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A tea party battle cry
Daily Caller ^ | 07/01/2012 | Yates Walker

Posted on 07/02/2012 3:55:58 PM PDT by SovereignVA

Some pundits are drawing comparisons between our current political climate and that of America just before the civil war. They’re wrong.

This isn’t 1859. It’s 1775.

A government is a reflection of its people. At the founding, Americans saw freedom as a birthright. To protect that freedom, they designed an accountable government tethered by negative rights and constrained by competing powers. For the past century, Americans have been surrendering, little by little, their freedom for a little promised comfort. A century from now, the emergence of the tea party movement will be seen as one of two things: the death throes of liberty or the moment when Americans began to remember who they were.

If Obamacare is implemented in a second Obama administration, America will never recover. Once an entitlement is granted, it’s impossible to take away. By 2016, the word “repeal” will be considered politically toxic. Some insufferable moderate Republican of the future will label our current insufferable moderates as “right-wing.” Somehow the new normal is always to the left of where we were yesterday.

So what happens?

Two American versions of socialized medicine already exist. We can take a peek into our future by looking at the Veterans Administration and Indian reservations. Despite wonderful, faithful volunteers, the VA is forever undermanned and underfunded. Soldiers get worse waiting in long lines for essential surgery and treatment. Every few years, Americans are horrified by stories revealing how poorly we treat our vets. As for our Native American friends, they have a saying on the reservation that encapsulates their dilemma: Don’t get sick after June.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; cwiiping; election; obamacare

1 posted on 07/02/2012 3:56:09 PM PDT by SovereignVA
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To: SovereignVA
When a rat swears to support and defend the Constitution, he lies.

When a pubbie swears to support and defend the Constitution, he doesn't mean it.

2 posted on 07/02/2012 4:02:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (A republic no more.)
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To: SovereignVA

In some ways, it’s July 16, 1936 and we’re in Madrid.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 4:03:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: SovereignVA
Once an entitlement is granted, it’s impossible to take away.

The statement is untrue. However, that's not necessarily the best of news. If an entitlement bankrupts a country or an empire, it takes itself away.

4 posted on 07/02/2012 4:17:54 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SovereignVA

IMHO -
The question is whether July 4th 2012 is our last Independence Day or our second one ?


5 posted on 07/02/2012 4:21:06 PM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: SovereignVA
PROPERTY OF GEARY GRAPHIC AND DESIGN
6 posted on 07/02/2012 4:28:49 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: SamuraiScot

I was just thinking the same thing. European countries are crying “uncle” as we speak because they can no longer fund their socialized system. Whether it’s an internal collapse of the system, bankruptcy of a country, or gets “removed”, eventually the system is no more. We’ll see if the many states opting out of this monster can kill it early or if it will take a revolution to do so. Praying it can remain bloodless, but that remains to be seen.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 4:32:19 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: SovereignVA

8 posted on 07/02/2012 4:36:35 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SovereignVA; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
1859 or 1775? It'll be CW2 either way.

I think that Roberts' decision will be seen as similar to the enabling acts in Germany. Roberts' decision is, in effect, the

Enabling Tyranny Act.

CW2 Ping


9 posted on 07/02/2012 4:36:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SovereignVA

I never thought I’d be looking at the end, but here it is.....


10 posted on 07/02/2012 4:40:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about Berlin 1932 or Moscow 1916 ?

Pick your tyranny!


11 posted on 07/02/2012 4:44:26 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In some ways, it’s July 16, 1936 and we’re in Madrid.

Agreed. Who's going to be Franco?

12 posted on 07/02/2012 4:44:57 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Tzimisce
I never thought I’d be looking at the end, but here it is.....

A lot of people are looking at what is going on as "business as usual", as they ignore the gathering storm.

This may or may not be the "end", but nonetheless, one can see it clearly now from this point in history and it is a lot closer today than it was at this time last week.

There was a book I read and chuckled about many years ago titled Will the Soviet Union Survive Until 1984 (by Andrei Amalrik). It seemed a pretty impossible theory when I read it back in the 1970s. The USSR was riding high in those years and if anything, we were the ones who might not survive until 1984. Nobody is laughing now at Amalrik's thesis, and they weren't any more in 1991, either.

There is a sobering history lesson therein. We would be well advised to heed those rumbles of thunder on the horizon.

13 posted on 07/02/2012 5:03:00 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama says, I can be anything I want to be as long as you chumps dream your dreams-Mark Steyn)
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To: baddog 219

I like it except for what looks like a tomahawk. I don’t see a connection.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 5:08:43 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: SamuraiScot

I dunno, but I think I know who’ll be the communists who rape & kill nuns and abscond with the nation’s gold.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 5:11:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Travis McGee
UP!!!

16 posted on 07/02/2012 5:18:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ecomcon
"I like it except for what looks like a tomahawk. I don’t see a connection."

In December of 1773 the participants of the Boston Tea Party dressed as American Indians.

17 posted on 07/02/2012 5:25:46 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: ecomcon
they were dressed as Indians when they dumped the tea...
18 posted on 07/02/2012 5:26:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee

The RNC had better hammer this until the elections. If this continues much further the people have nothing left to lose.

1. INCOME: The federal government has claimed the right to take 100% of our incomes through the income tax.

2. PROPERTY: The federal government has claimed it can take our properties through eminent domain to sell for government profit. (Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005)

3. MONEY/WEALTH: The federal government has claimed it can take whatever we have left in our pockets as a tax with this latest decision.

Therefore: You can earn nothing, possess nothing, and have nothing if the federal government calls it a tax.

What’s left to do but dissolve the federal government?


19 posted on 07/02/2012 5:34:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: SovereignVA

I am the newest Freeper in that I am now registered for approximately 10 minutes, but I have an observation that I think might qualify as “from the mouth of babes” wisdom.

It is obvious that posters on FR are very familiar with the problems with Obamacare and the dangers that it poses, but I am not so sure that the rest of the electorate is up to speed. We are going to need a conservative leader who can lead the charge for repeal. Mitt Romney, as the author of Romneycare- the Obamacare prototype- is the only Republican alive who has no credibility on this issue. He is a weak candidate in many ways but very weak on this issue, which has become a primary issue in the upcoming election.

Given that the GOP Convention has not yet been held, and Romney is particularly exposed on this issue (and recent events have demonstrated weakness on immigration as well), should we not rally a challenge to Romney at the Convention?

I suggest that we have a rapid, on-line convention to choose a candidate. Palin seems obvious. (I have noticed a softening of some toward Palin and where she was once seen as a punchline, everytime I see her recently, she is being asked for her opinion as a seasoned politician and pundit.) Take the name to the floor (Palin or other if anyone has suggestions) and challenge the candidate on the floor of the convention.

If Romney survives the challenge, fine, hold noses and vote for him, and let the chips lie where they may, just as we had all intended. But shouldn’t we give this a go? The convention is not for several weeks. This might work.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Travis McGee; Chode
- Obama Care
- DOE Loan Guarantees
- Operation Fast & Furious
- Executive Ordered Amnesty

The Intolerable Acts of 2012.

21 posted on 07/02/2012 6:47:18 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Travis McGee

Bingo.

Roberts’ move equates to the Enabling Act of 1933 in Germany.

MUST READ: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

It is of course not exactly the same thing, but a more obtuse route to the same ends: the executive is given broad powers by the legislature, and whatever powers he exercises without being granted face few challenges. ObamaCare contains a proliferation of “the Executive shall fill in this blank” with few practical restrictions.

Good catch. The line has been crossed. Reichstag fire and Krystalnacht are not far behind.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 6:59:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In some ways, it’s July 16, 1936 and we’re in Madrid.”

I agree. The social and political analogs are many.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 7:00:06 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: JLLH

I have said many times that the United States on its present course will eventually go the way of the Soviet Union, and for similar reasons. Bankrupt, illegitimate and ossified, the central government will one day find itself ignored, disdained, and out of business.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 7:03:44 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: ecomcon; baddog 219

“I like it except for what looks like a tomahawk. I don’t see a connection.”

The participants at the original Boston Tea Party were dressed as:

1. Pilgrims?

2. Agent Smith?

3. Wild Indians?

I think the tomahawk is awesome. It was a common side arm during the revolution, harks back to the original tea party, and symbolizes heartfelt defiance. Much better than the swishy ribbons or surrealistic sphincters favored by some candidates.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 7:11:05 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: DTogo
damn right...
26 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: CodeToad

Therefore: You can earn nothing, possess nothing, and have nothing if the federal government calls it a tax.

What’s left to do but dissolve the federal government?

***********************

Your analysis is correct, but there are a lot of very slow learners among those who are paying attention. Most are not paying attention.

The fake fight between the Democrat Left and the Republican Right is a diversion from what is really going on, the vertical aggression from the top down. People will figure it out, but the election show is meant to divert the gullible, and is still largely effective.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 7:14:56 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: Psalm 144

It makes me deeply sad to think you may well be right and we are headed down that road full speed, but history has shown us that when tyrants burden the middle class and poor with increasing regulations and taxes and takes everything they have so they themselves can live “well” and place themselves above the law it never ends well for the former. Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from the Mummy movie - “You know, nasty little fellows such as yourself always get their comeuppance.”


28 posted on 07/02/2012 7:16:36 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Travis McGee

One thing that can’t be denied, Roberts put the ball squarely in our court. We now have two choices fifgt or die without fighting.Anybody with one eye and half sense know what their plans for us, along with our children are. The question that we only can answer is, What are we going to do?


29 posted on 07/02/2012 7:29:56 PM PDT by sport
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To: ecomcon
The tomahawk was the tool that the patriots used to break open the Kings tea so that they could throw it overboard.
The British feared the tomahawk because it was a symbol of rebellion among the colonists
30 posted on 07/02/2012 8:22:50 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: SamuraiScot

A Franco or Benito Mussolini or Juan and Evita Peron are waiting in the wings even now. If the system breaks they will come out in front and lead the nation out of its problems. Think of Fascism as a terrible but potent medicine, its bitter but it works and saves the nation and her core beliefs. They only last as long as their leader and then evolve back to more democratic systems. But, like a bad medicine, Fascism has bad side effects. A leader will come forward with a plan—it might be a Newspaperman like Mussolini, or an actress like Evita, or a general—but they always come. It might be someone like Glen Beck.


31 posted on 07/02/2012 10:36:43 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: rem_mitchell
...should we not rally a challenge to Romney at the Convention?

We ABSOLUTELY should rally a challenge to Romney at the convention! At such an historically critical time as this, he is the worst possible choice we could have for a nominee.

I suggest that we have a rapid, on-line convention to choose a candidate. Palin seems obvious.

I concur 100%. I'll dispense with the superlatives, and simply say that she is by far, the very best we have, and should be our nominee without question. Compare her last CPAC speech to Romney's and the differences in quality between those two couldn't be more obvious. She would rally the center-right like no other could possibly do, and keep us motivated to stand and demand that our government shift back to its original scope and purpose.

32 posted on 07/02/2012 11:34:12 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The response to this ruling is just what was needed. A cause to rally around and wall to wall coverage. Romney’s plan in Masss. strips him of the crebibility needed to fight this program and lots of footage of Obama saying “this is not a tax” will cause him problems. Another candidate could walk in and take over the GOP convention in late August. The coverage from that alone will be three to four weeks of free publicity and would act as momentum- that would bring contributions and volunteers.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 5:18:23 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: CodeToad
Thx! I quoted you on my about page, since I had to trim it after the Roberts betrayal.
34 posted on 07/03/2012 7:03:08 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: no-s

I honored. I just wish those weren’t the facts.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 7:18:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Travis McGee

” I think that Roberts’ decision will be seen as similar to the enabling acts in Germany. Roberts’ decision is, in effect, the

Enabling Tyranny Act.”

That is EXACTLY what the hell it is!


36 posted on 07/03/2012 10:55:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee
1859 or 1775? It'll be CW2 either way.

More like 1918.

37 posted on 07/03/2012 11:51:57 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: SamuraiScot
Once an entitlement is granted, it’s impossible to take away.

The statement is untrue. However, that's not necessarily the best of news. If an entitlement bankrupts a country or an empire, it takes itself away.

So if the entitlee is deceased, the entitlement is thereby moot and invalid? Well, THERE'S your solution....

38 posted on 07/03/2012 11:53:37 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Travis McGee

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want, merely because you think it would be good for him.

Robert A. Heinlein


39 posted on 07/03/2012 11:57:24 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Psalm 144; Squantos; Travis McGee
I think the tomahawk is awesome. It was a common side arm during the revolution, harks back to the original tea party, and symbolizes heartfelt defiance. Much better than the swishy ribbons or surrealistic sphincters favored by some candidates.

Awesome, indeed, and effective. But pricy!


40 posted on 07/03/2012 12:01:06 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Psalm 144
I think the tomahawk is awesome. It was a common side arm during the revolution, harks back to the original tea party, and symbolizes heartfelt defiance. Much better than the swishy ribbons or surrealistic sphincters favored by some candidates.

Patch of the U.S. XIX Corps of WWII, not a present unit of the US Army AFAIK, and thereby, the patch would seem to be an item that should again be seen on the sleeves and hats of patriotic fighting Americans.


41 posted on 07/03/2012 12:07:27 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Chode
they were dressed as Indians when they dumped the tea...

Hey, wait a minute...Indiana/IU backers wear red coats...oh.

You said Indians, not Indianians. Nevermind.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 12:11:12 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy
So if the entitlee is deceased, the entitlement is thereby moot and invalid? Well, THERE'S your solution....

Yah think that's why the Rainbow Fascists were a little touchy when Sarah P. used the expression "Death Panels"?

43 posted on 07/03/2012 12:14:11 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: archy
hot damn...
44 posted on 07/03/2012 2:43:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: archy

I carried a Randall 14 during my EOD career..... Lot of money for a poor enlisted troop but it was a lot of knife. Used an abused it serves me well to this day. Still holds a razor edge. On my 8th replacement sheath. Should be the last I need as we’re both near retirement. ..... just going to hunt and fish .... :o)


45 posted on 07/03/2012 5:41:00 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; Chode
I carried a Randall 14 during my EOD career..... Lot of money for a poor enlisted troop but it was a lot of knife.

As did the young parachute rigger and reserve packer whose talents I preferred, who later became a battalion intel NCOIC, then company First Shirt. He too favoured the Randall *Attack* 14, which I believe was also the pattern used as the starting point for Randall's *Astronaut* knives.

I've always preferred the Gurkha kukri or khukuri for about the same weight penalty meself, though I sometimes hedged my bets with a Fairbairn commando knife. Back in the days, Randall offered a pretty good deal on Fairbairns, which I mostly picked up from former serving Brits who liked trading for US GI carbine bayonets. But Randall offered Fairbairn sheaths for something like $4.95 each, which I jumped on. Anyone who tells you there's only two things wrong with the Fairbairn, the handle and the blade, has never had to live with that lousy Brit issue scabbard for the things.

Used an abused it serves me well to this day. Still holds a razor edge. On my 8th replacement sheath.

The sharper the knife, the more they tear up sheaths. Sawback edges are the worst.

Should be the last I need as we’re both near retirement. ..... just going to hunt and fish .... :o)

Yeah. Me too. I hope.

Unless, of course, Travis is right.

46 posted on 07/06/2012 5:56:39 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: SovereignVA
“Half our citizens now receive some form of government assistance. “ ( from the article)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

85 % of our nation's children attend socialist-entitlement, compulsory, and single-payer **SCHOOLS*** ( mis-named ‘Puplic” schools).

Children who attend socialist-entitlement schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialism and government compulsion. Gee! If the voting mob can give the child tuition-free schooling and teach him it is his **right**, then why not use the voting mob to get LOTS of “free” stuff?

All it took to produce a Franklin D. Roosevelt was one to three generations of voters indoctrinated in socialism in our nation's modern socialist K-12 school system.

47 posted on 07/06/2012 6:05:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: archy
my current knife is a PumaTAC1, it was standard German Army issue, don't know now...

48 posted on 07/06/2012 2:43:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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