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Pelosi: ObamaCare a Penalty That Comes Under Tax Code
Townhall.com ^ | July 1, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/01/2012 5:15:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

What? The former Speaker is saying ObamaCare is a penalty, not a tax, that is enforced by the tax code...or something.

Gregory: Is it a tax?

Pelosi: No no, no no.

Pelosi: Right, ObamaCare Is Constitutional Under Taxing Power

Is this what Pelosi meant by "passing the bill to see what's in it?" The Supreme Court saw what was in ObamaCare, ruled it a tax, and she, along with top White House officials, are saying it's a tax. It is very clear the Democrats have their talking points together.

And yet, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is accusing Republicans of being deceptive about the "Affordable Care Act."

"When it came to championing the health care legislation, President Obama made sure that al though everybody -- the vast majority of Americans have health insurance coverage, we want to make sure that if you're a free rider, if you roll the dice and get sick and use the emergency room as your primary access point for health care. Those health care costs are going to get shifted to all of us. And if you choose not to carry health insurance, this legislation says you're going to pay a small penalty so that we don't have to pay for you rolling the dice," DNC chair and Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said on MSNBC today.

"That's what the health care reform law says and the Republicans are engaging in deception if they say anything else," she said.

Pelosi also claimed during the interview that repeal of ObamaTax is unrealistic.

Minority leader Nancy Pelosi says House Democrats are happy to debate dismantling Obamacare, but repeal is unrealistic.

Pelosi says the act puts people "in charge of how they receive coverage and health care."

She said Republicans "will ask for repeal, repeal of all the things ... that help children, help young adults, help seniors, help men or women who may have prostate cancer, breast cancer, whatever it is, any precondition. And everybody will have lower rates, better quality care and better access."

"So that's what they want to repeal," she said. "we're happy to have that debate."



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: obamacaredecision; obamacaremandate; obamacaretax; pelosi
Naturally the Botox witch from San Francisco is spinning again
1 posted on 07/01/2012 5:15:27 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
If I goof up on my taxes and have to pay a penalty it is still a tax penalty! Clean out your ears Pleaosi!
2 posted on 07/01/2012 5:18:55 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Kaslin
Eww. I like it. Commiecare™ is a penalty. Pay or go to jail.

Is this why Pelosi exempted herself?

3 posted on 07/01/2012 5:19:46 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Of course, what else


4 posted on 07/01/2012 5:22:31 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Failure to comply is thoughtcrime.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 5:26:06 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Libloather

My take is that it is the old Debtor’s Prison tactics. What happens if you can’t or won’t pay the tax? Is there any way that congress can shut down the IRS division that will be involved in the OCare Tax? Are there ways of getting rid of this because it was declared a Tax? It doesn’t matter what they say about it being a penalty. What is the provision where they are exempt from putting this in the tax code.


6 posted on 07/01/2012 5:26:09 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Kaslin

The single payer system is something that the far left commies have been dreaming about for years and years. This was NEVER about health care, this is about power and control. They want to be able to control who lives and who dies, controlling people’s health care is the ultimate power trip to these commie freaks


7 posted on 07/01/2012 5:27:40 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kaslin

“puts people ‘in charge...’”

Yes. Overlords do that


8 posted on 07/01/2012 5:27:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Kaslin

What happens to the waivers? This has been declared a Tax. The waivers would be a form of discrimination against the common person.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 5:28:25 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Kaslin

The phrase “free riders” must have polled well, but it’s impossible to attach that to the over $250K taxpayers. Pelosi is leaking Botox ...


10 posted on 07/01/2012 5:29:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kaslin
genius-babies

11 posted on 07/01/2012 5:30:28 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Sarah Barracuda
The single payer system is something that the far left commies have been dreaming about for years and years. This was NEVER about health care, this is about power and control. They want to be able to control who lives and who dies, controlling people’s health care is the ultimate power trip to these commie freaks

Yup, you will see more and more Bloomberg style regulations coming out of this government. No trans far, no sugar, no soda ....forget alcohol and tobacco. Why? Because your health is now the responsibility of the collective. If you get sick the collective pays.

In another generation we'll see progressives dust off such terms as "useless eaters". This is America so we probably won't see people denied treatment along racial lines , it will be couched in terms of "fairness" and what's best for the family. How can a family prosper if they're paying so much for grandma's medical care ... watch for more "right to die with dignity" rhetoric followed by "duty to get out of the way".

God willing we won't see it, but you can bet our grand kids will.

12 posted on 07/01/2012 5:42:33 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Kaslin

And those folks who don’t file tax returns, or cheat on their tax returns, will pay this annual penalty when????

WTF, federal workers owe what, $3+ billion in unpaid taxes already.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 5:42:37 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Kaslin

Pelosi can say...No, No, No until the cows come home.....but the American people will figure out it’s a tax and no amount of spin will change that fact...

whatever you think of the Roberts opinion he sure did throw an anchor around Obama and the dems neck....


14 posted on 07/01/2012 5:45:20 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Kaslin

We must resist Obamatax...

Obamatax is bad for your health.


15 posted on 07/01/2012 5:58:03 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (OBAMATAX is bad for your healthcare and bad for America.)
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16 posted on 07/01/2012 5:58:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin

Pay up suckers! Or face imprisonment by not paying your healthcare tax. If you have money left after cashing your paycheck, you are guilty of not paying your fair share, comrade. This shit is 1914-1917 all over again. Didn’t we beat these communists back once before? Sheesh, they’re like a bad rash that refuses to go away.


17 posted on 07/01/2012 6:04:37 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Kaslin
Is this what Pelosi meant by "passing the bill to see what's in it?"

No, that's what Roberts made sure of.

Pelosi wanted you to think you were dealing with the Commerce Clause.

18 posted on 07/01/2012 6:12:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

The US Supreme Court liberals ruled it’s a Tax.

Or it’s unconstitutional.

The ObamCareTax


19 posted on 07/01/2012 6:19:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Kaslin
"So that's what they want to repeal," she said. "we're happy to have that debate."

Sorry dingbat, you guys set the precedent - no debate allowed on the issue of Obamacare. The majority submits the bill and the vote is taken five minutes later.

20 posted on 07/01/2012 6:42:41 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

Clearly all the tax talk has the liberal left scrambling in a corner trying to figure out what to do. Republicans need to keep hammering on this everyday until Nov 6. It will drive the libs insane, if they aren’t already there.


21 posted on 07/01/2012 7:09:04 PM PDT by GnL
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To: Kaslin
WOW!

She can sit still and still spin like a Whirling Dervish!

22 posted on 07/01/2012 7:33:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Popman

If it is not a tax, why is the IRS enforcing it?

When people think of the IRS, what first comes to mind? Taxes.

Everyone, absolutely everyone, who is told the IRS will make them buy health insurance is conditioned to view the IRS as a tax enforcer. Everyone hates the IRS.

This is not a winnable PR war for the democrats. They will never convince people that this health care bill is a gift from heaven when the mafia goons of the IRS are going to break kneecaps if you do not buy the insurance.

This is a lost cause for the democrats. They will never convince anyone that the IRS is there to better their health. The IRS is a gruesome, unfair, sadistic organization and 100% of the working population knows it.

This PR game is a lost cause before it starts. The democrats are so stupid to think we do not know what is happening when they are sending in the IRS to terrorize the cizenry into compliance. Whether democrat, independent or republican a citizen will know this is a bad deal because that same citizen has had dealings with the IRS and all have been bad. Basically, when dealing with the IRS the proposition is that it wins and the citizen loses regardless of the citizen’s proof.

Give me a break. This health care bill is DOA with the American people. They already hate this bill 60% against and 40% for. Add the IRS to this equation and we are going to swear in president Romney and kill the bill with a simple majority vote in the Senate. No way this has a chance of a snow falke in hell.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Kaslin

Pay "a small penalty"? It took 2,700+ pages to accomplish that?

She smiles sweetly at us while knowingly and deliberately lying, to which she then adds insult to injury, by blaming her political opponents for doing the very thing she is doing, right now.

Why do these people still have teeth in their heads???

24 posted on 07/01/2012 7:54:08 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Kaslin

Every Cent You Make (I’ll Be Taxing You)
by Paul Shanklin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRRsfCD1Bh0


25 posted on 07/01/2012 8:44:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: GilGil

Correct me if I’m wrong...but I don’t think that the IRS has been authorized by Congress yet to expand out to have enough employees to run the operation. I haven’t heard of any method which they could avoid Congress and just hire employees anyway....so this might prove to be interesting in 2013 as they try to talk Congress into more funding for the IRS. I don’t think it’ll happen.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 2:31:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin
So according to the ugly old bat a rattlesnake is really just a fishing worm.
So if you fish be careful with them.
27 posted on 07/02/2012 3:23:25 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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