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Newt Gingrich on D.C. Weather: 'Mild Taste of What an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) Attack Would Do'
The Weekly Standard ^

Posted on 07/02/2012 9:02:55 AM PDT by Perdogg

Newt Gingrich issued a warning, based on the destructive storms that hit the Washington, D.C. area over the weekend, on Twitter:

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: emp; gingrich; newt; newtgingrich; storms; weather
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Since we cannot have Newt as President, why not SecDef?
1 posted on 07/02/2012 9:03:02 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

At this point I’m a lot less concerned about an EMP than I am the continued closure of coal fired power plants.

I had power outages 2 days in a row last week and we didn’t even have any storms.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Perdogg

I saw this TV series already. Jericho

JJ Abrams is doing a similar one I’m the fall. Revolution.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 9:07:15 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Perdogg

Yep. Except the cars still work.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 9:11:37 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Perdogg

I wonder how all those Volts are working out for everyone in DC right now?


5 posted on 07/02/2012 9:12:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Perdogg

I would rather see Newt as Secretary of State, to clean out the nest of vipers in that godforsaken anti-American/pro-Arab hellhole.

John Bolton = National Security Advisor

David Petraeus = current SecDef = continue as SecDef

James Woolsey = returns as CIA Director

There are some of my thoughts on appointments IF we have a regime change this coming November.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 9:15:30 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mnehring

Certain dirk bikes will survive EMPs. Not much else.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 9:17:35 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Perdogg
HA HA HA!

look at all the idiot preppers eating and drinking while us smart people are standing in line waiting for the govt to feed us.

8 posted on 07/02/2012 9:17:35 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: TigerClaws

My older John Deere tractors with ignition points should be ok.The newer equipment will all be toast.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 9:21:42 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TigerClaws

Interesting ‘freudian slip’. Are you JJ Abrams? ... Keep us Freepers updated on Revolution. Sounds ‘poignant’ now that the collapse is within sight.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 9:21:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Perdogg

I think DC power removal can only be for the good

Having Gorbull warming flooding DC and returning it to the sea couldn’t ‘hoit ‘ either.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 9:23:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: mkjessup

Petraeus cannot be SecDef until September of 2021; National Security Act of 1947.


12 posted on 07/02/2012 9:23:36 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I’m saving my old Model-T ignition coil just in case.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 9:24:50 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: mkjessup

btw, Petraeus is not SecDef he is head of the CIA. Leon Panetta is SecDef.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 9:25:22 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Farmer Dean

I have two ancient rototillers that will still work. The Techumseh was made around 1947. The old Troybuilt, sometime in the late 50s.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 9:27:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: mkjessup

Okay, except Petraeus is not Sec of Def.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 9:28:06 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Perdogg

Newt, if you put it out on Twitter how do you expect they are gonna read it?


17 posted on 07/02/2012 9:29:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerClaws

[ I saw this TV series already. Jericho

JJ Abrams is doing a similar one I’m the fall. Revolution. ]

Never got into LOST, but I absolutely love Fringe and Alcatraz (sadly it was cancelled).

Looking forward to “Revolution” I hope they don’t “V” if it gets too “Political” like they did with V when they fired the producer because he made allusions to “Hope and change”.


18 posted on 07/02/2012 9:31:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: IMR 4350

Didn’t it leak out that the study of such an event concluded that 80% of the people east of the Mississippi would be dead in a year?


19 posted on 07/02/2012 9:32:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Farmer Dean

[ My older John Deere tractors with ignition points should be ok.The newer equipment will all be toast. ]

Older Deer Diesel Tractors will be fine too, an diesel tractor that has a “Manual Fuel Shutoff” will be fine as well. They only have basic electrica switches and an EMP isn’t going to destroy Lead Cell batteries and starter relays.

I grew up driving a “4020” on the farm, farmgirl at heart.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 9:33:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Perdogg

Hey, you know what? Try it for eight days in December with temps never going above 20 F and THEN I will have sympathy!


21 posted on 07/02/2012 9:35:24 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: crosshairs

Cars can survive lightning hits, they’ll probably be OK in an EMP.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: mnehring; waterhill; ixtl; Kartographer
I wonder how all those Volts are working out for everyone in DC right now?

I wonder if you could even charge one off a generator that didn't have really clean power? (((ping)))

23 posted on 07/02/2012 9:37:56 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: Perdogg
That was an idiotic thing to say.

By the end of the news cycle today, that comment will morph into an actual EMP attack.

By the end of the week Al Jeezera will morhp it into a zionist/US attack to itself and finally it will morph into Bush's fault.

24 posted on 07/02/2012 9:39:53 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: mnehring
I wonder how all those Volts are working out for everyone in DC right now?

I'm sure they were prepared and had spare 5 gallons cans of electricity stored in their garage.
25 posted on 07/02/2012 9:40:57 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Farmer Dean
tractors with ignition points should be ok

Last week, with temperature in Dallas 104, our 1998 Mercedes E320 died at a traffic light. The engine cranked normally but would not fire. Had it towed to our independent shop, and the mechanic diagnosed the problem without even looking at the computer readout. Failure of the "crankshaft position sensor", which he says happens all the time and frequently shows up in hot weather. It's a very small electronic gadget that sits on the bell housing near the rear of the engine. If I'm not mistaken, it does what the "distributor rotor" used to do back in the 20th century, but it now costs $300 to replace.

I imagine an EMP would wipe it out also, along with most of the car's other electronic conveniences.

26 posted on 07/02/2012 9:51:31 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Perdogg
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed an abnormal amount of severe weather events centered on DC, since Obama became President.

I mean seriously, a Land Hurricane?!?

27 posted on 07/02/2012 9:53:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NEMDF
Okay, except Petraeus is not Sec of Def.

True enough, I was thinking that getting that moron Panetta out of there was a good thing and that Petraeus had replaced him, "wishful thinking".
28 posted on 07/02/2012 9:53:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Perdogg

Strong reason to DownSize DC and move all possible back to the state level.

Force Congress to telecommute most of the year.

Move IT away from DC forever.

And I bet there are many congressmen who would rather live in their home district than near DC. (Except those milking the gravy train)


29 posted on 07/02/2012 9:53:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Perdogg

Wonder how those Leafs and Volts are doin about now.


30 posted on 07/02/2012 9:55:26 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Perdogg

I recently heard on some talk show that Iran will attack us by taking our electric grid out, returning us to the 19th century, and probably worse, as we are no longer self-sufficient or at least too dependent upon electricity.


31 posted on 07/02/2012 9:55:51 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Perdogg
btw, Petraeus is not SecDef he is head of the CIA. Leon Panetta is SecDef.

Yeah, thanks. I was obviously trying to not think of the fact that Lefty Leon was in charge of Defense, Petraeus would have been a better choice and is a better choice to be sure.
32 posted on 07/02/2012 9:56:16 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Adder

Volts run on gas as a backup so they’re no different in this case than the other 99.999% of vehicles.


33 posted on 07/02/2012 9:57:28 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Perdogg
Petraeus cannot be SecDef until September of 2021; National Security Act of 1947.

Amend the effin Act then. lol
34 posted on 07/02/2012 9:57:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Farmer Dean
My older John Deere tractors with ignition points should be ok.The newer equipment will all be toast.

Yup - anything with a carburetor and breaker points should be okay. Older diesels, too - but not the newer ones with electronic engine controls.

Anything with "throttle by wire" is definitely useless, good only as something from which to siphon fuel.

35 posted on 07/02/2012 9:58:38 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: mkjessup

John Bolton = National Security Advisor

Good Lord. He did nothing during his time as UN Ambassador and now you want him to do another “do nothing” job. We have incredibly good people that can be NSA but John Bolton is not one of them.


36 posted on 07/02/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Adder

Wonder how those Leafs and Volts are doin about now.

Doing fantastic running on good ole American Gasoline.


37 posted on 07/02/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I got news for you Sparky, Bolton was absolutely correct (and on the same page as Dick Cheney) when it came to dealing with the Islamofascists in Iran AND the Kim criminal dynasty in North Korea, unfortunately, GWB failed to listen to those wiser voices, opting for that pathetic piano-playing appeaser, aka Condi Rice.

Bolton is a good man and we would do well to heed his advice.
38 posted on 07/02/2012 10:04:31 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: discostu

“Cars can survive lightning hits, they’ll probably be OK in an EMP.”

Different energy levels in different frequency spectra.....so not apples-to-apples in comparison.


39 posted on 07/02/2012 10:04:58 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: mkjessup

They made an exception for Gen Marshall. However, this was after he served as Secretary of State.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: mnehring
I wonder how all those Volts are working out for everyone in DC right now

The 0.001% of the population who were dumb enough to buy them is up sh!t creek.

41 posted on 07/02/2012 10:07:28 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 19th LA Inf

ha! I have a 99 e320 and the sensor went out on mine too. It spent several months of cranking but not turning over. My guy switched out the sensor ($200 :)) and it hasn’t happened since!


42 posted on 07/02/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: TigerClaws

“Certain dirk bikes will survive EMPs. Not much else.”

Not true. EMP effects will be statistical in nature, and dependent on actual energy coupled to sensitive electronics. Everything will not be destroyed. Some things - probably, many things - possibly, everything - highly unlikely.


43 posted on 07/02/2012 10:07:55 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: mkjessup

Bolton is a good man and we would do well to heed his advice.

Maybe a good man but did not cut the UN, did not even combine departments or anything. No he sucked as UN Ambassador. Who cares if he agreed with the wars...lots of people did. He needed to do his job as UN Ambassador which for most conservatives means gutting the place.


44 posted on 07/02/2012 10:08:16 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: from occupied ga

Why are the electronics on a Volt presumed to be more vulnerable than other electronically controlled vehicles?


45 posted on 07/02/2012 10:10:26 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: napscoordinator
Doing fantastic running on good ole American Gasoline.

I can just picture the big gasoline-powered generator, strapped to the roof of a Nissan Leaf.

46 posted on 07/02/2012 10:20:48 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: nascarnation

Let me esssplain:

Much of DC (and other areas in VA) is without power from the recent storms (some places are not scheduled to be restored until Saturday).

The Volt runs on electricity.

There is no electricity in DC to charge the Volts.

The Volts won’t run.

See, so easy almost anyone can follow it!


47 posted on 07/02/2012 10:23:09 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: napscoordinator
He needed to do his job as UN Ambassador which for most conservatives means gutting the place.

Do tell, how Bolton was supposed to 'gut the place'. The fact is, Bolton's disdain for the U.N. was well known, and when even the communistic New York Times praises Bolton for his criticism of the U.N., specifically the human rights 'function' of that useless body, that speaks volumes.

You need to do some more research before you start slinging sh*t at Bolton, he did more to spotlight the flaws and wrongdoing at the U.N. than any recent predecessor.

Or, maybe you think that like Yosemite Sam, he should have just mined the building with TNT and 'blowed 'em up'?!?

As pleasing a visual as that would be (probably to Bolton as well), unfortunately things don't work like that in the real world (don't know about your world).
48 posted on 07/02/2012 10:33:24 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mkjessup

Or, maybe you think that like Yosemite Sam, he should have just mined the building with TNT and ‘blowed ‘em up’?!?

In honesty I sorta hoped he did something similiar to this solution and I know it is not realistic and maybe he did do a lot but I guess I am not realistic on what he actually could cut during his tenure. I don’t know if I was being hard on Bolton but probably so.


49 posted on 07/02/2012 11:09:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MrB

I think you’re right, I think it was something like 80%.

IIRC people living in the south east would do better than people in the north east. The study showed the NE would basically cease to exist.


50 posted on 07/02/2012 11:31:42 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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