Posted on 07/01/2012 7:34:47 PM PDT by rovenstinez
Before Midnight Mexico will announce the new President who will serve for the next 6 years. This ought to be of special interest to many people in the USA, especially those on the border states.
I realize neither are good choices, but between the two, who should US conservatives root for to win?
The one that will keep Mexico’s criminal element IN Mexico!
Thank goodness we all know that the Mexican voting process is completely incorruptible, and all the voting officials would never take a dime of the drug cartel bribes; thus ensuring the best possible selection of the candidates on the ballot.
Why, if it were any different, Mexico might have a chance to pull themselves up and stop being a parasite to the rest of America.
All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good people to do nothing = and Mexico is chock full of good people who do absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.
I’m sure they don’t have to show an id to vote, right?
Build the fence!
Silly me, of course they do: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-22/mexico-national-voter-ID-cards/52779410/1
Contray to what every you can imagine, you’ve heard or been told. The Mexican Electoral process has several safety measures. You DO have to have picture I.D, a voter’s card, your number MUST show up at the precinct where you were registered. The ballot boxes are all clear plastic, you can see that there aren’t ballots already IN THE BOX they take video shots before, have judges from each party to watch that the rules are carried out. Then a silver nitrate solution is put on your thumb so you can’t vote again, and a hole punched in your ID that says you’ve voted. I think it’s FAR better than any thing I’ve seen in the USA. I was at one time registered to vote in the General election in 3 states. There are many loop holes and ways to commit fraud in the US, but no so easy here in Mexico. Facts are stubborn things, said John Adams.
Those IDs are a real hoot from what I understand. You can have any name, birthdate, etc put on them that you want on them. All you need is to have two people who already have a card vouch for who you are and when you were born. LOL! Good stuff.
Probably in Mexico, just like in the USA, requiring a photo ID to vote is part of a conspiracy to suppress voting by Hispanics.
Judging by the 2000 and 2006 presidential election results in Mexico, if a bunch of freepers and media pundits tell us that the PAN candidate is "friend of America" and a "rock solid conservative", that means (s)he is a big government socialist, gun grabbing, soft-on-crime, open borders, Democrat-loving statist.
Both sides are puppets for the drug cartels...
Send the Marines and kill all of them.
Well, one of them is the local Gore soreloserman, a Chavez wannabe. The other is just a regular inept.
Thanks for explaining that about voting in Mexico. I always appreciate when Freepers share actual experience with something.
The PAN candidate is a has-been who went in hours late on her own rally. Her latest Lysistrata ploy has not been well received. I’m surprised she’s still on pair with the Gore mini-me.
Phillipe Cabron = joto
Enrique Puto Nieto = joto
Yo habla Espaniol muy, muy buen...
My spelling ain’t so good in Spanish, but I think you get the idea...
Ours?
I do hope they mean theirs.
It sounds like the communist party that had power for 71 years and was kicked out 12 years ago is going to win.
WTF is wrong with people, and why in the living hell is left wing radicalism making a comeback all around the globe?
There are three major parties in Mexico: PAN, PRI, and PRD. I don’t know why people keep referring to the race as “the two candidates” when it’s a 3-way race. PAN is the allegedly “conservative” party, and Mexico has been run by a “conservative” government for the last 12 years. If Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderon are what “conservative” means in Mexico, then good riddance, they’ve been nothing but a thorn in our side. Ironically, many of the public policy issues where Mexico really is conservative, like restrictive abortion laws, were passed under the previous, “liberal” PRI government. They’re ultra-corrupt but I really don’t think they stand for anything except winning elections. And the third party, PRD, are a bunch of screwy commies who came THISCLOSE (less than 1%) from winning the 2006 election. “Conservative” Calderon pulled off a victory instead, and went on to screw America for the last six years.
The “wrong” is, the one challenger (Democratic Revolution Party, Progressive Front) is a lot more commie, and the incumbent’s party, the one mildly reasonable, seemingly got bored with government and is bailing out; some of the campaign ads won’t even show the candidate.
PRI isn't communist, just ultra corrupt. PRD is well to the left of them and was created in 1988 for people who didn't think PRI is liberal enough.
>> WTF is wrong with people <<
Bottom line: Is Mexico better off now with the "conservatives" in power, than they were 12 years ago? They've been as disastrous for Mexico as Obama has been for the USA. The whole country has been overrun with violence from drug cartels.
Because the so-called “Conservative” opposition is thoroughly milquetoast once in power and fundamentally refuses to engage in true, revolutionary change. Too timid and too lacking in balls.
Thanks. That explains it better than anything else I have seen so far.
Is it safe to say that PRD would be the party we least want to win?
It depends on the perspective. If you were a conservative living in Mexico, you definitely would not want PRD to win. They're a bunch of demagogue socialists who believe in wealth redistribution and would govern like Hugo Chavez.
From the perspective of conservatives in America, PRD is the only major party in Mexico that DOESN'T believe in open borders. PAN and the crooks at PRI love open borders because of the money it brings home in Mexico. PRD views people fleeing their country as a national embarrassment and Castro-style socialists want to keep people from fleeing their country and will keep them there by force if necessary.
Given the millions of criminal invaders in our country now and the hell they have created, I don't view this as a bad thing.
Actually they do. Per prev. thread.
Based on your description, I am now a PRD fan.
yes they do . a biometric one.
Seguro que si!
Very good coverage of this race on Aljezeera.com
We have come to the point that we have to go to foreign media to find out what’s happening
That... that was unexpected. Nice call. Weird, but nice.
We might be better off letting them pick. I will take Felipe Calderón over Baraq Obama any day.
The guy that is leading is looking to sign an under the table truce with the cartels and let them operate unharassed by the government in exchange for an end to the violence.
Sell all the drugs to the gringos you want, just stop the gang war
I would hope for a Pan win, but it's not going to happen. I actually think part of the reason that the Pope visited Mexico, and that Cristiada (For Greater Glory in the US) was recently released was to remind Mexicans of the legacy of the Political Party that ruled uninterrupted for 70 years (until 2000 when PAN won).
The PRI, had such greats as Plutarco Calles, most noted for a fierce oppression of Catholics that led to the Cristero War, a civil war between Catholics and government forces in which 30,000 Catholics were killed, and for founding the Partido Nacional Revolucionario (National Revolutionary Party, or PNR), which eventually became the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI).
The exit poll shows Pena Nieto of the PRI winning, but by a narrower margin than the pre-election polls.
The left-wing PRD candidate Lopez Obrador is running closer in the actual votes counted so far.
If you have Galavision on your cable or dish they are relaying Televisa coverage of the election en Espanol right now.
bttt
Of course they do...Ya think they want millions of illegals crippling and crushing their corrupt system?
Whoever wins, can we do an exchange?
Newt Gingrich no quiere dejar la carrera por la nominación Republicana
Well, he is cute.
Not very different than US voters.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/01/world/americas/mexico-elections/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Officials: Peña Nieto projected winner in Mexican presidential vote
Hopefully the violence will end.
All the morons from the PRD did was foment gang warfare, and the impact on the drug trade was negligible.
eff the fence. I want a brick wall. Something that is a PITA to dig under and impossible to climb over.
I saw a sample fence compromised in 3 ways in less than 5 minutes.
a militarized boarder with shoot to kill orders works to.
Best yet. Put the military on top of said wall with shoot to kill orders.
This is not a game and this is long past due. Keep the cess pool on the south side of the wall.
“I will take Felipe Calderón over Baraq Obama any day.”
Any random person would be an improvement. Speaking English would be convenient though.
Peña Nieto sería el nuevo presidente de México
When I read the headline, I misinterpreted this into meaning that Mexico was going to somehow usurp the laws of the United States of Mexico North and install the muslim marxist into power for six more years after the November election.
So is this a race between one white spaniard vs. Another white spaniard?
Like is always has been in mexico?
So is this a race between one white spaniard vs. Another white spaniard?
Like is always has been in mexico?
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