things, material cost, admin cost etc. The cost of labor is at most 10%. So a $20K you pay about $2K for labor. Even if robots or slaves built the cars a $20K would still cost $18K. There are a lot of misconceptions out there.


38 posted on 07/01/2012 3:04:14 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tzimisce

Horsepower means little. It is torque that is king off the line and only cubes and / or compression make torque.

Compression is what made the Buick Grand National a contender. 21 lbs of boost on a 3.8 liter engine as I recall. Fast off the line and through the finish line.


39 posted on 07/01/2012 3:04:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: gorush

“I compare my childhood in the ‘50’s with that of today. It brings a tear to my eye, but worse, there’s no way to communicate it to the youth of today. It is a good time to be old.”

Pitiful: People across the street were having a party. There were a lot of newish compact cars and CUV’s parked. These were actually kids having a party with mom+pop out of the house. The cars belonged to all of their parents!

When I was in high school, you would have more cred driving in your own $500 beater than in mom and dad’s station wagon, particularly if you were a young man.

No question at all, the “world” of young people today is going to be much, much smaller and poorer than ours was. Mobility was the great advantage of the American workforce over everyone else. Now, not so much.


40 posted on 07/01/2012 3:08:46 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: gorush
I can sympathize, even though my childhood was in the 1970s and 1980s.

Instead of getting into a pointless discussion on this thread about the intelligence or other attributes of Generation Y, I'd offer something else for everyone to consider, in light of a conversation I've had with some of these Gen-Y folks in my company ...

Maybe a lot of younger people aren't interested in getting a driver's license because their parents never cultivated a desire to go out and drive somewhere?

41 posted on 07/01/2012 3:09:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: nascarnation

Driving interferes with texting.


42 posted on 07/01/2012 3:10:15 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: I see my hands

My 70 is collecting dust unfortunately..sniff:-(


43 posted on 07/01/2012 3:11:58 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: pennyfarmer

“I have answered this little problem with the fact that I refuse to drive her anyplace that is not on the way or at a time that is convenient for me.”

Ha ha, my dad was such a PITA, he would moan and groan whenever he had to pick me up/take me to work (three miles away) when it was raining or snowing (couldn’t bike there). I never bothered to ask him again the day after I bought my car (at a little over 16 years of age). Of course, now, that would be impossible for a young person to do unless they are a dot-com cashout. Insurance was very tough when I was a kid. Now, it’s basically impossible at any price if it’s not on your family insurance.


44 posted on 07/01/2012 3:14:37 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: nascarnation
I know one long term goal of statists like Baraq is to get people out of cars (hard to control) and into public transportation (more easily controlled).

They are willing to wait until the older generation - who is not very malleable in its approach to freedom of movement - either dies out (thanks to rationed healthcare) or simply loses positions of authority. The newer generation is already indoctrinated to entrust all their secret thoughts to Twitbook, carry an iPhone with GPS that reports back to the mothership, and ride a bus (or a bicycle.) Since youngsters do not earn much they are not paying much taxes either, which helps with the early adoption of the new cabal. Older people will be relegated to chasing kids off of their lawns.

A nation without cars will be an imprisoned nation. Perhaps this is not so in densely populated Europe. However this country is large. In case of any "unfortunate events" the public transit will be shut down, and then peasants can't enter or leave the "affected area" until the army - that has access to every form of transport - is done with "the problem."

45 posted on 07/01/2012 3:17:01 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Marie

“We are living in an economy where a large portion of established adults are struggling. There are no more guarantees.”

Best statement yet. The previous gnerations including the current living elders created a mess. Even the middle aged are finding things not so easy anymore. Toss in the fact that kids have been taught less and less and the current younger generation has no idea how to act, your children being some of the exceptions to that view.


46 posted on 07/01/2012 3:19:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: nascarnation
This is SO different from the 60s. Hard to believe a smartphone could replace a Mustang convertible....

I live in a college town and see numerous mustangs, camaros and challengers on the road.

47 posted on 07/01/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: nascarnation

I think this is media hooey. The only reason for young people to not drive is money. If they’ve got money, it is a priority to get wheels, no matter what the media says.

Much of it has to do with mating: girls think a boy’s car says a lot about him: his wealth, style, employment; and they want a car so they don’t have to ride in cars with boys if there are no good prospects. Boys are intensely aware of the status of cars, and the freedom they offer, as well as convenience.

“My opinion is that the media is the main
supporter of healthy eating. We’re certainly
not hearing it from our customers”
— Andrew Puzder, CEO of Hardee’s and Carl’s Jr.


48 posted on 07/01/2012 3:29:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: gorush
...It is a good time to be old.

Darn tootin'. With any amount of luck we'll be out of here when the SHTF, and it will, and it won't be pretty.

49 posted on 07/01/2012 3:31:31 PM PDT by OldPossum ( "it's" is the contraction of either "it is" or "it has"; "its" is the possessive pronoun)
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To: jjotto
parents willing to host their children’s sex indulgences

Plus, backseats are now made for midgets.

50 posted on 07/01/2012 3:33:38 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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