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8,733,461: Workers on Federal 'Disability' Exceed Population of New York City
CNS News.com ^ | July 2, 2012 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/02/2012 3:10:42 PM PDT by Hojczyk

A record of 8,733,461 workers took federal disability insurance payments in June 2012, according to the Social Security Administration. That was up from 8,707,185 in May.

There has been a dramatic shrinkage in the United States over the past 20 years in the number of workers actually employed and earning paychecks per worker who is not employed and is taking federal disability insurance payments.

n June 1992, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there were 118,419,000 people employed in the United States, and, according to the Social Security Administration, there were 3,334,333 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled about 1 person taking disability payments for each 35.5 people actually working.

When President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, there were 142,187,000 people employed and 7,442,377 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled about 1 person taking disability payments for each 19.1 people actually working.

n May of this year, there were 142,287,000 people employed, and 8,707,185 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled 1 worker taking disability payments for each 16.3 people working.

The federal disability payments made to the record 8,733,461 workers in June averaged $1,111.42.

To be eligible for federal disability insurance payments, a person must have worked long enough to have qualified for the benefits and must also meet the Social Security Administration’s definition of “disabled.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; disabilityinsurance; federalworkforce

1 posted on 07/02/2012 3:10:52 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I think the eligibility is not that strict.....I know some guy who got this two kids
on it...they could not be more than 25..


2 posted on 07/02/2012 3:14:53 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

They are gonna get their freebies any way they can. Over 2 years of unemployment isn’t enough.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 3:15:06 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I do think that we have to take into account the aging population and the toll that the war has taken on our veterans.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 3:17:23 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Hojczyk

They must not be putting any type of restrictions on disability these days. There is no way this many people should be on disability. It sounds like just another welfare program. I really hope you cannot get both but I would not be surprised. These folks eat better than my family does and don’t have to do anything but just go sign up to loot us.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 3:18:36 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Hojczyk
A record of 8,733,461 workers took federal disability insurance payments in June 2012, according to the Social Security Administration.

Well at least they aren't unemployed....

6 posted on 07/02/2012 3:21:19 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Hojczyk
I think the eligibility is not that strict.....I know some guy who got this two kids on it...they could not be more than 25..

To receive S.S. disability, you generally have had to work and pay in under S.S. for at least 40 quarters (10 years). Are you thinking of S.S.I.? A whole nother animal, you don't have to have paid in a cent to get that.

7 posted on 07/02/2012 3:24:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: Hojczyk

this means they are paying out $116.5 BILLION a year for ‘disabled’ federal employees

we only spend just under $700 billion for the entire military budget... that’s only 6 times more... for people actually doing the job


8 posted on 07/02/2012 3:28:17 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Hojczyk

“Disabilty” is the New Welfare.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 3:34:55 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Marie

I know of a certain individual who moved down here to Florida from New York City - he was a cop (retired), did his 20 yr.
Said he has a bad back & knees so therefore collects SSI disability.

Now - While collecting all this he managed to put himself through the police academy here and works part-time as a Sheriff’s deputy in Suwannee County.

I call it fraud. I’ve thought of turning him in.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 3:39:39 PM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: Hojczyk

Back in the early 70s, I worked for a year and a half as a Social Security claims rep.

At that time, Social Security Disability was probably the most difficult process of any. Just about every one was refused at the first try. You had to be really, really in bad shape.

Just about zero were approved on reconsideration. Most who were approved were done so by an administrative law judge.

I guess it could have changed but I still bet it is not that easy. I will say that those who had an attorney had a much better chance of being approved. They knew exactly what to do and what they were looking for.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 3:41:23 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Hojczyk
I need to apply for that. Nothing wrong with me except my give-a-sh@t is broken.

I'll get over that in time for the November elections, but it may very well go permanent after that.

12 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:28 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: yarddog

We have a close friend on it, under 60 years of age, who has a form of dementia - not Alzheimers, but similar. We helped her with the process of applying for Social Security Disability. Not easy. Lots of hoops to jump through.

The spike is probably due in part to people who have lost their jobs and who could have qualified previously but decided for one reason or another that it was better to work than go on the dole. But when you are disabled, can’t find any job and you are under 62, an option is Social Security Disability.

Another contributing factor also has to be the climb in obesity rates.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 3:53:27 PM PDT by randita (Beware of those peddling fear and defeatism. They do not have our best interests at heart.)
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To: randita

One thing I do remember is they didn’t much care what the Dr. said. There were specific items the state agency checked for.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 4:05:38 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Hojczyk

Disability is the new welfare. After their unemployment runs out, million have applied for disability.

Fraud, of course, is rampant.

Food stamps and disability: two programs, IMHO, that need major cuts. And tightened down eligibility.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 4:29:06 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: Hojczyk
Most of this is SSI. The SSI program is de facto permanent welfare and should be eliminated.

We have become a welfare nation. SSI has become the natural follow-on to 99 weeks of UI. We have the Federal Government promoting "Food Stamp Parties". We have free "ObamaPhones". SNAP and TANF fill welfare recipients debit cards. TANF can buy beer and cigarettes. Child Medicaid (SCHIP) provides healthcare for adults aged 18 - 26.

Is it any wonder we are running one trillion dollar budget deficits?

We must roll this back.

16 posted on 07/02/2012 4:30:13 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Hojczyk

January 2009:
142,187,000 employed
7,442,377 on disability
31,983,716 on food stamps

Latest Data 2012:
142,287,000 employed
8,707,185 on disability
46,187,429 on food stamps

Increases
100,000 more employed
1,264,808 more on disability
14,203,713 more on food stamps

Food stamps on on track to cost $75 BILLION this fiscal year.

I realize with food stamps there is some double counting, since poor employed people and those on disability can qualify for food stamps.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 4:53:06 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Hojczyk

Does this include VA or not?


18 posted on 07/02/2012 5:00:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Demons run when a good man goes to war)
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To: Hojczyk

I want to see the names of these disability people posted online. Especially those who are getting disability checks for mental illness. Around here we call those checks ‘crazy checks’. I want to know if I have neighbors who are collecting crazy checks.


19 posted on 07/02/2012 5:19:22 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Hojczyk

Disability, welfare cash, food stamps, public housing and WIC.

The end of these programs is going to be a catastrophe for those who haven’t the knowledge to realize they are only slightly better off than slaves by accepting them as a way of life.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 5:21:28 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Hojczyk
Funny...I’m missing an arm for 40+ years and not disabled
21 posted on 07/02/2012 5:25:03 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: LFOD

And that you should do.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 5:27:47 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: abclily

I think the most fraud are the families with dependent children. I can understand it in a way as we want to make sure children are taken care of.

The problem is the vast amount of those drawing it have a “boyfriend” who is the child’s father but they claim they cannot find. In fact they often live together. That is pretty much the standard situation for them.

On the other hand I have a relative who qualified for disability for mental problems. He had just about hit bottom and was literally living in a tent in the woods. He was ashamed to file for disability as he had worked for most of his life and at good jobs. Finally a cousin simply told him he would have to file.

Social security sent him to a half quack psychologist who spent little time with him and reported some minor problems. When he was turned down he went through all the loops and then went before an administrative law judge. Before the judge ruled the guy asked if he could see a real psychiatrist. The judge agreed to do so and this time the psychiatrist state that among other things he was suffering from “major depression” and listed the severity in several areas which were above what it took to. and he got the disability.

I personally know what this guy has gone through and can see why he is suffering from major depression. Now a person driving by might see him doing light work such as mowing his yard or picking up trash in the yard and think he looks fine. However if one put him into a regular job with regular hours he would never be able to do it. So you can’t always tell just by looking.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 5:40:59 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: iowamark
“Disabilty” is the New Welfare.

So is Medicaid.
So is Federal employment. With the highest percentage in D.C.

24 posted on 07/02/2012 6:18:26 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: yarddog
IIRC you can work a limited number of hours per week and still retain disability. The reasoning behind that is most a jobs like the door greeter at Wally World and jobs like that or telemarketing, phone banks etc.

It allows them to also keep their Medicare coverage which for many disabled due to chronic health issues is a must. The worker may work once a week and develop a pressure sore and be out three months but they would be considered employed right?

My wife is disabled and has been for 27 years this Labor Day. Her disability is highly obvious as she is quad. I have been on disability 18 years and no it was not easy to get my claim approved even with two of their examiners saying I could never hold a job again. If my neighbor saw me and didn't know me yea they might say I was able to hold a job. That is the key here being able to medically or mentally hold employment. Mentally I can't but I do not have a mental illness. I have severe Vestibular {Inner Ear} and sensory processing issues. I can function within my home and tolerate some shopping etc. I am also my wife's sole caregiver. If certain sensory stresses are around me I can go into what I call a brain fog. I also will seizure in my upper torso. But I look as healthy as can be.

Another person may be disabled and even have license plates for handicapped parking. That person might walk out of the vehicle and look OK. They may also have serious heart related issues like my cousin does.

Most persons are not on SSDI or Social Security Disability Insurance but rather SSI which the qualifications are much lower and some who applied for SSDI will draw it till disability is determined or even afterward if they have minor kids. As for me? I drew SSI at first. When my disability was approved {second try no lawyer} I had to pay back all previous SSI payments before I saw my SSDI check. I draw a little over $800 a month. My wife a little over $600 a month.

Would I go back to work again if I could? Yea I like money LOL. But what I have though not life threatening is also not curable and somewhat limited in treatment effectiveness. It's a condition I was born with and lived with. I even passed my Navy and Army physicals and did a 4yr active Navy and a year Army NG stint.. But at age 37 the condition became disabling in a matter of a few short months. There is a lot more to what qualifies as a disability than a person simply being able to get up and move around.

25 posted on 07/02/2012 7:01:59 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: yarddog

I’m not worried about a neighbor mowing his yard. I want to know whether or not my neighbor has been deemed mentally unstable.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:53 PM PDT by abclily
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To: yarddog
here's the thing......people USED to work thru because they HAD too....

when you HAVE to do something, surprising how you can get it done....

hey, offer me a nice SS check early because I have severe osteo and degenerative disc disease, and I'd run with it....but I need to keep working to pay bills...

27 posted on 07/02/2012 7:18:17 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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To: sten
Yes, and they (Federal Employees) owe over $3.4 BILLION dollars in back taxes!

Federal Employees owe $3.4 BILLION dollars in back taxes! (click to read article)

28 posted on 07/03/2012 7:46:21 AM PDT by yorkie
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