Posted on 07/02/2012 3:10:42 PM PDT by Hojczyk
A record of 8,733,461 workers took federal disability insurance payments in June 2012, according to the Social Security Administration. That was up from 8,707,185 in May.
There has been a dramatic shrinkage in the United States over the past 20 years in the number of workers actually employed and earning paychecks per worker who is not employed and is taking federal disability insurance payments.
n June 1992, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there were 118,419,000 people employed in the United States, and, according to the Social Security Administration, there were 3,334,333 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled about 1 person taking disability payments for each 35.5 people actually working.
When President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, there were 142,187,000 people employed and 7,442,377 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled about 1 person taking disability payments for each 19.1 people actually working.
n May of this year, there were 142,287,000 people employed, and 8,707,185 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled 1 worker taking disability payments for each 16.3 people working.
The federal disability payments made to the record 8,733,461 workers in June averaged $1,111.42.
To be eligible for federal disability insurance payments, a person must have worked long enough to have qualified for the benefits and must also meet the Social Security Administration’s definition of “disabled.”
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I think the eligibility is not that strict.....I know some guy who got this two kids
on it...they could not be more than 25..
They are gonna get their freebies any way they can. Over 2 years of unemployment isn’t enough.
I do think that we have to take into account the aging population and the toll that the war has taken on our veterans.
They must not be putting any type of restrictions on disability these days. There is no way this many people should be on disability. It sounds like just another welfare program. I really hope you cannot get both but I would not be surprised. These folks eat better than my family does and don’t have to do anything but just go sign up to loot us.
Well at least they aren't unemployed....
To receive S.S. disability, you generally have had to work and pay in under S.S. for at least 40 quarters (10 years). Are you thinking of S.S.I.? A whole nother animal, you don't have to have paid in a cent to get that.
this means they are paying out $116.5 BILLION a year for ‘disabled’ federal employees
we only spend just under $700 billion for the entire military budget... that’s only 6 times more... for people actually doing the job
“Disabilty” is the New Welfare.
I know of a certain individual who moved down here to Florida from New York City - he was a cop (retired), did his 20 yr.
Said he has a bad back & knees so therefore collects SSI disability.
Now - While collecting all this he managed to put himself through the police academy here and works part-time as a Sheriff’s deputy in Suwannee County.
I call it fraud. I’ve thought of turning him in.
Back in the early 70s, I worked for a year and a half as a Social Security claims rep.
At that time, Social Security Disability was probably the most difficult process of any. Just about every one was refused at the first try. You had to be really, really in bad shape.
Just about zero were approved on reconsideration. Most who were approved were done so by an administrative law judge.
I guess it could have changed but I still bet it is not that easy. I will say that those who had an attorney had a much better chance of being approved. They knew exactly what to do and what they were looking for.
I'll get over that in time for the November elections, but it may very well go permanent after that.
We have a close friend on it, under 60 years of age, who has a form of dementia - not Alzheimers, but similar. We helped her with the process of applying for Social Security Disability. Not easy. Lots of hoops to jump through.
The spike is probably due in part to people who have lost their jobs and who could have qualified previously but decided for one reason or another that it was better to work than go on the dole. But when you are disabled, can’t find any job and you are under 62, an option is Social Security Disability.
Another contributing factor also has to be the climb in obesity rates.
One thing I do remember is they didn’t much care what the Dr. said. There were specific items the state agency checked for.
Disability is the new welfare. After their unemployment runs out, million have applied for disability.
Fraud, of course, is rampant.
Food stamps and disability: two programs, IMHO, that need major cuts. And tightened down eligibility.
We have become a welfare nation. SSI has become the natural follow-on to 99 weeks of UI. We have the Federal Government promoting "Food Stamp Parties". We have free "ObamaPhones". SNAP and TANF fill welfare recipients debit cards. TANF can buy beer and cigarettes. Child Medicaid (SCHIP) provides healthcare for adults aged 18 - 26.
Is it any wonder we are running one trillion dollar budget deficits?
We must roll this back.
January 2009:
142,187,000 employed
7,442,377 on disability
31,983,716 on food stamps
Latest Data 2012:
142,287,000 employed
8,707,185 on disability
46,187,429 on food stamps
Increases
100,000 more employed
1,264,808 more on disability
14,203,713 more on food stamps
Food stamps on on track to cost $75 BILLION this fiscal year.
I realize with food stamps there is some double counting, since poor employed people and those on disability can qualify for food stamps.
Does this include VA or not?
I want to see the names of these disability people posted online. Especially those who are getting disability checks for mental illness. Around here we call those checks ‘crazy checks’. I want to know if I have neighbors who are collecting crazy checks.
Disability, welfare cash, food stamps, public housing and WIC.
The end of these programs is going to be a catastrophe for those who haven’t the knowledge to realize they are only slightly better off than slaves by accepting them as a way of life.
And that you should do.
I think the most fraud are the families with dependent children. I can understand it in a way as we want to make sure children are taken care of.
The problem is the vast amount of those drawing it have a “boyfriend” who is the child’s father but they claim they cannot find. In fact they often live together. That is pretty much the standard situation for them.
On the other hand I have a relative who qualified for disability for mental problems. He had just about hit bottom and was literally living in a tent in the woods. He was ashamed to file for disability as he had worked for most of his life and at good jobs. Finally a cousin simply told him he would have to file.
Social security sent him to a half quack psychologist who spent little time with him and reported some minor problems. When he was turned down he went through all the loops and then went before an administrative law judge. Before the judge ruled the guy asked if he could see a real psychiatrist. The judge agreed to do so and this time the psychiatrist state that among other things he was suffering from “major depression” and listed the severity in several areas which were above what it took to. and he got the disability.
I personally know what this guy has gone through and can see why he is suffering from major depression. Now a person driving by might see him doing light work such as mowing his yard or picking up trash in the yard and think he looks fine. However if one put him into a regular job with regular hours he would never be able to do it. So you can’t always tell just by looking.
So is Medicaid.
So is Federal employment. With the highest percentage in D.C.
It allows them to also keep their Medicare coverage which for many disabled due to chronic health issues is a must. The worker may work once a week and develop a pressure sore and be out three months but they would be considered employed right?
My wife is disabled and has been for 27 years this Labor Day. Her disability is highly obvious as she is quad. I have been on disability 18 years and no it was not easy to get my claim approved even with two of their examiners saying I could never hold a job again. If my neighbor saw me and didn't know me yea they might say I was able to hold a job. That is the key here being able to medically or mentally hold employment. Mentally I can't but I do not have a mental illness. I have severe Vestibular {Inner Ear} and sensory processing issues. I can function within my home and tolerate some shopping etc. I am also my wife's sole caregiver. If certain sensory stresses are around me I can go into what I call a brain fog. I also will seizure in my upper torso. But I look as healthy as can be.
Another person may be disabled and even have license plates for handicapped parking. That person might walk out of the vehicle and look OK. They may also have serious heart related issues like my cousin does.
Most persons are not on SSDI or Social Security Disability Insurance but rather SSI which the qualifications are much lower and some who applied for SSDI will draw it till disability is determined or even afterward if they have minor kids. As for me? I drew SSI at first. When my disability was approved {second try no lawyer} I had to pay back all previous SSI payments before I saw my SSDI check. I draw a little over $800 a month. My wife a little over $600 a month.
Would I go back to work again if I could? Yea I like money LOL. But what I have though not life threatening is also not curable and somewhat limited in treatment effectiveness. It's a condition I was born with and lived with. I even passed my Navy and Army physicals and did a 4yr active Navy and a year Army NG stint.. But at age 37 the condition became disabling in a matter of a few short months. There is a lot more to what qualifies as a disability than a person simply being able to get up and move around.
I’m not worried about a neighbor mowing his yard. I want to know whether or not my neighbor has been deemed mentally unstable.
when you HAVE to do something, surprising how you can get it done....
hey, offer me a nice SS check early because I have severe osteo and degenerative disc disease, and I'd run with it....but I need to keep working to pay bills...
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