Posted on 07/01/2012 9:36:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
In a 5 to 4 vote, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the controversial provision requiring Americans to purchase health insurance was not unconstitutional, as its opponents had hoped, but amounted to a levy which Congress can issue based on its constitutional right to collect taxes. In a surprise move, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, long seen as a staunch conservative, backed the ruling and delivered the verdict.
German healthcare experts have long had difficulty understanding the debate in the United States because mandatory healthcare insurance has been required for decades in Germany, just as it is in many other European countries. People living in Germany cannot be excluded from health insurance because of previous conditions and, for those who are covered under the public-private national healthcare scheme, their premiums are based on how much income they earn.
Opponents in the US argued that requiring Americans to buy insurance is an intolerable intrusion into an individual's right to purchase what he or she feels is necessary and amounts to a move to Socialism, which they reject.
Proponents argued that health insurance only works if everyonesick as well as healthy individualsare part of the system. Large health insurers backed this, fearing they would experience big financial losses if required coverage were removed but a mandate requiring them to insure people regardless of their pre-conditions was kept.
(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...
On the bright side of things, the German Healthcare Officials will probably be jumping out of windows once the Euro collapses.
Of course germans do not understand. The health care system was imposed by a central government that has as much power as the autocratic regime of Otto von Bismarck. Despite the somewhat misleading language of its Basic Law, Germany has no real concept of limited government.
In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.
Sounding more like Barry Goldwater than the former head of the KGB, Putin said, Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors, and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months.
There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state. Vladimir Putin
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/putin_warns_us_to_eschew_socia.html
February 18, 2009
Putin warns US to eschew socialism
As if becoming more European is a good thing? Why do they think everybody left their countries and came here? So losers could infiltrate and re-create Europe, Mexico, the Middle East, Africa, whatever they came from and remake it here?
They are right about one thing. Roberts, the supposed conservative, does not think he has the right to limit the authority of the Federal Government in any significant way.
Isn’t it ironic that we become ever more politically European while at the same time becoming ever more third world demographically?
I know there's a long German word for taking pleasure in the misery of others. Is there a similarly long German word for being ironically clueless?
Funny that Putin makes such statements on one hand while renationalizing his country’s oil and gas industries on the other.
Sounds like you’re thinking of the word “schadenfreude”. The closest I can come to for the second phrase would be “ironischeratlos” . . . although that might be grammatically incorrect.
The world is upside down!
The American President preaches communist clap-trap and the KGB Russian President preaches capitalism.
In those countries, it's called the jizyah.
Muslims don't pay the jizyah, only infidels.
In the USSA, Muslims are exempt from ObamaTAX on religious grounds. Infidels are not.
No, the COURT has become more EuroPEON
In short, we are dhimmis. Welcome to Dhimmitude.
That’s what many Californios and New Englanders do when they move away from their sh*tholes.
Indeed. They really are parasites, moving to the next host after killing their previous one.
Twenty years later (well maybe a few more than that) here we are.
Do German experts of all types understand that the Amer-
ican taxpayers funded the defense of Germany and the rest of
Western Europe throughout the Cold War and continue to do
so to this day thereby making it possible for them to allocate
resources to other endeavors? I believe we already know the
answer to that question.
Do German experts of all types understand that the Amer-
ican taxpayers funded the defense of Germany and the rest of
Western Europe throughout the Cold War and continue to do
so to this day thereby making it possible for them to allocate
resources to other endeavors? I believe we already know the
answer to that question.
I was on a deterrent patrol in the Labrador Sea when KAL-007 was shot down. We thought a war had started and were on alert, ready to fire our missiles for the next 3 weeks.
I’ll take Putin over Dumb’O.
Schadenfreude is the word you’re looking for.
What Obama is doing, on the other hand, is nothing but a knowledgeable, illegal wealth and power grab. This illegal grab is dressed up in socialism and idealism as to try to make it more palatable to the masses and keep it from being investigated.
He, and they, are not heading our Country into a European kind of government, but rather one more in the line of Castro, Chavez, Ortega, or possibly much, much worse. He is fleecing us under the pretenses of socialism, the green movement and any other kind of excuse that has the look of idealism.
It really does not do justice to the kind of system that Obama and his backing have in mind for us, and have been heading us into, to compare it to bumbling Europe. It isn't bumbling, but rather calculated evil, with the purpose of taking us over, robbing us of our wealth, and also, even more importantly, pressing for the degradation and dis empowering of our people through the proliferation of all kinds of forms of immorality. It isn't a form of socialism, which it presently is hiding behind, but rather a grab for absolute power of the vilest kind, which without a heart for our people, cares not if we end up hurting, even unto death, for it's source is purest evil.
You mean the same KGB Russian president who nationalized all the oil and gas companies in his country?
Oh, they recognize it all right. Which makes things even more treacherous on their part. (Remember the days when Willy Brandt had to resign as chancellor because he had aides that were part of East Germany’s Stasi? Sometimes seems to me like the Cold War was a game that Germany initiated right after WWII to weaken both the USA and USSR.)
When commentators compare the direction we are heading towards with European socialism they do not realize that the direction we have been heading in is not towards merely failed socialism, but like your article says, towards something much more horrible than they are imagining. There is a movement in our Country, as well as in Europe, to rule and subjugation by a vastly evil empire run by dictators who care not for humanity's plight, nor our lives, but care only for themselves and their diabolical schemes to rule and benefit from the misery of others. When commentators, in their minds, compare us with European style socialism, they have no idea at all what we are really up against, which isn't merely failed ideas, but the fate of falling into the hands of pure, diabolically evil dictators.
I have a hard time not laughing hysterically when German “experts” cannot understand why we don’t have government-sponsored healthcare (actually, we do for many citizens) for all its citizens. Gee, German experts, it’s something called the U.S. constitution which clearly delineates the duties and obligations of the federal government. (Or at least we thought it did.) I wonder how many Americans try to explain to foreigners the concept about the government not being responsible for your welfare. If healthcare is a “right,” than how can government-supplied food, clothing, and shelter not be a “right” as well? You certainly can’t survive very long without food and shelter. And try surviving winters in the upper States without a certain amount of clothing.
Yes, we are beginning to look more and more like Greece every day.
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