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Mexico to decide President for the next 6 years
Mexico Federal Election Returns IFE ^ | July 1, 2012 | rovenstinez

Posted on 07/01/2012 7:34:47 PM PDT by rovenstinez

Before Midnight Mexico will announce the new President who will serve for the next 6 years. This ought to be of special interest to many people in the USA, especially those on the border states.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: latinamerica; mexico
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Leading in exit polls is Enrique Pena Nieto the former Governor of the State of Mexico, plagued with a lot of violence, corruption and kidnappings while he was Governor.
1 posted on 07/01/2012 7:34:59 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

I realize neither are good choices, but between the two, who should US conservatives root for to win?


2 posted on 07/01/2012 7:41:30 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

The one that will keep Mexico’s criminal element IN Mexico!


3 posted on 07/01/2012 7:45:30 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: rovenstinez

Thank goodness we all know that the Mexican voting process is completely incorruptible, and all the voting officials would never take a dime of the drug cartel bribes; thus ensuring the best possible selection of the candidates on the ballot.

Why, if it were any different, Mexico might have a chance to pull themselves up and stop being a parasite to the rest of America.

All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good people to do nothing = and Mexico is chock full of good people who do absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.


4 posted on 07/01/2012 7:46:19 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: rovenstinez

I’m sure they don’t have to show an id to vote, right?


5 posted on 07/01/2012 7:50:10 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: rovenstinez

Build the fence!


6 posted on 07/01/2012 7:50:59 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: rovenstinez

Silly me, of course they do: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-22/mexico-national-voter-ID-cards/52779410/1


7 posted on 07/01/2012 7:51:32 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Hodar

Contray to what every you can imagine, you’ve heard or been told. The Mexican Electoral process has several safety measures. You DO have to have picture I.D, a voter’s card, your number MUST show up at the precinct where you were registered. The ballot boxes are all clear plastic, you can see that there aren’t ballots already IN THE BOX they take video shots before, have judges from each party to watch that the rules are carried out. Then a silver nitrate solution is put on your thumb so you can’t vote again, and a hole punched in your ID that says you’ve voted. I think it’s FAR better than any thing I’ve seen in the USA. I was at one time registered to vote in the General election in 3 states. There are many loop holes and ways to commit fraud in the US, but no so easy here in Mexico. Facts are stubborn things, said John Adams.


8 posted on 07/01/2012 7:56:16 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: neodad

Those IDs are a real hoot from what I understand. You can have any name, birthdate, etc put on them that you want on them. All you need is to have two people who already have a card vouch for who you are and when you were born. LOL! Good stuff.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 7:57:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution?!)
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To: neodad

Probably in Mexico, just like in the USA, requiring a photo ID to vote is part of a conspiracy to suppress voting by Hispanics.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 7:59:34 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: comebacknewt; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
>> I realize neither are good choices, but between the two, who should US conservatives root for to win? <<

Judging by the 2000 and 2006 presidential election results in Mexico, if a bunch of freepers and media pundits tell us that the PAN candidate is "friend of America" and a "rock solid conservative", that means (s)he is a big government socialist, gun grabbing, soft-on-crime, open borders, Democrat-loving statist.

11 posted on 07/01/2012 7:59:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: comebacknewt

Both sides are puppets for the drug cartels...

Send the Marines and kill all of them.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 8:01:47 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: comebacknewt

Well, one of them is the local Gore soreloserman, a Chavez wannabe. The other is just a regular inept.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 8:07:01 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: rovenstinez

Thanks for explaining that about voting in Mexico. I always appreciate when Freepers share actual experience with something.


14 posted on 07/01/2012 8:07:56 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: BillyBoy

The PAN candidate is a has-been who went in hours late on her own rally. Her latest Lysistrata ploy has not been well received. I’m surprised she’s still on pair with the Gore mini-me.


15 posted on 07/01/2012 8:09:44 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: rovenstinez

Phillipe Cabron = joto

Enrique Puto Nieto = joto

Yo habla Espaniol muy, muy buen...

My spelling ain’t so good in Spanish, but I think you get the idea...


16 posted on 07/01/2012 8:10:28 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!

Ours?


17 posted on 07/01/2012 8:15:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: rovenstinez
Mexico to decide President for the next 6 years

I do hope they mean theirs.

18 posted on 07/01/2012 8:16:39 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: rovenstinez

It sounds like the communist party that had power for 71 years and was kicked out 12 years ago is going to win.

WTF is wrong with people, and why in the living hell is left wing radicalism making a comeback all around the globe?


19 posted on 07/01/2012 8:21:10 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Moose Burger; Sir Francis Dashwood; comebacknewt

There are three major parties in Mexico: PAN, PRI, and PRD. I don’t know why people keep referring to the race as “the two candidates” when it’s a 3-way race. PAN is the allegedly “conservative” party, and Mexico has been run by a “conservative” government for the last 12 years. If Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderon are what “conservative” means in Mexico, then good riddance, they’ve been nothing but a thorn in our side. Ironically, many of the public policy issues where Mexico really is conservative, like restrictive abortion laws, were passed under the previous, “liberal” PRI government. They’re ultra-corrupt but I really don’t think they stand for anything except winning elections. And the third party, PRD, are a bunch of screwy commies who came THISCLOSE (less than 1%) from winning the 2006 election. “Conservative” Calderon pulled off a victory instead, and went on to screw America for the last six years.


20 posted on 07/01/2012 8:21:57 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: hitchwolf

The “wrong” is, the one challenger (Democratic Revolution Party, Progressive Front) is a lot more commie, and the incumbent’s party, the one mildly reasonable, seemingly got bored with government and is bailing out; some of the campaign ads won’t even show the candidate.


21 posted on 07/01/2012 8:26:19 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: hitchwolf
>> It sounds like the communist party that had power for 71 years and was kicked out 12 years ago is going to win. <<

PRI isn't communist, just ultra corrupt. PRD is well to the left of them and was created in 1988 for people who didn't think PRI is liberal enough.

>> WTF is wrong with people <<

Bottom line: Is Mexico better off now with the "conservatives" in power, than they were 12 years ago? They've been as disastrous for Mexico as Obama has been for the USA. The whole country has been overrun with violence from drug cartels.

22 posted on 07/01/2012 8:26:30 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: hitchwolf

Because the so-called “Conservative” opposition is thoroughly milquetoast once in power and fundamentally refuses to engage in true, revolutionary change. Too timid and too lacking in balls.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 8:28:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: BillyBoy

Thanks. That explains it better than anything else I have seen so far.

Is it safe to say that PRD would be the party we least want to win?


24 posted on 07/01/2012 8:28:53 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt
I'd say so. Their coallition is called "Progressive Movement". These are their logos:


25 posted on 07/01/2012 8:34:06 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: comebacknewt
>> Is it safe to say that PRD would be the party we least want to win? <<

It depends on the perspective. If you were a conservative living in Mexico, you definitely would not want PRD to win. They're a bunch of demagogue socialists who believe in wealth redistribution and would govern like Hugo Chavez.

From the perspective of conservatives in America, PRD is the only major party in Mexico that DOESN'T believe in open borders. PAN and the crooks at PRI love open borders because of the money it brings home in Mexico. PRD views people fleeing their country as a national embarrassment and Castro-style socialists want to keep people from fleeing their country and will keep them there by force if necessary.

26 posted on 07/01/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: BillyBoy
"PRD views people fleeing their country as a national embarrassment and Castro-style socialists want to keep people from fleeing their country and will keep them there by force if necessary."

Given the millions of criminal invaders in our country now and the hell they have created, I don't view this as a bad thing.

27 posted on 07/01/2012 8:42:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: neodad

Actually they do. Per prev. thread.


28 posted on 07/01/2012 8:52:13 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: BillyBoy

Based on your description, I am now a PRD fan.


29 posted on 07/01/2012 8:53:33 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: neodad

yes they do . a biometric one.


30 posted on 07/01/2012 8:57:01 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Seguro que si!


31 posted on 07/01/2012 9:13:36 PM PDT by unkus
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To: rovenstinez

Very good coverage of this race on Aljezeera.com
We have come to the point that we have to go to foreign media to find out what’s happening


32 posted on 07/01/2012 9:13:36 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: BillyBoy

That... that was unexpected. Nice call. Weird, but nice.


33 posted on 07/01/2012 9:14:19 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Erasmus
I do hope they mean theirs.

We might be better off letting them pick. I will take Felipe Calderón over Baraq Obama any day.

34 posted on 07/01/2012 9:16:50 PM PDT by Hoodat (“An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to destroy.” - John Marshall)
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To: LUV W

The guy that is leading is looking to sign an under the table truce with the cartels and let them operate unharassed by the government in exchange for an end to the violence.
Sell all the drugs to the gringos you want, just stop the gang war


35 posted on 07/01/2012 9:18:36 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: comebacknewt
I realize neither are good choices, but between the two, who should US conservatives root for to win?

I would hope for a Pan win, but it's not going to happen. I actually think part of the reason that the Pope visited Mexico, and that Cristiada (For Greater Glory in the US) was recently released was to remind Mexicans of the legacy of the Political Party that ruled uninterrupted for 70 years (until 2000 when PAN won).

The PRI, had such greats as Plutarco Calles, most noted for a fierce oppression of Catholics that led to the Cristero War, a civil war between Catholics and government forces in which 30,000 Catholics were killed, and for founding the Partido Nacional Revolucionario (National Revolutionary Party, or PNR), which eventually became the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI).

36 posted on 07/01/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: rovenstinez

The exit poll shows Pena Nieto of the PRI winning, but by a narrower margin than the pre-election polls.

The left-wing PRD candidate Lopez Obrador is running closer in the actual votes counted so far.

If you have Galavision on your cable or dish they are relaying Televisa coverage of the election en Espanol right now.


37 posted on 07/01/2012 9:34:38 PM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: sockmonkey

bttt


38 posted on 07/01/2012 9:38:01 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: rovenstinez; married21
Contray to what every you can imagine, you’ve heard or been told. The Mexican Electoral process has several safety measures.

Of course they do...Ya think they want millions of illegals crippling and crushing their corrupt system?

39 posted on 07/01/2012 9:40:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rovenstinez

Whoever wins, can we do an exchange?


40 posted on 07/01/2012 9:46:21 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Liberty Valance

Newt Gingrich no quiere dejar la carrera por la nominación Republicana


41 posted on 07/01/2012 9:57:17 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: hitchwolf

Well, he is cute.

Not very different than US voters.


42 posted on 07/01/2012 9:57:32 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Liberty Valance

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/01/world/americas/mexico-elections/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Officials: Peña Nieto projected winner in Mexican presidential vote


43 posted on 07/01/2012 10:02:23 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance
Now the cartels will be left alone by the Federales.

Hopefully the violence will end.

All the morons from the PRD did was foment gang warfare, and the impact on the drug trade was negligible.

44 posted on 07/01/2012 10:23:26 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: Sybeck1

eff the fence. I want a brick wall. Something that is a PITA to dig under and impossible to climb over.

I saw a sample fence compromised in 3 ways in less than 5 minutes.

a militarized boarder with shoot to kill orders works to.

Best yet. Put the military on top of said wall with shoot to kill orders.

This is not a game and this is long past due. Keep the cess pool on the south side of the wall.


45 posted on 07/01/2012 10:35:16 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Hoodat

“I will take Felipe Calderón over Baraq Obama any day.”

Any random person would be an improvement. Speaking English would be convenient though.


46 posted on 07/01/2012 10:44:57 PM PDT by jocon307
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Peña Nieto sería el nuevo presidente de México


47 posted on 07/01/2012 10:50:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rovenstinez

When I read the headline, I misinterpreted this into meaning that Mexico was going to somehow usurp the laws of the United States of Mexico North and install the muslim marxist into power for six more years after the November election.


48 posted on 07/01/2012 10:51:03 PM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: rovenstinez

So is this a race between one white spaniard vs. Another white spaniard?

Like is always has been in mexico?


49 posted on 07/01/2012 10:54:13 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: rovenstinez

So is this a race between one white spaniard vs. Another white spaniard?

Like is always has been in mexico?


50 posted on 07/01/2012 10:54:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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